*****Official Houston Astros 2020-2021 Offseason Thread*****

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bearkatag15 said:

Farmer1906 said:

I think Dusty found a line up he likes.


I'm not a fan of the catcher hitting between Straw and Altuve. Straw might pass Maldy/Castro on the bases
Well, that's why you put him in front of the them.
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redline248 said:

bearkatag15 said:

Farmer1906 said:

I think Dusty found a line up he likes.


I'm not a fan of the catcher hitting between Straw and Altuve. Straw might pass Maldy/Castro on the bases
Well, that's why you put him in front of the them.


Maybe he thinks Straw will lap him?

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This is such a true statement for most of y'all on here.
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redline248 said:

bearkatag15 said:

Farmer1906 said:

I think Dusty found a line up he likes.


I'm not a fan of the catcher hitting between Straw and Altuve. Straw might pass Maldy/Castro on the bases
Well, that's why you put him in front of the them.
damnit I'm an idiot. either way you get my point.
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Don't forget that Yuli hits like Babe Ruth in his prime when he and Yordan are next to eachother in the order
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Yordan at 6. We could easily get 40 HR and 100 plus RBI out of the 6 hole. That's semi erotic.
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bearkatag15 said:

Farmer1906 said:

I think Dusty found a line up he likes.


I'm not a fan of the catcher hitting between Straw and Altuve. Straw might pass Maldy/Castro on the bases


I like it. I'd rather have the catcher hitting after Straw than before. Think Straw walks or singles, then steals second. The catcher gets a hit, Straw scores.

Altuve isn't as fast as he used to be, and he doesn't steal that many bases. This is the better option than trapping Straw behind a slow baserunner.
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Farmer1906 said:



This is such a true statement for most of y'all on here.
Not this guy!
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Farmer1906 said:



This is such a true statement for most of y'all on here.


I never understood the Correa slander that went on from 2017-2019

He was so instrumental in that title run and is responsible for a lot of great Astros moments from 2015-present
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Game is on AT&T tonight, starts in less than an hour.
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Here

But to be fair he's taken a HUGE step since 2019.

He's stepped up big last year in his leadership which is what I wanted to see. I was never worried about his on field talent.

He spoke out vehemently about the sign stealing crap and backed it up on the field. His entire mindset and persona changed following all that mess and he put the team on the back.

I'll never forget him stepping in and getting on Framber when that stupid brush up was going on. That's what you wanna see from a $200+m dollar player.

Happy to eat this crow
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Good post Ag_07
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Farmer1906 said:



This is such a true statement for most of y'all on here.
I know everyone is on the Carlos bandwagon after the playoffs and he has won me over with his development as a leader, but I'm still on the "made of glass" side.

He's fluctuated between great and just OK. We attribute that to playing with injury and that might be the case, but nonetheless he's either great, just OK because he's playing with an injury...Or flat out injured.

Carlos is a better overall player for reasons we all know and don't need to get into, but just food for thought and perspective: he has the same exact career OPS and SLG (and injury issues) as Trae Turner. Like all of you, I hope he wins the MVP this year, but I also understand why you can't offer more than that to a guy who has only ever stayed healthy one full (real) season of major league baseball.
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If I'm the guy making a case to spend on Carlos, the first thing I'm doing is giving Crane a list of all the SS we've had before him.
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I'll happily eat Correa Crow. He was injured so much before that you had to question his durability and at the price he wanted IMHO he wasn't worth it. Last year his on and off field stature changed for me. I still question his long term durability.
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Mathguy64 said:

I'll happily eat Correa Crow. He was injured so much before that you had to question his durability and at the price he wanted IMHO he wasn't worth it. Last year his on and off field stature changed for me. I still question his long term durability.

Agreed. "Know the facts or STFU" made me a fan forever. Glad he stood up for his guys at a time when team management wouldn't even do that.
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Maybe we should send that masseuse of Correa's to Watson's house. He wouldn't turn it down, and it would help secure some higher draft picks!
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Urquidy has a pet pig. Not sure what else to say about that...
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Urkeeding dealing
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Urkeedy doing Urkeedy things

Just sittin back cruising
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Correa calling his shot on Urquidy having a big year... at least, I think that's what he said.
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To me you are paying Correa for what he does in October. I'm 100% okay with him playing 90-100 games in regular season as long as he is in Carlos playoff mode in October.

His October production the last 4 years makes him worth every penny
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tjack16 said:

To me you are paying Correa for what he does in October. I'm 100% okay with him playing 90-100 games in regular season as long as he is in Carlos playoff mode in October.

His October production the last 4 years makes him worth every penny

I don't have a Correa jersey for some reason... lock him up so I can get Mrs. Marvin and myself a couple!
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Marvin said:

tjack16 said:

To me you are paying Correa for what he does in October. I'm 100% okay with him playing 90-100 games in regular season as long as he is in Carlos playoff mode in October.

His October production the last 4 years makes him worth every penny

I don't have a Correa jersey for some reason... lock him up so I can get Mrs. Marvin and myself a couple!


He was my first jersey after we changed to the new ones. Got it when he was called up in 2015. I'd like to keep wearing it next year too
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tjack16 said:

To me you are paying Correa for what he does in October. I'm 100% okay with him playing 90-100 games in regular season as long as he is in Carlos playoff mode in October.

His October production the last 4 years makes him worth every penny
Like I said, Correa has won me over and I hope he wins the MVP and gets a long and lucrative deal.

Don't hate me for saying this, but in the 2018 & 2019 postseasons he hit a combined .206 with a .711 OPS.

Obviously let's not forget he was brilliant in 2017 & 2020 and playing 100 games a season is OK when you're under team control and the rest of the roster is amazing and can make the playoffs without you, but there aren't any more young Correas and Bregmans walking through those doors for a few years and I have a feeling we are going to need the guys making $20M to produce all season long.

I was happy with the offer and I am happy that he believes in himself enough to pass on it. I'm actually glad he passed and like those of you above I'm happy to eat crow and I hope he has a great (full) season and gouges them for more but I want to see him healthy for 162 games and playing well in 150 of them first.
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He gone.
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Don't lose hope, just yet. Now the team has a better idea of where he is, and I'm sure they always expected him to decline that offer. I don't blame them for throwing it out there - and if he's as professional as he has seemed on these matters - then he won't hold it against the team, either.

Having said all that...I, personally, will hold it against the team if they don't make a real offer and go into the offseason taking their chances on other free agents.
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Those numbers don't tell the full story. Any time he came up in a clutch situation, he came through. Off the top of my head in 2019 he had the ALCS walk off, the HR in game 4 that broke it open at yankee stadium, WS game 4 big homerun, and WS game 7 RBI double that at the time put us up 2-0

While the stats in 2019 might not have been amazing, he came through when it mattered.
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To me Correa is different than Cole and Springer. Writing was on the wall with them leaving, and I didnt really blame the front office for it.

This time though he wants to be here and it's doable with the budget
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You're right. All good points.
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WTF? Thought he was doing really good
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