***** Official 2022 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Yeah LOL, we aren't used to noise and full stadiums, c'mon
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I'm glad this wasn't a night game, I'm pumped.
mwm
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They went on a 14-0 run and gained what? 3 games? And they lost the ground they had gained in 3 days.
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Mathguy64 said:

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I'm going to keep saying this all day.

Dusty you ****ing idiot.


True but the schedule coming out of the break is the root cause


No. That idiots decision to not give Martinez a second inning last night is the only reason for this mess.
All that did was make Maton not available today, right?

Am I forgetting any other consequences?




It cost him Maton, Stanek and Neris.
Oh, so you're one of those armchair managers who KNOWS that Martinez could have gone three innings without any issues.

Impossible to argue with your fantasies.
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I'm honestly not one for s*** talking but since everyone wants to make us the villains of the MLB I am LOVING talking trash to teams we beat. Mostly because I know how much it chaps their ass
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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Mathguy64 said:

Dumbass Dusty specifically said ij his after game presser that he'll didn't use Martinez for a second inning last night because he needed him available today.

Dusty? Yo Dusty. Earth to Dusty. You there?
JV went 7 and he wasn't needed.

Is that really so hard to understand?
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We separating contenders from pretenders.

Maybe Abreu learned something today: Dial it back to 98% so you can keep it in the zone. I hope so. He's got electric stuff.
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It's probably LMJ. It's been pretty salty since he's been hurt
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Hey...Seattle has a new streak going!!
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Dusty speaks truth

That was balls out by JV who is a god among mere mortals
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This is the mariners fan who proclaimed this their world series. Moral victory much?
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FrioAg 00
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Bro, if this was the World Series you just got swept
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Blackbeard94 said:

Yeah LOL, we aren't used to noise and full stadiums, c'mon


The guy that tweeted that was saying that the mariners' stadium staff wasn't used to handling a full house and rowdy fans
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FredMc92 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Dumbass Dusty specifically said ij his after game presser that he'll didn't use Martinez for a second inning last night because he needed him available today.

Dusty? Yo Dusty. Earth to Dusty. You there?
JV went 7 and he wasn't needed.

Is that really so hard to understand?


Martinez routinely goes more than 1 IP. Multiple times he's gone more than 2. He threw an easy 12 pitches in the 7th last night in a 5-1 game. Taking the 8th was a No brainer. Instead Dusty wiped out Maton, Stanek and Neris making them 100% unavailable. And it forced him to use Parker Mushinski in a 3-1 game in the 8th. Yes Parker got out of it on 4 pitches. But that doesn't excuse the dumbass move last night.

To top it off when he was asked about it last night he trotted out that lame excuse that he was saving Martinez for today. And where was he? Not pitching in favor of Parker.

He got away with it. That didn't make it right.
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07ag said:

Blackbeard94 said:

Yeah LOL, we aren't used to noise and full stadiums, c'mon


The guy that tweeted that was saying that the mariners' stadium staff wasn't used to handling a full house and rowdy fans


Sorry brother, beer does not help my already poor reading comprehension
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100% right.

And the starter is not always going to go 7, and the worst pitcher in the bullpen is not always going to have a four pitch inning. Matter of fact, typically neither of those is going to be the case.

I think you can enjoy another great JV performance and enjoy this great season so far and the golden era we are in while still acknowledging that Dusty sucks and his mismanagement of the bullpen is going to cost us.
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mwm
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What chrisgiustio is feeling isn't "world series". It's indigestion.
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mwm said:

They went on a 14-0 run and gained what? 3 games? And they lost the ground they had gained in 3 days.
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Kate's old man is a pretty good pitcher
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$10 says Servais tries to light a fire tomorrow and start a fight.
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Mathguy64 said:

$10 says Servais tries to light a fire tomorrow and start a fight.


$10 more says if he pulls something tomorrow MLB won't do anything to discipline him.
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Mathguy64 said:

FredMc92 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Dumbass Dusty specifically said ij his after game presser that he'll didn't use Martinez for a second inning last night because he needed him available today.

Dusty? Yo Dusty. Earth to Dusty. You there?
JV went 7 and he wasn't needed.

Is that really so hard to understand?


Martinez routinely goes more than 1 IP. Multiple times he's gone more than 2. He threw an easy 12 pitches in the 7th last night in a 5-1 game. Taking the 8th was a No brainer. Instead Dusty wiped out Maton, Stanek and Neris making them 100% unavailable. And it forced him to use Parker Mushinski in a 3-1 game in the 8th. Yes Parker got out of it on 4 pitches. But that doesn't excuse the dumbass move last night.

To top it off when he was asked about it last night he trotted out that lame excuse that he was saving Martinez for today. And where was he? Not pitching in favor of Parker.

He got away with it. That didn't make it right.
And how many times has Martinez gone 2+ innings in a meaningful game? I like Seth and he's been great in just about all of the games he's pitched in, but to just say "he goes out a second ( any maybe third? ) inning and everything is perfect" is ridiculous, It's a fantasy, Maybe he only gets one out in the eighth as well and the exact same situation occurs. You really have no idea.

Also, who is pitching the ninth in your fantasy? Because wouldn't Stanek or Neris be wiped out anyway? You don't get to keep both for today, even in your fantasy.

The truth is is that it was MATON that wiped out Stanek. He failed at his job. I wish we could say never pitch Maton again, but he's on the roster and will be used ( and overused ).

The OBVIOUS issue is that we had a double-header Thursday where both starting pitchers only went 5 innings, a pitcher had to pitch in both of them ( Montero ) and another was on paternity leave. That's going to leave the bullpen EXTREMELY thin for these last two games and absolutely none of those things was Dusty's fault.

But you want to stand on the table and scream like a child for 24 hours because Dusty used his bullpen differently than you would ( and Maton failed )

Ok, you do you. Just keep posting the Dusty-hate and getting your 10 likes.

I'll just sit back and enjoy the two wins and be happy.

( For the record, I would have thrown Martinez out for the eighth as well. I just understand that there is more than one way to manage a game or SERIES of games AND I can't simply say Martinez would have gotten through the 8th cleanly. Impossible to know )



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EastCoastAgNc said:


This is the mariners fan who proclaimed this their world series. Moral victory much?


What a chode
BadAggie
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Lol Seattle fan getting excited about July games
Frok
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I was excited about these particular July games, I pass no judgment on them. They should have been excited, their team was on a roll.
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gougler08 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


This is the mariners fan who proclaimed this their world series. Moral victory much?


What a chode
Fulfilled...that's the last adjective I would use to describe that dork.
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They should have been excited, their team WAS on a roll.

"only one thing is important!"
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Harry Dunne said:

100% right.

And the starter is not always going to go 7, and the worst pitcher in the bullpen is not always going to have a four pitch inning. Matter of fact, typically neither of those is going to be the case.

I think you can enjoy another great JV performance and enjoy this great season so far and the golden era we are in while still acknowledging that Dusty sucks and his mismanagement of the bullpen is going to cost us.
My word, I've never agreed more with anything you've ever said.
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I've never seen Dusty make any boneheaded moves in the playoffs where it truly counts.

You gotta use all your guys through the regular reason. We're a few games shy from the number 1 record in baseball. I'm going to cut him some slack and not overreact to anything that may seem head scratching on the surface over a few regular season games.
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FrioAg 00 said:

Lol, imagine being Seattle 3 days ago.

14 game winning streak, and visions of the Yankees taking 2 in the double header and then sweeping us at home. In their mind they were knocking on the door to cutting our lead to a super manageable number by tomorrow.

Whoops. And you still have to face Framber tomorrow.
Imagine being the poster(s) on here before the All Star break that were talking about the Mariners closing to within 5 of the Astros. They seem to be very quiet at the moment.
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JB!98 said:

FrioAg 00 said:

Lol, imagine being Seattle 3 days ago.

14 game winning streak, and visions of the Yankees taking 2 in the double header and then sweeping us at home. In their mind they were knocking on the door to cutting our lead to a super manageable number by tomorrow.

Whoops. And you still have to face Framber tomorrow.
Imagine being the poster(s) on here before the All Star break that were talking about the Mariners closing to within 5 of the Astros. They seem to be very quiet at the moment.


I have been anything but quiet.

I'll stand by what I said. We finished the first half losing 2 of 3 to the worst team in baseball and not hitting well at all. Seattle had won 14 straight and was hotter than hell. The lead was 9 and we had a DH with NYY and horrible travel to open it up with. Lose that DH and we are 8 back and staring at the Mariners right in the face. We are 12 up and it easily could have gone the other way.

That was what was so frustrating about what Dusty did last night. He destroyed his pen when he didn't have to and boxed himself in. He gave JV no room to maneuver and gave himself no options today.

We all sit back and ***** about lineups and goofy choices for using guys to PH. But last night and today were bad mistakes. Mistakes that managers paid the kind of money he's paid shouldnt be making.
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