Right, but I'm saying starting from the ball already having been misplayed in outfield and the catcher has the ball with 2 runners way off base. Now, what if there are 2 outs? Do you still just run them all back, or do you take a shot at running one of them down before the scoring position runner tries for home, in which case you can try to get him into a rundown?

With two outs yes, but it was only 1 out.

So I run them all back and live to fight another day....that play alone shows you a run down and throw home has a high probability of not working and being a bad throw so not worth the risk

Apparently ESPN 97.5/92.5 is hurting for content because they are currently airing play by play of a Space Cowboys game

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Oh my

This may the dumbest possible ending to a baseball game and I needed the laugh badly pic.twitter.com/WebnQaeYl6

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What's the proper play there once the catcher notices a runner on 3rd and the runner behind him going to 3rd?

Throw to 3rd (not over his head), guy on 3rd runs down the runner between 2nd and 3rd knowing he may have to throw to home if the guy on 3rd goes for it?

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Catching the ball in the outfield...
Making a good throw to home...
Running the runner back, any throw there possibly allows third base to advance so you just run them all back and live to play again

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Just watch Soto (#65) the pitcher. His body language is great.

Not sure if they forced Pallilo out but I haven't listened to them since I found out. LZ is nice, but I prefer his podcast.

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"I think the sustainability is there, I think this is real and I think the Mariners are the best team in the AL West."

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Blood is in the water. Somebody needs to remind them that the division (and league) still runs through Houston.

Speaking of Space Cowboys, David Hensley might be a name to watch if we need an infielder to bring up at some point.

He's hitting .300 with a .909 OPS. 3-4 today with a single, double and HR. Also walked 3 times yesterday.

He's got the best offense numbers on the team right now.

Let them keep hating.

Not exactly

Your catcher throwing from SS position to the pitcher covering home is not a routine play especially with the game on the line.

It's not a play I'd be willing to bet on being successful.

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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With two outs yes, but it was only 1 out.

So I run them all back and live to fight another day....that play alone shows you a run down and throw home has a high probability of not working and being a bad throw so not worth the risk

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This is an MLB team. When the opposing team makes that bad of a baserunning mistake, they need to be able to get an out there without the run scoring. These are basic throws that MLB players have to be able to trust themselves to make

And to me, 1 out means you are more aggressive to get that out. If you have a great chance to get the 2nd out instead of leaving the tying run on 3rd with 1 out, you take it.

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Agree with this. Pitcher is covering home and you have an infielder already at second with a bad baserunner stuck between third and second. Run at third to force the runner to the bag and then make the throw to second to tag that runner. I doubt the runner at third would risk the tying run being thrown out at home trying to score, but if he did you should have plenty of time to beat him home with a throw from second base.

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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With two outs yes, but it was only 1 out.

So I run them all back and live to fight another day....that play alone shows you a run down and throw home has a high probability of not working and being a bad throw so not worth the risk

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This is an MLB team. When the opposing team makes that bad of a baserunning mistake, they need to be able to get an out there without the run scoring. These are basic throws that MLB players have to be able to trust themselves to make

And to me, 1 out means you are more aggressive to get that out. If you have a great chance to get the 2nd out instead of leaving the tying run on 3rd with 1 out, you take it.

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And yet these very same Major leaguers just had a trash throw to home followed by a t balers attempt to throw to third base...

Not to mention that you are leaving out the weakest link, you would now be forcing a play at the plate on a diving/sliding player at home by a relief pitcher. There is no win here.

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With two outs yes, but it was only 1 out.

So I run them all back and live to fight another day....that play alone shows you a run down and throw home has a high probability of not working and being a bad throw so not worth the risk

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This is an MLB team. When the opposing team makes that bad of a baserunning mistake, they need to be able to get an out there without the run scoring. These are basic throws that MLB players have to be able to trust themselves to make

And to me, 1 out means you are more aggressive to get that out. If you have a great chance to get the 2nd out instead of leaving the tying run on 3rd with 1 out, you take it.

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Agree with this. Pitcher is covering home and you have an infielder already at second with a bad baserunner stuck between third and second. Run at third to force the runner to the bag and then make the throw to second to tag that runner. I doubt the runner at third would risk the tying run being thrown out at home trying to score, but if he did you should have plenty of time to beat him home with a throw from second base.

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A pitcher covering the plate...enough said. And a RP or closer who I guarantee practice scenarios the least.

I just remember my dad teaching me in LL that the worst thing that should happen for the defense in a run-down scenario is that the runners end up back where they came from. Anything worse than that and you chose poorly and/or executed wrong on defense. Knowing the situation and what is on the line is paramount. I do think running at the guy hung up between 2nd and 3rd is the right play other than just eating the ball and letting everyone return. Make him commit to either trying to get back to 2nd or gifting you an out by stopping cold or going to third where you can tag whichever runner doesn't have the right to the bag.

Firing to either 2nd or 3rd from home is just asking for bad things to happen, plus it gets the runners more time to react since the throws are so much longer. Close the distance on foot and force them to make a decision.

Benches are clearing here at Busch Stadium, and there is some real intent. Both bullpens rushing in after Yoan López throws high and tight to Nolan Arenado. Things are still getting sorted out on the field.

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Benches clear in St Louis

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I just remember my dad teaching me in LL that the worst thing that should happen for the defense in a run-down scenario is that the runners end up back where they came from. Anything worse than that and you chose poorly and/or executed wrong on defense. Knowing the situation and what is on the line is paramount. I do think running at the guy hung up between 2nd and 3rd is the right play other than just eating the ball and letting everyone return. Make him commit to either trying to get back to 2nd or gifting you an out by stopping cold or going to third where you can tag whichever runner doesn't have the right to the bag.

Firing to either 2nd or 3rd from home is just asking for bad things to happen, plus it gets the runners more time to react since the throws are so much longer. Close the distance on foot and force them to make a decision.

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My worst case scenario in going at the stranded runner is he retreats slowly to second, drawing the catcher further out, at which point the runner on third who im sure is slowly extending off the bag breaks for home....now leaving your catcher to pivot, make an accurate throw to the closer covering home who now has to actually catch the ball but also make a tag play on a sliding runner.

A throw here now also allows the stranded runner to advance to third, a bad throw and he scores. a good thro and they still have a runner at third with 2 outs now. Its just not worth the risk to me.

This also leaves out the potential for the pitcher to act like a new born giraffe and get injured trying to make a play at the plate.

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"Benches are clearing and there is some real intent"

lol. Baseball bench clearing "brawls" are the lamest thing in sports. Lets all huddle in a big circle, chest bump each other, talk about kicking each others asses, then wait for someone to pull us apart.

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The bullpen pitchers running in is the funniest. Hey guys, let's all run across the field so hopefully we can get there just in time to be pulled apart and have to come back to the bullpen.

Hit a homer? Straight to the bench.

At least we added 2 more lefties to the lineup with JJ and Castro when facing a righty.

Matijevic makes first start pic.twitter.com/W84Az6M7HN

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Just remember, 33 games in 34 days.

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Dustied

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Yep.

5. Diaz
6. Matijevic

8. Castro
9. Siri

Oooooof.

Brown has 26 strikeouts and 10 walks in 18 innings this year. https://t.co/ScKPKMWemW

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) April 27, 2022

His time might be coming soon. Gotta figure out his walk problem first though

Shawn Dubin is hitting 98/99 in his starts too. Our pitching dev is right there with Cleveland. Crazy how many potential starters we have close to MLB.

You're not wrong but they did actually go to the ground here.

That's way more than what typically happens.

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You're not wrong but they did actually go to the ground here.

That's way more than what typically happens.

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Yeah, that's what was so funny to me. The "real intent" was two people wrestling each other to the ground like I did with my brother when I was 7.

Looks like Tuck has figured things out and is getting in sync!!!

Benched.......