We all know how the debate turned out last year. It will turn out the same way this year too.
***Official Houston Astros 2021 Season Thread***
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tjack16 said:Ag_07 said:
But at the end of day pretty expected stats don't win games and the only thing that really matters is on field production.
Yep. All that matters in the end are actual results
These "Actual stats" don't mean **** either.
It's just about how many runs you score and runs you give up.
Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Ag_07 said:
But at the end of day pretty expected stats don't win games and the only thing that really matters is on field production.
Yep. All that matters in the end are actual results
These "Actual stats" don't mean **** either.
It's just about how many runs you score and runs you give up.
True... but typically getting on base and getting hits = more runs scored.
No one is winning arbitration cases and signing lucrative deals based in expected stats.
The stats that matter are the ones that show actual production.
The stats that matter are the ones that show actual production.
Deluxe said:
We all know how the debate turned out last year. It will turn out the same way this year too.
Getting hot for six weeks doesn't make for an end to debate. The preponderance of evidence thus far is not good.
tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Ag_07 said:
But at the end of day pretty expected stats don't win games and the only thing that really matters is on field production.
Yep. All that matters in the end are actual results
These "Actual stats" don't mean **** either.
It's just about how many runs you score and runs you give up.
True... but typically getting on base and getting hits = more runs scored.
He almost had a point there.
Expected stats are just quality of contact plus walks and Ks. If y'all are trying to argue that that doesn't translate to more runs then y'all do you. I'll keep doing me.
With Eloy, Robert and Engel all out with injuries, #WhiteSox GM Rick Hahn will “explore” trades for outfield help.
— Scot Gregor (@scotgregor) May 3, 2021
What can we get for Straw?
Where's Harry at?
been wondering if the #astros would be better served by benching myles straw for this very reason. move tucker to CF & play brantley & aledmys díaz, who’s quietly been solid, in the corners. HOU pitching has a decent enough K% to justify the move. KT wouldn’t be bad in CF either. https://t.co/ppoMvUC3Xi
— Dan (@Dan_Martin4) May 3, 2021
I'll be watching on ATTSW
ESPN will do a May 4 Star Wars broadcast for Astros-Yankees, which will have costumed commentators and be their main game feed https://t.co/ShWkZnwiDr pic.twitter.com/Csw8wQ27yj
— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) May 4, 2021
Gig’em Aggies!
Farmer1906 said:
Where's Harry at?been wondering if the #astros would be better served by benching myles straw for this very reason. move tucker to CF & play brantley & aledmys díaz, who’s quietly been solid, in the corners. HOU pitching has a decent enough K% to justify the move. KT wouldn’t be bad in CF either. https://t.co/ppoMvUC3Xi
— Dan (@Dan_Martin4) May 3, 2021
Gearing up for these boys to make the Yankees their ***** tomorrow night!
Deluxe... try to keep it in your pants
i’m only being slightly hyperbolic when i say luis garcía could be the #astros’ next ace, because he is really talented.
— Dan (@Dan_Martin4) May 3, 2021
he’s also taking tangible steps forward developmentally in a year where he was again supposed to pitch in the minors. https://t.co/xVqEkXNmqu
Ag_07 said:
No one is winning arbitration cases and signing lucrative deals based in expected stats.
The stats that matter are the ones that show actual production.
yup pic.twitter.com/MPBU5xFJgo
— Céspedes Family BBQ (@CespedesBBQ) May 4, 2021
So Pujols played 3rd base tonight when Rendon got hurt again
So Rendon is injured, I think Ohtani is day to day, and Trout seems to find his way on the IL often...
Angels unlucky or what?
Angels unlucky or what?
Farmer1906 said:
Deluxe... try to keep it in your pants
Who me? Big start coming up tomorrow for Lu-ace Garcia.
No, they get exactly what they deserve.redline248 said:
So Rendon is injured, I think Ohtani is day to day, and Trout seems to find his way on the IL often...
Angels unlucky or what?
Lots of seats available for the game tonight. What happened to everyone wanting to boo the cheaters? Are they still hiding in their apartments in NYC?
Farmer1906 said:
Lots of seats available for the game tonight. What happened to everyone wanting to boo the cheaters? Are they still hiding in their apartments in NYC?
I'm thankful Minute Maid doesn't have these protocols. Seems like a hassle to go to the game
**** that *****tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:
Lots of seats available for the game tonight. What happened to everyone wanting to boo the cheaters? Are they still hiding in their apartments in NYC?
I'm thankful Minute Maid doesn't have these protocols. Seems like a hassle to go to the game
I love Star Wars more than anything else in the world of entertainment, but this sounds horrific.
ESPN's Major League Baseball coverage for the week ahead will feature several highlights, including the Star Wars-themed telecast on Tuesday, May 4, when the New York Yankees host the Houston Astros at 7:30 p.m. ET. The Star Wars-themed telecast is in celebration of "May the fourth" and will feature ESPN commentators dressed in full costume as Star Wars characters, plus custom on-screen animations. Karl Ravech, dressed as Luke Skywalker, will provide commentary with analysts Tim Kurkjian (as Yoda) and Eduardo Perez (as a Jawa). Marly Rivera will report from Yankee Stadium.
Kurkjian and ESPN commentator and resident Star Wars expert Clinton Yates will share MLB names with Star Wars ties, and Kurkjian will highlight his favorite FORCE plays of all-time. Host Steve Levy (dressed as Darth Vader) will anchor studio highlights during the game.
Coverage continues on Wednesday, May 5, when the first place, defending World Series Champion Los Angeles Dodgers visit the Chicago Cubs at 7 p.m. Ravech will provide commentary with Olympic Gold Medalist and trailblazing ESPN MLB analyst Jessica Mendoza. The telecast will be subject to blackout restrictions in the Los Angeles market.
ESPN's Major League Baseball coverage for the week ahead will feature several highlights, including the Star Wars-themed telecast on Tuesday, May 4, when the New York Yankees host the Houston Astros at 7:30 p.m. ET. The Star Wars-themed telecast is in celebration of "May the fourth" and will feature ESPN commentators dressed in full costume as Star Wars characters, plus custom on-screen animations. Karl Ravech, dressed as Luke Skywalker, will provide commentary with analysts Tim Kurkjian (as Yoda) and Eduardo Perez (as a Jawa). Marly Rivera will report from Yankee Stadium.
Kurkjian and ESPN commentator and resident Star Wars expert Clinton Yates will share MLB names with Star Wars ties, and Kurkjian will highlight his favorite FORCE plays of all-time. Host Steve Levy (dressed as Darth Vader) will anchor studio highlights during the game.
Coverage continues on Wednesday, May 5, when the first place, defending World Series Champion Los Angeles Dodgers visit the Chicago Cubs at 7 p.m. Ravech will provide commentary with Olympic Gold Medalist and trailblazing ESPN MLB analyst Jessica Mendoza. The telecast will be subject to blackout restrictions in the Los Angeles market.
As a ****ing jawa? Why??????
NY writer on 97.5 is saying roids weren't bad because other teams were on roids too. Astros were one sided. No one else was doing it. He gives Altuve credit for the walk off but doesn't know if he wore a buzzer. It was a bad slider and now Chapman has a better pitch to get outs vs righties.
I may vomit.
I may vomit.
Very easy solution to that. Stop listening.Farmer1906 said:
NY writer on 97.5 is saying roids weren't bad because other teams were on roids too. Astros were one sided. No one else was doing it. He gives Altuve credit for the walk off but doesn't know if he wore a buzzer. It was a bad slider and now Chapman has a better pitch to get outs vs righties.
I may vomit.
Fat Bib Fortuna said:
I love Star Wars more than anything else in the world of entertainment, but this sounds horrific.
ESPN's Major League Baseball coverage for the week ahead will feature several highlights, including the Star Wars-themed telecast on Tuesday, May 4, when the New York Yankees host the Houston Astros at 7:30 p.m. ET. The Star Wars-themed telecast is in celebration of "May the fourth" and will feature ESPN commentators dressed in full costume as Star Wars characters, plus custom on-screen animations. Karl Ravech, dressed as Luke Skywalker, will provide commentary with analysts Tim Kurkjian (as Yoda) and Eduardo Perez (as a Jawa). Marly Rivera will report from Yankee Stadium.
Kurkjian and ESPN commentator and resident Star Wars expert Clinton Yates will share MLB names with Star Wars ties, and Kurkjian will highlight his favorite FORCE plays of all-time. Host Steve Levy (dressed as Darth Vader) will anchor studio highlights during the game.
Coverage continues on Wednesday, May 5, when the first place, defending World Series Champion Los Angeles Dodgers visit the Chicago Cubs at 7 p.m. Ravech will provide commentary with Olympic Gold Medalist and trailblazing ESPN MLB analyst Jessica Mendoza. The telecast will be subject to blackout restrictions in the Los Angeles market.
This kind of idiocy is what happens when Disney takes over the world buying ESPN and Star Wars.
Most cheating is ok. Cheating perpetrated by the team that dominates the coastal elite teams in October is the worst thing ever.Farmer1906 said:
NY writer on 97.5 is saying roids weren't bad because other teams were on roids too. Astros were one sided. No one else was doing it. He gives Altuve credit for the walk off but doesn't know if he wore a buzzer. It was a bad slider and now Chapman has a better pitch to get outs vs righties.
I may vomit.
EastCoastAgNc said:Very easy solution to that. Stop listening.Farmer1906 said:
NY writer on 97.5 is saying roids weren't bad because other teams were on roids too. Astros were one sided. No one else was doing it. He gives Altuve credit for the walk off but doesn't know if he wore a buzzer. It was a bad slider and now Chapman has a better pitch to get outs vs righties.
I may vomit.
It's entertaining. You don't like to hear opposing viewpoints?
I would hope they would have challenged him with the Red Sox and quotes from other players saying more teams were doing similar things. Then challenged him as to why the MLB decided to not investigate those teams.Farmer1906 said:
NY writer on 97.5 is saying roids weren't bad because other teams were on roids too. Astros were one sided. No one else was doing it. He gives Altuve credit for the walk off but doesn't know if he wore a buzzer. It was a bad slider and now Chapman has a better pitch to get outs vs righties.
I may vomit.
But, I didn't listen, so I'm just guessing that they didn't.
Nah. This was one of Charlie's buddies.
Unfortunate, but I understand.Farmer1906 said:
Nah. This was one of Charlie's buddies.
Beat40 said:I would hope they would have challenged him with the Red Sox and quotes from other players saying more teams were doing similar things. Then challenged him as to why the MLB decided to not investigate those teams.Farmer1906 said:
NY writer on 97.5 is saying roids weren't bad because other teams were on roids too. Astros were one sided. No one else was doing it. He gives Altuve credit for the walk off but doesn't know if he wore a buzzer. It was a bad slider and now Chapman has a better pitch to get outs vs righties.
I may vomit.
But, I didn't listen, so I'm just guessing that they didn't.
That's the most frustrating thing about the whole "scandal." The Astros were simply doing what every other damn team in MLB was doing. They were all using tech to steal signs and relay them in real time. The players all know this and a handful have talked about it being an open secret that every team was doing it. Even after the commissioner's letter. But the Astros were the only team truly punished by it while the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Cubs, Braves, and Nats were all credibly accused by multiple teams/players and yet were never investigated in-depth or had the results covered up.
I was referring to the vomit comment. I don't mind opposing viewpoints from intelligent people.Farmer1906 said:EastCoastAgNc said:Very easy solution to that. Stop listening.Farmer1906 said:
NY writer on 97.5 is saying roids weren't bad because other teams were on roids too. Astros were one sided. No one else was doing it. He gives Altuve credit for the walk off but doesn't know if he wore a buzzer. It was a bad slider and now Chapman has a better pitch to get outs vs righties.
I may vomit.
It's entertaining. You don't like to hear opposing viewpoints?
Domingo German Scouting Report
-Throws a ton of curves. It's his best pitch this year. Gets lost of people chasing.
-Four Seamer has a ton of spin but isn't effective. He leaves it in the heart of the zone too much. It gets destroyed. Mostly throws it to lefties. Throws the sinker as his fastball vs righties.
-Change up has some nasty drop. Another effective pitch he gets people to chase. Was his highest valued pitch in 2019 even though he only threw in ~17% of the time.
-His strikeouts and walks are both down so we see plenty of ball in play tonight.
-TOR & TB touched him up (2 HR EA) in his first 2 starts. He's looked better in his last 2 vs CLE & BAL.
-Throws a ton of curves. It's his best pitch this year. Gets lost of people chasing.
-Four Seamer has a ton of spin but isn't effective. He leaves it in the heart of the zone too much. It gets destroyed. Mostly throws it to lefties. Throws the sinker as his fastball vs righties.
-Change up has some nasty drop. Another effective pitch he gets people to chase. Was his highest valued pitch in 2019 even though he only threw in ~17% of the time.
-His strikeouts and walks are both down so we see plenty of ball in play tonight.
-TOR & TB touched him up (2 HR EA) in his first 2 starts. He's looked better in his last 2 vs CLE & BAL.
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