*****Official Houston Astros 2020-2021 Offseason Thread*****

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Biggio was a subpar CFer. If Altuve ever moves anywhere it's be LF after Brantley leaves. Even then I doubt it. This was Jeff 4 years ago.
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I find it hard to believe Luhnow passed on the idea due to clubhouse perception.

He seemed like the guy that ran things by the numbers and if the numbers dictated a move then so be it.
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He loved his quantitative data, but he was one of the pioneers of using qualitative data in conjunction with it. It explained it fairly well in Astroball.
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I can see that stats say he moves laterally poorly. He attempts and misses lots of balls to his left and when doing so struggles with the throw mechanically at times.
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Only a risk if he isn't comfortable playing somewhere else next year.
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Farmer1906 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:


So if he is just looking at those metrics then we can take $300mm off the table for him. He's not at Lindor's level at almost all of those.


You sure about that?

Career fWAR, rWAR, OPS, wRC+
Player A - 19.4, 26.2, .833, 127
Player B - 29.2, .28.8, 833, 118
The real question is whose overall calculation of value is most accurate? If you take rWAR they are close. If you take fWAR or WARP (26 vs 16 for Correa) Lindor is vastly superior. The differences are primarily in what each calculation uses for running and defense. Given how much we shift, I could see defense being difficult to calculate for Carlos and some metrics may under calculate his performance (such as his range compared to other SS based on being in a traditional SS location).

Between the injuries and the discrepancies of the calculations above, I can see how this is just a challenging situation. It's a scenario where letting the market set the value makes sense, at least for Carlos. For the Astros, I don't think they can let another star walk away. Well, they can, you just have to question when you've been chipped away at so much that you're no longer a realistic competitor.
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I feel like there are 2 things Lindor has better than Carlos.

1. Stay on the field (see the advantage in WAR)
2. Is more consistent. Higher lows and lower highs. This isn't always a good thing. Correa has more standard divination in his results.

Today's line up.



Same basic line up we've seen. No CC today.
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Could be injured by 15 year olds dad
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Straw is in the 8 hole. No Correa
Farmer1906
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He's got a function so he's playing with the b team today.

Typed Straw. Meant Correa.
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Holding out hope that a function is code for signing his next contract.
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People think Luke Voit could be hurt.



Edit: Voit has a torn meniscus and will have surgery
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Sorry to burst your bubble
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Eh...Chandler doesn't know shlt
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Hope he's not hurt...
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Well...crap.
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Farmer1906 said:

Biggio was a subpar CFer. If Altuve ever moves anywhere it's be LF after Brantley leaves. Even then I doubt it. This was Jeff 4 years ago.
Biggio was a subpar CF at age 37 when he started playing CF. It's rare enough for a guy who has played center his whole career to still be there when he's 37.

He would have been solid at the very least if he had switched over earlier in his career when he could still move.

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bearkatag15 said:



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Castro has started the past few days...I hope it's not Maldy.

Edit...not Maldy.

TarponChaser
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Holding players out due to contact tracing has got to be the dumbest, most absurd, least necessary protocol I can think of.
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mwm
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...the guy in the Sox dugout signalling "safe". Not once but twice. Idiot x 2.
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So what do we think the plan is for Javier this year?

See how he does in the rotation and leave him there if serviceable?

Or do we think he could end up back in the pen?
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We're going to need tons of starters this year. But if everyone is healthy, he gets the boot when Framber & Jake get back. He'd be long relief.
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Is our entire roster not vaccinated yet?
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k20dub said:

Is our entire roster not vaccinated yet?


Getting vaccinated doesn't benefit anyone

The rules are the same even if the non existent risks are gone as well
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k20dub said:

Is our entire roster not vaccinated yet?

Click said last week they would get it on the first homestand.
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Farmer1906
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Yordan's power is so easy. I love it.
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This play is nuts
cap-n-jack
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So what happened? I didn't see anyone tagged out or anyone score.
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Spring training bad run down. All 9 players in red were at one point on the infield.
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cap-n-jack said:

So what happened? I didn't see anyone tagged out or anyone score.
The clip is all I've seen, but looks like all runners were safe. Or that runner on third could have gotten the a-rod cheater treatment if he intentionally knocked the ball out
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