*****Official 2019/2020 Houston Astros offseason thread*****

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Yankees have a god given right to be unanimous now
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I swear y'all have such an odd obsession with the Yankees.
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Ag_07 said:

I swear y'all have such an odd obsession with the Yankees.

They've become our ***** so it's fun to talk about..... Sorry not sorry
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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My thoughts on Jeter and the HOF

Is Jeter a HOF? Easily. He had a hell of a career. The only reason he shouldn't be unanimous is because it's limited to 10 votes and maybe someone want to get someone else in or to stay on the ballot. While Jeter is a HOFer he is also one of the most overrated players and worst defensive SS of all time.
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It's time to get over the "if this guy wasn't unanimous, then this other guy shouldn't be" nonsense.

Voter that didn't vote Jeter is a moron and frankly shouldn't have a vote. Same for those that' didn't vote Griffey.
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BMX Bandit said:

It's time to get over the "if this guy wasn't unanimous, then this other guy shouldn't be" nonsense.

Voter that didn't vote Jeter is a moron and frankly shouldn't have a vote. Same for those that' didn't vote Griffey.



You're entitled to your opinion for sure. But I'll Respectfully disagree. Those guys I mentioned were definitely more or at the very least as deserving of unanimous votes. If they didn't receive it then that's the standard
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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If you sneak in in your 10th year or go in 100% year 1, you're in.

Walker and Jeter had pretty much the same WAR. One played about 50% more games than the other. Bet you can't guess which one needed another 4000 games to keep up.
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Please...Jim...No...Do not hire Dusty. Guaranteed to turn a 100 win team into a 80 win team.
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I feel like part of the reason Bannister wants the job is so he can feel like he stuck it to AJ one last time. I hope we don't hire him either.
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Jim Crane is a poosay. There I said it.
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The right choice is Espada for the year and let the new GM choose after that
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Wikipedia currently lists Dusty as our manager. "Houston Astros (2020 - Present)"

**** the person who wrote that. I wouldn't wish him on anyone other than the Yanks.
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Nah, I kept Astroball
Gig’em Aggies!
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If we don't hire showalter, dusty baker, or banister I'll go back on my words. Otherwise he's just catering to the national mobs. Or an idiot.
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E said:

The right choice is Espada for the year and let the new GM choose after that
Yep. Please don't go Jerrah Jones on this, Crane.
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Crane is the anti-Tillman right now. He'll do whatever the media asks him to do and like it.
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One name I'd like to see interviewed is Tim Bogar.

He managed in our MiLB system where he won manager of the year twice. He's got coaching experience with Boston under Francona, Tampa Bay under Maddon, and most recently Washington under Martinez.

I think he'd make an interesting candidate.
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Crane thinks it's a good idea to ask MSM for forgiveness...never give the group thinkers an inch...stupid stupid stupid
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Great choice
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Crane can GFH if he thinks he's going to tell the players that they have to "apologize" and "ask for forgiveness" , we didn't rob or murder anybody. For f*** sake, grow a spine and start defending your team, or go back to getting the hell outta the way
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crane's famous golfing buddy is starting to make more and more sense
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Farmer1906 said:

one of the most overrated players and worst defensive SS of all time.


Only 5 gold gloves? One of the worst, really?
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Hershey97 said:

Farmer1906 said:

one of the most overrated players and worst defensive SS of all time.


Only 5 gold gloves? One of the worst, really?


Yes, look at the advanced stats. Gold gloves are voted on and a popularity vote. He made some web gems, but had one of the worst ranges for a major league short stop.
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Rafael Palmeiro won a GG while playing like 20 games at 1B
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Gibby is climbing up my list









Hershey97
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Yes, the advanced stats do show he didn't have the best range, especially to his left. This can also be skewed due to the length of time he played. But he led the league in fielding percentage for several years. I agree the gold glove can become a popularity contest, I just find it crazy thinking "one of the worst fielding ss" ever would win 5 gold gloves and receive every vote but 1 to the hall of fame. That sounds a little extreme. I don't care how popular you are, if you're that bad you're not going to get voted for the award.
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Crane will hire Dusty. You might as well go ahead and get behind it. Guy is hungry to win a title and will be so sweet given what's going on with the club.
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I would love to see the comparisons on range at SS between Ozzie Smith and Cal Ripken. Where can I find stuff like that?
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ClickClack said:

Jim Crane is a poosay. There I said it.


He's been neutered apparently
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Nino Brown said:

Crane will hire Dusty. You might as well go ahead and get behind it. Guy is hungry to win a title and will be so sweet given what's going on with the club.
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Hershey97 said:

Farmer1906 said:

one of the most overrated players and worst defensive SS of all time.


Only 5 gold gloves? One of the worst, really?


He was fine in his younger days, but most of those gold gloves are meaningless. His range sucked. His arm sucked. I would have loved to see his IOAA.
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Farmer1906 said:

Hershey97 said:

Farmer1906 said:

one of the most overrated players and worst defensive SS of all time.


Only 5 gold gloves? One of the worst, really?


He was fine in his younger days, but most of those gold gloves are meaningless. His range sucked. His arm sucked. I would have loved to see his IOAA.


I'm sure if the Astros had drafted him and he helped us win a World Series in 98, and 05 then you'd be saying the same thing?
Hershey97
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I'm sure you could just google player's name and range factor (RF). Baseball reference is a great website for that stuff but confuses me sometimes
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Farmer1906 said:

Hershey97 said:

Farmer1906 said:

one of the most overrated players and worst defensive SS of all time.


Only 5 gold gloves? One of the worst, really?


His arm sucked.


That's hilarious
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tjholley16 said:

Farmer1906 said:

Hershey97 said:

Farmer1906 said:

one of the most overrated players and worst defensive SS of all time.


Only 5 gold gloves? One of the worst, really?


He was fine in his younger days, but most of those gold gloves are meaningless. His range sucked. His arm sucked. I would have loved to see his IOAA.


I'm sure if the Astros had drafted him and he helped us win a World Series in 98, and 05 then you'd be saying the same thing?


Yup.

#s don't lie.

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