redline248 said:
So, if the Astros had called him up a year earlier he would have hit free agency last year? So he would have just signed a big deal and bailed on Houston a year early?
MAROON said:from what I've been told it really doesn't matter what the Astros offer (unless it was just stupid money). Springer is not signing with Houston. It's not a money issue - there are other things at work here.Farmer1906 said:
I've seen some wild numbers thrown out for George. At 31 in this market, I have a feeling it's going to be on the low side. So low that a lot on here will be upset we wouldn't pay it. I hope I am wrong for his sake.
Yep. Exactly right. And fans need to understand, George probably loves his teammates and may love the city And probably lives the fans, too. Hell, he won a WS here. But it's a job. They don't view franchises in the same lens they view fans or the city.Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:
So, if the Astros had called him up a year earlier he would have hit free agency last year? So he would have just signed a big deal and bailed on Houston a year early?
George just finished his 7th season at 31 years old. He's made 37 M. This year he may get another 100-125 M for the next 4-5 years. If he plays after that it'll be much smaller deals. He may end up making 175 M in his career. Maybe.
If the Astros bring George up in at 23 or even at the start of the 2014 season. He could have hit the market at 29 or 30. If he he hits the market at 29 with 37 M in the bank (what he has now) he'd be much more likely to get Something like 7 year 200 M.
The Astros savvy move to bringing him up slowly probably cost George a good 50 M, maybe more.
Yup. It's also likely he would leave in free agency anyway....just a year earlier.Ag_07 said:
And while yes it costs George lots of cash it was the right move for the organization.
No use in calling him up and wasting controllable years to play on crappy teams. It created the longest window of George paired with Altuve, Correa, Bregman, etc
They caught flack for it just like the Aiken deal and just like the Aiken deal it was the right decision for the franchise. It'll suck losing George regardless of why but if that's why then so be it.
Buck Compton said:Yep. Exactly right. And fans need to understand, George probably loves his teammates and may love the city And probably lives the fans, too. Hell, he won a WS here. But it's a job. They don't view franchises in the same lens they view fans or the city.Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:
So, if the Astros had called him up a year earlier he would have hit free agency last year? So he would have just signed a big deal and bailed on Houston a year early?
George just finished his 7th season at 31 years old. He's made 37 M. This year he may get another 100-125 M for the next 4-5 years. If he plays after that it'll be much smaller deals. He may end up making 175 M in his career. Maybe.
If the Astros bring George up in at 23 or even at the start of the 2014 season. He could have hit the market at 29 or 30. If he he hits the market at 29 with 37 M in the bank (what he has now) he'd be much more likely to get Something like 7 year 200 M.
The Astros savvy move to bringing him up slowly probably cost George a good 50 M, maybe more.
It'd be no different than loving your co-workers and loving your clients/customers, but hating your management and the company that delayed promoting you, then gives excuses why they can't give you that raise, etc all the while just milking you for every ounce of productivity you have in you. I see it all the time.
Especially if you're nowhere near family. Sometimes it's just time to move on, even if the raise isn't that big. It's still just a job for him.
Lonestar_Ag09 said:Buck Compton said:Yep. Exactly right. And fans need to understand, George probably loves his teammates and may love the city And probably lives the fans, too. Hell, he won a WS here. But it's a job. They don't view franchises in the same lens they view fans or the city.Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:
So, if the Astros had called him up a year earlier he would have hit free agency last year? So he would have just signed a big deal and bailed on Houston a year early?
George just finished his 7th season at 31 years old. He's made 37 M. This year he may get another 100-125 M for the next 4-5 years. If he plays after that it'll be much smaller deals. He may end up making 175 M in his career. Maybe.
If the Astros bring George up in at 23 or even at the start of the 2014 season. He could have hit the market at 29 or 30. If he he hits the market at 29 with 37 M in the bank (what he has now) he'd be much more likely to get Something like 7 year 200 M.
The Astros savvy move to bringing him up slowly probably cost George a good 50 M, maybe more.
It'd be no different than loving your co-workers and loving your clients/customers, but hating your management and the company that delayed promoting you, then gives excuses why they can't give you that raise, etc all the while just milking you for every ounce of productivity you have in you. I see it all the time.
Especially if you're nowhere near family. Sometimes it's just time to move on, even if the raise isn't that big. It's still just a job for him.
My counter to this and it may be overblown I don't know. But George could have also been brought up earlier, or a person as a young businessman and because he was younger, less experience etc could have flopped. Could have dramatically hurt his own stock causing him to be sent back down and slowing the progression even further. This setback could have totally messed up his potentiometer and he never made it to this current state of being paid 100mill
Farmer1906 said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:Buck Compton said:Yep. Exactly right. And fans need to understand, George probably loves his teammates and may love the city And probably lives the fans, too. Hell, he won a WS here. But it's a job. They don't view franchises in the same lens they view fans or the city.Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:
So, if the Astros had called him up a year earlier he would have hit free agency last year? So he would have just signed a big deal and bailed on Houston a year early?
George just finished his 7th season at 31 years old. He's made 37 M. This year he may get another 100-125 M for the next 4-5 years. If he plays after that it'll be much smaller deals. He may end up making 175 M in his career. Maybe.
If the Astros bring George up in at 23 or even at the start of the 2014 season. He could have hit the market at 29 or 30. If he he hits the market at 29 with 37 M in the bank (what he has now) he'd be much more likely to get Something like 7 year 200 M.
The Astros savvy move to bringing him up slowly probably cost George a good 50 M, maybe more.
It'd be no different than loving your co-workers and loving your clients/customers, but hating your management and the company that delayed promoting you, then gives excuses why they can't give you that raise, etc all the while just milking you for every ounce of productivity you have in you. I see it all the time.
Especially if you're nowhere near family. Sometimes it's just time to move on, even if the raise isn't that big. It's still just a job for him.
My counter to this and it may be overblown I don't know. But George could have also been brought up earlier, or a person as a young businessman and because he was younger, less experience etc could have flopped. Could have dramatically hurt his own stock causing him to be sent back down and slowing the progression even further. This setback could have totally messed up his potentiometer and he never made it to this current state of being paid 100mill
While it's possible, it's also possible he improves sooner, plays his best at 27, wins an MVP and then makes 300 M.
He's 31 and has made $40M, not including endorsements.CoachRTM said:
Honestly, I really feel for George and hope he gets the payday he deserves.
He got team-controlled to where he doesn't hit FA until 31, and now COVID takes away all the disposable cash from teams the year he finally makes it to his payday.
Buck Compton said:Yep. Exactly right. And fans need to understand, George probably loves his teammates and may love the city And probably lives the fans, too. Hell, he won a WS here. But it's a job. They don't view franchises in the same lens they view fans or the city.Farmer1906 said:redline248 said:
So, if the Astros had called him up a year earlier he would have hit free agency last year? So he would have just signed a big deal and bailed on Houston a year early?
George just finished his 7th season at 31 years old. He's made 37 M. This year he may get another 100-125 M for the next 4-5 years. If he plays after that it'll be much smaller deals. He may end up making 175 M in his career. Maybe.
If the Astros bring George up in at 23 or even at the start of the 2014 season. He could have hit the market at 29 or 30. If he he hits the market at 29 with 37 M in the bank (what he has now) he'd be much more likely to get Something like 7 year 200 M.
The Astros savvy move to bringing him up slowly probably cost George a good 50 M, maybe more.
It'd be no different than loving your co-workers and loving your clients/customers, but hating your management and the company that delayed promoting you, then gives excuses why they can't give you that raise, etc all the while just milking you for every ounce of productivity you have in you. I see it all the time.
Especially if you're nowhere near family. Sometimes it's just time to move on, even if the raise isn't that big. It's still just a job for him.
third coast.. said:i got laid off when oil crashed, got in to a job where im doing well and then covid struck and it killed the industry i was just about to break in to, and now i may never make it(would be a life changine job switch in a great way), but i boo hoo, life sucks. The difference is he has millions and millions of dollars and im just a regular middle class family man. Im not complainging either, because without life events i wouldnt be where i am at right now, which is raising an amzing family and doing what i set out to do when i started college. Will never feel sorry for these guys not getting the unbelievably massive pay daywhile millions of americans are losing their livelihoods right now and have much worse situations than a guy who might get a contract for 100 million vs 150 mill. again, boo ****ing hoo.CoachRTM said:
Honestly, I really feel for George and hope he gets the payday he deserves.
He got team-controlled to where he doesn't hit FA until 31, and now COVID takes away all the disposable cash from teams the year he finally makes it to his payday.
AustinCountyAg said:
Jim crane giving the big middle finger to the Ryan family. I
