Harry Dunne said:

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I'm not a fan of Dusty as a tactician, but he's not the reason we lost the World Series. But the fact is he got us there and I don't think we were the best team in the American League, so he exceeded expectations.

We lost the World Series because we got nearly nothing out of our starting pitching and our bats went cold. we do need more starting pitching, but that's a Click issue. It's easy to point the blame at the hitting coach, but that same hitting coach oversaw leading the league in runs scored. Our approach in the World Series was not good, but you also have to give credit to the Braves pitching. Last night there were a lot of pitches in the heart of the zone that we just didn't capitalize on. That's not on the hitting coach.

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rak1693 said:

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I don't think any of our pitchers can be counted on to take over the #1 spot. LMJ is too injury prone and the other guys are your #3 - #5 guys. We're going to need that #1 guy. I'd like to go after Robbie Ray or Stroman. We already have one lefty in Framber but should we try for another in Robbie Ray?

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I think calling those guys 3 to 5 guys is selling them extremely short. I would bet a lot of money that at least one of the three ends up becoming a staff ace

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Teddy Perkins said:

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On Correa, it's known that Correa wants a long term deal (10 years) and the Astros have said in the past that they don't do long term deals. But Crane also said that can change, which may just be fan lip service or it could have teeth. We'll see.

Here's where Correa's head is at.

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The two sides had talks about an extension last spring, with the Astros reportedly floating offers of six years/$120MM and five years/$125MM. Even at the time, however, Correa had a dim view of how serious the Astros were, saying "there were not really any negotiations," and that the Astros "made it clear to me they don't believe in long contracts, they don't believe in big contracts."

Houston owner Jim Crane said that he feels his team still has "a chance" to retain Correa, and that the Astros will "definitely be in the mix" with the shortstop's other suitors. The Astros haven't signed a contract longer than five years during Crane's tenure, and while the owner indicated that "things can change" on that front, Correa seems to have his eye on a much longer commitment.

"A lot of people don't believe in 10-year contracts and in long-term deals and all that. But when you look at most of the 10-year contracts they've been giving out, the long-term deals, they're players that are 31, 30, 32," the shortstop noted. "I'm going to be 27 on my first year. I'm young, I'm healthy, and I perform. So we'll see what happens."

While it remains to be seen just how high the bidding will get, Correa stressed that "I want to win. Money's great and everything, but I don't want to be miserable in the clubhouse, losing every day."

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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/10/carlos-correa-discusses-free-agency.html

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1876er said:

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Correa is going to want what Tatis, Lindor, and Machado got. The Astros are going to offer what they gave Altuve.

He gone.

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Wabs said:

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So is Bregman going to be our SS moving forward or is there someone else in the pipeline?

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Farmer1906 said:

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Bobby Jimbo said:

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Between Greinke, Verlander, and (probably) Correa, that will free up nearly $80 million. Anyone else excited to see what James Click can do with that?

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Just because it frees it up doesn't mean Crane is going to let Click spend it all. I am not calling Crane cheap, but if the tax threshold is lowered and Crane/Click wants to keep some flexibility moving forward then maybe we only spend $30-40 M. It would be disappointing, but I don't think it is an unrealistic possibility.

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Thinice said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Bobby Jimbo said:

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Between Greinke, Verlander, and (probably) Correa, that will free up nearly $80 million. Anyone else excited to see what James Click can do with that?

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Just because it frees it up doesn't mean Crane is going to let Click spend it all. I am not calling Crane cheap, but if the tax threshold is lowered and Crane/Click wants to keep some flexibility moving forward then maybe we only spend $30-40 M. It would be disappointing, but I don't think it is an unrealistic possibility.

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Is that much money really freed up? Isn't some of Grienke's huge contract deferred over the next few years?

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Farmer1906 said:

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I promise if the Astros and Yankees both offer Correa 12/350 M, he's signing with Houston. If the Astros offer 8/250 and the Yankees offer 12/350, he's going to NY. It's not that complicated. He's not going to take some discount to stay and anyone that thinks he should should have their head checked.

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Ag_07 said:

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Can the Yankees offer more than the Astros with Judge due for his payday?

I'd look for DET, MIA, and SD to all be players for Correa.

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Big Johnson Ag said:

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He's not going to SD. They have Tatis Jr and Machado

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MAROON said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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I promise if the Astros and Yankees both offer Correa 12/350 M, he's signing with Houston. If the Astros offer 8/250 and the Yankees offer 12/350, he's going to NY. It's not that complicated. He's not going to take some discount to stay and anyone that thinks he should should have their head checked.

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Not sure why you are replying to me on this? I've made it known on this board all season that he is gone. The Astros are not offering him a 12 year deal. I doubt they would offer an 8 year deal. Of course he is taking the best deal - and it ain't coming from Houston, nor should it

Teams that offer those kind of deals are the NY teams and the LA teams. No one else is that stupid.

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NTAS said:

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will someone start the offseason thread already?????

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