Odor is overdue to run into one

What Maz lacks in range he makes up for with his cannon

14 LOB

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Again, how have we not made a change at hitting coach. Young or not we have terrible approaches at the plate and are striking out at a historic level

This approach is full reetard.

Why would you not PH Beltre for IKF in that situation?

Banny is pushing all the right buttons this year.

Nice call on the Beltre pinch hit at the end of the game.... lol

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Just checking in to see if the folks who criticize every Odor AB came to do the same for IKF watching 3 straight strikes to end the first with the bases loaded.

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IKF is evaluated differently because he's a rookie and doesn't have a 50 million dollar contract. Get that non sense out of here.

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So, the Hat Trick was ok, because he is a rookie?!

IKF was born 03/23/95
Odor was born 02/03/94. About 11 months older. Let's call it a year.

Prior to 2017, when Odor would have been the same age going into 2017, as IKF was going into 2018...

Odor had
384 GP
375 Hits
68 Doubles
58 HRs
24 SBs
.264 Batting Avg.
All before IKF sniffed the Bigs.

In their same age season (June 7):
49 GP, .244, 2 HR, 5 SB, 17 RBI, 23 R. - IKF
59 GP, .205, 8 HR, 5 SB, 24 RBI, 26 R - Odor

In the minors... IKF:
463 GP, .276, 5 HR, 51 SB, 9 Triples and 64 Doubles.
Odor:
364 GP, .284, 34 HR, 70 SB, 16 Triples, 88 Doubles.

I like IKF. I think he has great potential... but lets see what happens when Andrus returns. You may find that IKF never achieves anything near what Odor achieved before IKF even made the Bigs. IKF is a "safe" play, but not going to win you a Championship.

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Banny is pushing all the right buttons this year.

Nice call on the Beltre pinch hit at the end of the game.... lol

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And if he didn't PH Beltre, this board would be all up-in-arms that Banny left him on the bench.

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I did my part and pissed Reddick off tonight out in RF

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Details?

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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Banny is pushing all the right buttons this year.

Nice call on the Beltre pinch hit at the end of the game.... lol

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And if he didn't PH Beltre, this board would be all up-in-arms that Banny left him on the bench.

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Could have picked a better spot in the game to pinch hit him.

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etxag18 said:

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I did my part and pissed Reddick off tonight out in RF

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Details?

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Just yelled all kinds of stuff. Told him he was a$$ and was lucky to be hitting .220. He kept turning around and didn't look too happy

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etxag18 said:

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I did my part and pissed Reddick off tonight out in RF

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Details?

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Just yelled all kinds of stuff. Told him he was a$$ and was lucky to be hitting .220. He kept turning around and didn't look too happy

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Hahahah I wish I was nearby. I would've loved it.

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etxag18 said:

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etxag18 said:

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I did my part and pissed Reddick off tonight out in RF

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Details?

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Just yelled all kinds of stuff. Told him he was a$$ and was lucky to be hitting .220. He kept turning around and didn't look too happy

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Hahahah I wish I was nearby. I would've loved it.

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I was in section 44. I moved down from like row 7 to row 1 when it started clearing out. I couldn't get anyone else to join in with me

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etxag18 said:

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etxag18 said:

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I did my part and pissed Reddick off tonight out in RF

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Details?

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Just yelled all kinds of stuff. Told him he was a$$ and was lucky to be hitting .220. He kept turning around and didn't look too happy

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Hahahah I wish I was nearby. I would've loved it.

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I was in section 44. I moved down from like row 7 to row 1 when it started clearing out. I couldn't get anyone else to join in with me

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Were the families with kids glaring at you?

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etxag18 said:

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etxag18 said:

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etxag18 said:

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I did my part and pissed Reddick off tonight out in RF

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Details?

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Just yelled all kinds of stuff. Told him he was a$$ and was lucky to be hitting .220. He kept turning around and didn't look too happy

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Hahahah I wish I was nearby. I would've loved it.

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I was in section 44. I moved down from like row 7 to row 1 when it started clearing out. I couldn't get anyone else to join in with me

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Were the families with kids glaring at you?

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Oh absolutely

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etxag18 said:

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etxag18 said:

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etxag18 said:

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I did my part and pissed Reddick off tonight out in RF

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Details?

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Just yelled all kinds of stuff. Told him he was a$$ and was lucky to be hitting .220. He kept turning around and didn't look too happy

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Hahahah I wish I was nearby. I would've loved it.

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I was in section 44. I moved down from like row 7 to row 1 when it started clearing out. I couldn't get anyone else to join in with me

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Were the families with kids glaring at you?

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Oh absolutely

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Wow. That's so awesome. Congratulations on making an ass of yourself

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Thanks so much!! It really means a lot! Someone needed to let him know how sorry he was

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etxag18 said:

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etxag18 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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etxag18 said:

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I did my part and pissed Reddick off tonight out in RF

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Details?

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Just yelled all kinds of stuff. Told him he was a$$ and was lucky to be hitting .220. He kept turning around and didn't look too happy

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Hahahah I wish I was nearby. I would've loved it.

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I was in section 44. I moved down from like row 7 to row 1 when it started clearing out. I couldn't get anyone else to join in with me

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Were the families with kids glaring at you?

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Oh absolutely

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Wow. That's so awesome. Congratulations on making an ass of yourself

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He pays his price of admission and has a right to heckle the other teams players as long as he's not using racial slurs.

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Just checking in to see if the folks who criticize every Odor AB came to do the same for IKF watching 3 straight strikes to end the first with the bases loaded.

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IKF is evaluated differently because he's a rookie and doesn't have a 50 million dollar contract. Get that non sense out of here.

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He shouldn't be evaluated differently, baseball is baseball. A .300 hitter gets out 70% of the time and managers should put the players that give them the best chance to win on the field. It's just hilarious how people will rush to criticize a bad AB from Rougie and ignore his oppo double off the wall that led to a run while putting IKF on a pedestal as he's hitting ~.230 over the last 4 weeks. IKF has a career .678 OPS in the minors and all the Rougie haters on this thread are treating him like he's Gleyber Torres.

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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Rossko said:

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Just checking in to see if the folks who criticize every Odor AB came to do the same for IKF watching 3 straight strikes to end the first with the bases loaded.

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IKF is evaluated differently because he's a rookie and doesn't have a 50 million dollar contract. Get that non sense out of here.

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He shouldn't be evaluated differently, baseball is baseball. A .300 hitter gets out 70% of the time and managers should put the players that give them the best chance to win on the field. It's just hilarious how people will rush to criticize a bad AB from Rougie and ignore his oppo double off the wall that led to a run while putting IKF on a pedestal as he's hitting ~.230 over the last 4 weeks. IKF has a career .678 OPS in the minors and all the Rougie haters on this thread are treating him like he's Gleyber Torres.

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The roogie lovers don't have a leg to stand on in this debate.

We literally gave a 50 million dollar contract to a guy who is hitting .212 with 1 Home run and he has no saving grace at all, he's mediocre on defense at best. He makes lots of boneheaded decisions on the field, on the bases, and at the plate. He's a very frustrating guy to watch.

I suspect that the Bautista punch, his after the game Gatorade dumping with Elvis, and his good fit in the club house is why they keep him around, but it doesn't make much sense to me. We have more talented players who could fill his spot.


I repeat. He hasn't done **** for the last 2 years including spring training. Time should be running out, but it doesn't look like it is. I'm starting to question this organizations decision making ability.

etxag18 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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etxag18 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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etxag18 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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etxag18 said:

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I did my part and pissed Reddick off tonight out in RF

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Details?

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Just yelled all kinds of stuff. Told him he was a$$ and was lucky to be hitting .220. He kept turning around and didn't look too happy

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Hahahah I wish I was nearby. I would've loved it.

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I was in section 44. I moved down from like row 7 to row 1 when it started clearing out. I couldn't get anyone else to join in with me

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Were the families with kids glaring at you?

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Oh absolutely

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Surprised they were even still there.

Grapesoda2525 said:

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Rossko said:

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Rossko said:

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Just checking in to see if the folks who criticize every Odor AB came to do the same for IKF watching 3 straight strikes to end the first with the bases loaded.

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IKF is evaluated differently because he's a rookie and doesn't have a 50 million dollar contract. Get that non sense out of here.

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He shouldn't be evaluated differently, baseball is baseball. A .300 hitter gets out 70% of the time and managers should put the players that give them the best chance to win on the field. It's just hilarious how people will rush to criticize a bad AB from Rougie and ignore his oppo double off the wall that led to a run while putting IKF on a pedestal as he's hitting ~.230 over the last 4 weeks. IKF has a career .678 OPS in the minors and all the Rougie haters on this thread are treating him like he's Gleyber Torres.

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The roogie lovers don't have a leg to stand on in this debate.

We literally gave a 50 million dollar contract to a guy who is hitting .212 with 1 Home run and he has no saving grace at all, he's mediocre on defense at best. He makes lots of boneheaded decisions on the field, on the bases, and at the plate. He's a very frustrating guy to watch.

I suspect that the Bautista punch, his after the game Gatorade dumping with Elvis, and his good fit in the club house is why they keep him around, but it doesn't make much sense to me. We have more talented players who could fill his spot.


I repeat. He hasn't done **** for the last 2 years including spring training. Time should be running out, but it doesn't look like it is. I'm starting to question this organizations decision making ability.

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30 HRs (19th overall in the AL) is quite a feat, but you are probably unhappy that he didn't hit them at better times?! He has been on the DL with a hamstring strain, so we'll have to see if that is affecting his offensive punch.

You know what is impressive?! Pay money to go see a player make millions, while telling said millionaire how terrible he is.

DallasAg 94 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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Rossko said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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Rossko said:

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Just checking in to see if the folks who criticize every Odor AB came to do the same for IKF watching 3 straight strikes to end the first with the bases loaded.

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IKF is evaluated differently because he's a rookie and doesn't have a 50 million dollar contract. Get that non sense out of here.

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He shouldn't be evaluated differently, baseball is baseball. A .300 hitter gets out 70% of the time and managers should put the players that give them the best chance to win on the field. It's just hilarious how people will rush to criticize a bad AB from Rougie and ignore his oppo double off the wall that led to a run while putting IKF on a pedestal as he's hitting ~.230 over the last 4 weeks. IKF has a career .678 OPS in the minors and all the Rougie haters on this thread are treating him like he's Gleyber Torres.

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The roogie lovers don't have a leg to stand on in this debate.

We literally gave a 50 million dollar contract to a guy who is hitting .212 with 1 Home run and he has no saving grace at all, he's mediocre on defense at best. He makes lots of boneheaded decisions on the field, on the bases, and at the plate. He's a very frustrating guy to watch.

I suspect that the Bautista punch, his after the game Gatorade dumping with Elvis, and his good fit in the club house is why they keep him around, but it doesn't make much sense to me. We have more talented players who could fill his spot.


I repeat. He hasn't done **** for the last 2 years including spring training. Time should be running out, but it doesn't look like it is. I'm starting to question this organizations decision making ability.

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30 HRs (19th overall in the AL) is quite a feat, but you are probably unhappy that he didn't hit them at better times?! He has been on the DL with a hamstring strain, so we'll have to see if that is affecting his offensive punch.

You know what is impressive?! Pay money to go see a player make millions, while telling said millionaire how terrible he is.

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Again....

That happened over 2 years ago. He hasn't been that player for a long time now. The pitchers have adjusted. The book is out on Odor. He's had 2 years to adjust and he hasn't. The guy is terrible now.

What are you his relative or something?

Last year - awful

Spring training - awful

This year- awful

Next year? Probably awful.....

Grapesoda2525 said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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Rossko said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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Rossko said:

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Just checking in to see if the folks who criticize every Odor AB came to do the same for IKF watching 3 straight strikes to end the first with the bases loaded.

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IKF is evaluated differently because he's a rookie and doesn't have a 50 million dollar contract. Get that non sense out of here.

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He shouldn't be evaluated differently, baseball is baseball. A .300 hitter gets out 70% of the time and managers should put the players that give them the best chance to win on the field. It's just hilarious how people will rush to criticize a bad AB from Rougie and ignore his oppo double off the wall that led to a run while putting IKF on a pedestal as he's hitting ~.230 over the last 4 weeks. IKF has a career .678 OPS in the minors and all the Rougie haters on this thread are treating him like he's Gleyber Torres.

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The roogie lovers don't have a leg to stand on in this debate.

We literally gave a 50 million dollar contract to a guy who is hitting .212 with 1 Home run and he has no saving grace at all, he's mediocre on defense at best. He makes lots of boneheaded decisions on the field, on the bases, and at the plate. He's a very frustrating guy to watch.

I suspect that the Bautista punch, his after the game Gatorade dumping with Elvis, and his good fit in the club house is why they keep him around, but it doesn't make much sense to me. We have more talented players who could fill his spot.


I repeat. He hasn't done **** for the last 2 years including spring training. Time should be running out, but it doesn't look like it is. I'm starting to question this organizations decision making ability.

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30 HRs (19th overall in the AL) is quite a feat, but you are probably unhappy that he didn't hit them at better times?! He has been on the DL with a hamstring strain, so we'll have to see if that is affecting his offensive punch.

You know what is impressive?! Pay money to go see a player make millions, while telling said millionaire how terrible he is.

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Again....

That happened over 2 years ago. He hasn't been that player for a long time now. The pitchers have adjusted. The book is out on Odor. He's had 2 years to adjust and he hasn't. The guy is terrible now.

What are you his relative or something?

Last year - awful

Spring training - awful

This year- awful

Next year? Probably awful.....

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30 HR 75 RBI from a 2B was in 2017. Where do you live that 2017 is "over two years ago"? No one is saying Odor is having a good year, just saying he deserves the season to try and work out of it and IKF isn't some amazing prospect who has better upside than Odor.

Not to derail the Odor talk, but I feel like two of my worlds are colliding. Ben Shapiro retweeted the below video. I don't know how to handle it

Why hasn't Moore been DFA?

Matt Moore