*****Official Houston Astros Offseason Thread*****

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Astros have reportedly refused to give up Tucker in a trade for Realmuto
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Luhnow flexing on em. He knows they've lost leverage.
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Source? I hope it's accurate
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Dude has less than 300 followers.

I see 20k on Instagram though
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Ag_07 said:

Luhnow flexing on em. He knows they've lost leverage.
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Mr.Bond said:

Source? I hope it's accurate

Was someone on Twitter. Can't remember the name. But he had a blue check.
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Found it

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If we're not offering Tucker but still have the best offer I wonder who is included?
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Ag_07 said:

If we're not offering Tucker but still have the best offer I wonder who is included?


Is there any indication that we do indeed have the best offer?
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Marlins know the Astros/Luhnow will not go above their value so are hoping to finally do a good value trade by getting other teams to overpay. Too bad they did not take same approach when they gifted Stanton to the Yankees.
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titanmaster_race said:

Ag_07 said:

If we're not offering Tucker but still have the best offer I wonder who is included?


Is there any indication that we do indeed have the best offer?


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Yeah I read a report today that said we had the best offer

And there it is
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So we have the best offer on the table while not including Tucker. Makes you realize how ridiculous it is for there even to be discussions about including one of the best prospects in all of baseball for two years of Realmuto.

The Marlins will either have to take market value for him or hold onto him and hope the price goes up during the season. It doesn't sound like any team is willing to meet their demands. Although, all it takes is one.
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iBrad said:

So we have the best offer on the table while not including Tucker. Makes you realize how ridiculous it is for there even to be discussions about including one of the best prospects in all of baseball for two years of Realmuto.

The Marlins will either have to take market value for him or hold onto him and hope the price goes up during the season. It doesn't sound like any team is willing to meet their demands. Although, all it takes is one.

Jeter doesn't know what the hell hes doing. He had a young core of Stanton, Bour, Ozuna, Realmuto and Yelich to build around and he's traded it all away.
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shano0603 said:

iBrad said:

So we have the best offer on the table while not including Tucker. Makes you realize how ridiculous it is for there even to be discussions about including one of the best prospects in all of baseball for two years of Realmuto.

The Marlins will either have to take market value for him or hold onto him and hope the price goes up during the season. It doesn't sound like any team is willing to meet their demands. Although, all it takes is one.

Jeter doesn't know what the hell hes doing. He had a young core of Stanton, Bour, Ozuna, Realmuto and Yelich to build around and he's traded it all away.

No RE2PECT for the Captain
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iBrad said:

So we have the best offer on the table while not including Tucker. Makes you realize how ridiculous it is for there even to be discussions about including one of the best prospects in all of baseball for two years of Realmuto.

The Marlins will either have to take market value for him or hold onto him and hope the price goes up during the season. It doesn't sound like any team is willing to meet their demands. Although, all it takes is one.
I hope one of the pieces isn't Whitley. My guess is that the our best prospect in the trade would be Yordan Alvarez. I could live with that since Seth Beer could be a similar prospect for us.
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Bobby Jimbo said:

iBrad said:

So we have the best offer on the table while not including Tucker. Makes you realize how ridiculous it is for there even to be discussions about including one of the best prospects in all of baseball for two years of Realmuto.

The Marlins will either have to take market value for him or hold onto him and hope the price goes up during the season. It doesn't sound like any team is willing to meet their demands. Although, all it takes is one.
I hope one of the pieces isn't Whitley. My guess is that the our best prospect in the trade would be Yordan Alvarez. I could live with that since Seth Beer could be a similar prospect for us.
Pretty sure they've told teams they aren't trading Whitley for anything.
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Yeah Luhnow has actually come out and said that Whitley isn't going anywhere.
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If the offer included Whitley then Realmuto would have already been announced as an Astro. There is 0 chance Whitley is part of the package. Lunhow values him over any other prospect from what I can tell.
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One thing that's worth noting here is that Chirinos and Realmuto have roughly the same OPS over the past 3 years.
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Deluxe said:

One thing that's worth noting here is that Chirinos and Realmuto have roughly the same OPS over the past 3 years.
Wow that is something... Didn't realize how close they actually are:



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Yep. So the idea of giving super premium value for two years of Realmuto's relative production is kinda silly.
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It also makes all the "Realmuto is the best catcher in the game" talk that's pumped out by the national pundits seem kinda hollow. Maybe he is. But if he is, it's not by much and there's a large group of catchers not too far behind.
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The more I think about Realmuto from this angle, the more I question whether or not we're actually interested in trading for him. It's possible that all the reports are coming from the Marlins side to see if they can get another team to come in and "outbid" the Astros.

I'm a firm no on dealing Whitley or Tucker for Realmuto. And I'd even be tentative about trading any of our next level prospects for him (ie Alvarez, JBB, Corbin, etc). If I'm going to move one of those guys, I'd rather get a ~.900 ops 1B/DH/corner outfielder or a proven starter than a marginal catcher upgrade.

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Interesting how opinions on realmuto are changing.

I still 100% want him. I don't want to give up Tucker or Whitley.

He's good, young, and an instant impact. But i think we'd get just as much impact from Nelly Cruz at DH or something similar.
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Has there been any speculation on what our offer would be for Realmuto? Stassi maybe? Just prospects?
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I imagine they'd want Stassi or Stubbs included in any package.

Maybe that's also an option to include Reddick as well.
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bearkatag15 said:

Deluxe said:

One thing that's worth noting here is that Chirinos and Realmuto have roughly the same OPS over the past 3 years.
Wow that is something... Didn't realize how close they actually are:






Bingo

Been saying it from the beginning
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We included JB in previous rumors about Harper and different guys so I would think it would be built around him.
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All this criticism of Realmuto will instantly turn to praise if we really do trade for him.
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k20dub said:

All this criticism of Realmuto will instantly turn to praise if we really do trade for him.
Depends on who we give up
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You're right but I already praised him. He's good and trending up.
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And IIRC he's much better defensively than Chirinos who's about as good/bad as McCann.
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