*****Official Houston Astros Offseason Thread*****

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1:02a, 12/31/18
Doesn't make a lick of sense to go after Encarnancion when they could have just signed Cruz to a 1 year 15M deal...they are very similar players.

EE is going to require trading prospects and paying him 20M and a 5M opt out the following year...

I'd still go after EE at this point since he's the next best thing after Cruz, but it boggles the mind why they passed on him.
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1:04a, 12/31/18
So if we don't trade any of the top prospects. Don't we have to start playing them regularly to find out what we have and get a return on that value?
"Fort Worth where the West begins...and Dallas is where the East peters out!"
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In reply to Agnzona • 6:43a, 12/31/18
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Tucker, Whitley, Perez, Framber, Martin, & Johnson should all play a role this year. Probably more guys too.
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In reply to AggiEE • 6:56a, 12/31/18
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AggiEE said:
I'd still go after EE at this point since he's the next best thing after Cruz, but it boggles the mind why they passed on him.

I don't think that was the case. They made a competitive offer

I honestly think this was Cruz wanting to play in MIN. Why? I have no clue but there were multiple reports that the Astros were right in it and made a competitive offer.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 9:01a, 12/31/18
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Tucker, Whitley, Perez, Framber, Martin, & Johnson should all play a role this year. Probably more guys too.


If you believe that to be true, that isn't necessarily a good thing IMO
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In reply to AustinCountyAg • 9:04a, 12/31/18
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AustinCountyAg said:
Farmer1906 said:
Tucker, Whitley, Perez, Framber, Martin, & Johnson should all play a role this year. Probably more guys too.


If you believe that to be true, that isn't necessarily a good thing IMO



Dodgers have had Max Muncy and Bellinger come out of nowhere the last two years, we haven't had anything close to that

Maybe we will this year
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9:22a, 12/31/18
true, if you're not going to play them or trade them, boasting about your prospects is pretty pointless
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9:26a, 12/31/18
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In reply to Ag_07 • 10:03a, 12/31/18
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Ag_07 said:
AggiEE said:
I'd still go after EE at this point since he's the next best thing after Cruz, but it boggles the mind why they passed on him.

I don't think that was the case. They made a competitive offer

I honestly think this was Cruz wanting to play in MIN. Why? I have no clue but there multiple reports that the Astros were right it in and made a competitive offer.
I agree. This is not a video game where just because you offer $1 more than other teams that the player will sign. It sounds like Cruz was not a result of the Astros passing on him, but Cruz choosing the Twins.
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12:10p, 12/31/18
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From fangraphs

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/heres-who-will-win-the-next-five-world-series/

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2. Houston Astros
I was prepared to put the Astros behind the Yankees, since the Bombers' financial edge and superior scouting/development make up for the deficit in short-term talent. That said, the Yankees are forced to contend with the Red Sox, which should produce something like a 50/50 split over the next five years between division titles and Wild Card appearances. On the other hand, the Astros don't have a clear, consistent second power in their division. A 90-something-win season is about standard for teams like this, and there's a real chance the Yankees never get to the ALDS with that win total, while the Astros are far more likely to have home-field advantage guaranteed in a playoff series. For that reason alone, the Astros slide just ahead of the Yankees.

The pending free-agent class includes Dallas Keuchel and Charlie Morton, though the top pitching prospect in baseball (Forrest Whitley) is ready to fill in for one of those next year. Marwin Gonzalez is a pending free agent, but his corner-outfield spot is ready to be filled by another top-10 prospect in the game, RF Kyle Tucker. The core is still solid and locked up for long enough that the payroll deficit with the Yankees shouldn't be a huge worry in the short-term, but likely will be toward the end of the five-year window I've defined here.
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12:16p, 12/31/18
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Yankees have a foregone better scouting/development department? Did I read that right?
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In reply to Bulldog73 • 2:37p, 12/31/18
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Bulldog73 said:
Yankees have a foregone better scouting/development department? Did I read that right?


No ****

Laughable
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4:24p, 12/31/18
I joked about 3 weeks ago that the Yankees had 284 roster spots with all of the signings/trades they had made. But, seriously, they'll have to pare down their roster significantly before the season starts. Is there anyone that they might jettison that could be helpful to the Astros in 2019?
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In reply to Ag_07 • 4:37p, 12/31/18
Ag_07 said:
AggiEE said:
I'd still go after EE at this point since he's the next best thing after Cruz, but it boggles the mind why they passed on him.

I don't think that was the case. They made a competitive offer

I honestly think this was Cruz wanting to play in MIN. Why? I have no clue but there were multiple reports that the Astros were right in it and made a competitive offer.


I guess it's possible but I don't know why a free agent on the back end of his career would want to sign with a mediocre team instead of a contender.

I think we had our number (10 or 12M) and we weren't willing to go over that for whatever reason. Money and then winning matters more than anything.
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In reply to Bulldog73 • 8:41a, 1/1/19
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Bulldog73 said:
Yankees have a foregone better scouting/development department? Did I read that right?


Should note that the Yankees have the Marlins organization as part of their talent pool to choose from. Jeter makes them look real good in those trades.
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10:48p, 1/1/19
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http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25664749/yankees-acquire-ss-troy-tulowitzki-bolster-infield

Tulo to the Yanks?
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11:23a, 1/2/19
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Our 2018 season thread was #3 on views for all of Texags in 2018. 1.7MM in total, well done boys!
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In reply to gougler08 • 12:06p, 1/2/19
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gougler08 said:
Our 2018 season thread was #3 on views for all of Texags in 2018. 1.7MM in total, well done boys!
And, just think, that was likely within just 8 months time.
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In reply to gougler08 • 12:14p, 1/2/19
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Our 2018 season thread was #3 on views for all of Texags in 2018. 1.7MM in total, well done boys!
Who beat us!
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In reply to [removed post] • 1:20p, 1/2/19
Lol horn meltdown thread with crazy numbers
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n_touch said:
Lol horn meltdown thread with crazy numbers
Gary had 230k stars in 2018
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1:42p, 1/2/19
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Unfortunately after last night there probably won't be any horn tears for a while.
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3:09p, 1/2/19
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Our 2019 season thread needs to break 2 million.
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3:31p, 1/2/19
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Who will get to start the 2019 season thread?

iVote for iBrad
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4:14p, 1/2/19
How did the 2017 thread fare?
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4:19p, 1/2/19
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/mariners-appear-nearing-deal-free-agent-yusei-kikuchi-rumors.html

Mariners signed Kikuchi.
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In reply to Deluxe • 5:51p, 1/2/19
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Deluxe said:
Who will get to start the 2019 season thread?

iVote for iBrad
Ha. Maybe we should take nominations and set up a google form to vote. That way, there is one guy and we can help prevent against someone jumping the gun.
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iBrad said:
Deluxe said:
Who will get to start the 2019 season thread?

iVote for iBrad
Ha. Maybe we should take nominations and set up a google form to vote. That way, there is one guy and we can help prevent against someone jumping the gun.


Great idea.
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6:03p, 1/2/19
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Whoever it is needs to make sure and not get banned before opening day.
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In reply to iBrad • 6:07p, 1/2/19
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iBrad said:
Deluxe said:
Who will get to start the 2019 season thread?

iVote for iBrad
Ha. Maybe we should take nominations and set up a google form to vote. That way, there is one guy and we can help prevent against someone jumping the gun.

Remember that time someone jumped the gun, started the season thread early, complained that everyone was mad at him, and then we won the World Series?
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6:14p, 1/2/19
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Mazag started the 17 thread and I think most of us were smart enough to yield to him in 18.

Jury is out on whether we stick with him because he won it for us in 17 or switch it up since he didn't get the job done last year.
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In reply to DVC2010 • 6:54p, 1/2/19
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DVC2010 said:
iBrad said:
Deluxe said:
Who will get to start the 2019 season thread?

iVote for iBrad
Ha. Maybe we should take nominations and set up a google form to vote. That way, there is one guy and we can help prevent against someone jumping the gun.

Remember that time someone jumped the gun, started the season thread early, complained that everyone was mad at him, and then we won the World Series?


Callin dshedd
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DVC2010 said:
iBrad said:
Deluxe said:
Who will get to start the 2019 season thread?

iVote for iBrad
Ha. Maybe we should take nominations and set up a google form to vote. That way, there is one guy and we can help prevent against someone jumping the gun.

Remember that time someone jumped the gun, started the season thread early, complained that everyone was mad at him, and then we won the World Series?

Much better than having two season threads, jumping back and forth between them, and missing the playoffs.
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7:43p, 1/2/19
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I nominate bearkat so he can open it up with a nice long bltch and rant about we won't win shlt and we're an awful team and we need to blow it up.

Hey...Worked with Tyler White in 2018
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