friscodick said:

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free_mhayden said:

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gambochaman said:

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free_mhayden said:

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So the Houston Astros are in Dallas, 20 minutes away from Rangers Ballpark, where they were offered to play 3 "home" games.

They instead opted to force their players to get on a plane and fly 1100 miles away to Tampa.

Yikes... Seems as though that organization values 3 games of a homefield advantage over their players well being.

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Its a 2.5 hour flight
Not a huge deal

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So if it's not a big deal then what is all the crying about?

Astros didn't want to sacrifice home-field advantage.

Rangers didn't want to piss off 60,000+ fans that had already bought tickets.

So they're playing in Tampa.

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How many of the 60K (which is a dubious number but lets not go there) would really be "pissed off?" The weather is nice right now in Arlington (a rarity for this time of year) so perhaps it would work better for them...who knows.

It also gives the Rangers an earlier homestand to make up ground on the wild card and play road games in late September when the Astros might be resting many of their starters.

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The Rangers averaged 22,000 in a scorching hot mid-week series vs the Seattle Mariners. Averaging over 20,000 a game vs Houston isn't a "dubious" estimate at all.

And it's not just about how many are pissed off. It's about how many would even find out in time -- you realize that you're wanting on a Monday night to notify people that the tickets they have for a game in a month is now tomorrow or the next day?

So, yes, you are screwing over a lot of fans. But if it was just to get the games played, OK... But it's not just to get the games played... It's to make sure Houston keeps homefield advantage for 3 games.

Sorry, Houston keeping homefield advantage for 3 games isn't worth Texas screwing over it's own fans. Texas offered it's field and it's money, Houston wanted more.

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It was a GM trying to do what's best for his team.

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Exactly. You're proving our point.

Farmer1906 said:

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free_mhayden said:

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AggieBand2004 said:

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So what it really came down to is Houston wanted home-field advantage in 3 games and felt Texas should screw their fans over to do so.

Texas said they'll happily donate to the cause, but they aren't screwing their fans over.

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This is the meat and potatoes of it, and every baseball front office would have chosen to do the same, were they in the Rangers' shoes

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And ultimately that would be the end of it. But the Houston front office publicly trying to frame it like Texas is somehow uncaring to the City of Houston's plight is downright shameful.

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It's the Houston front office framing them.

Y'all never cease to amaze me with complete nonsense.

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This story doesn't get anywhere near the amount of attention it has if Reid Ryan doesn't spout off to the media. Any other organization in baseball (Houston included) would've done the exact same thing.

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Farmer1906 said:

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free_mhayden said:

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AggieBand2004 said:

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So what it really came down to is Houston wanted home-field advantage in 3 games and felt Texas should screw their fans over to do so.

Texas said they'll happily donate to the cause, but they aren't screwing their fans over.

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This is the meat and potatoes of it, and every baseball front office would have chosen to do the same, were they in the Rangers' shoes

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And ultimately that would be the end of it. But the Houston front office publicly trying to frame it like Texas is somehow uncaring to the City of Houston's plight is downright shameful.

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It's the Houston front office framing them.

Y'all never cease to amaze me with complete nonsense.

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This story doesn't get anywhere near the amount of attention it has if Reid Ryan doesn't spout off to the media. Any other organization in baseball (Houston included) would've done the exact same thing.

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If the facts don't come out then it isn't a story. Thanks captain.

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It was a GM trying to do what's best for his team.

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Exactly. You're proving our point.

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Do you think the GM of a team should voluntarily put his team at a scheduling disadvantage because a catastrophe hits another city and makes another teams venue unplayable?

gambochaman said:

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Heaven forbid the texas fans are inconvenienced so two teams can keep the same number of home games

I mean Houston fans lost homes, property, and the city is in shambles but holy crap can you imagine if you had to refund tickets and tell some people that they wont have a baseball game to attend in September? I mean thats the real tragedy

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Houston fans have lost homes, property and the city is in shambles but holy crap can you imagine if their baseball team had to relinquish home field in 3 games of a 162 game season? I mean thats the real tragedy.

You don't?

You're buried in the playoffs. Even a scheduling advantage isn't enough to get you out of the cellar.

free_mhayden said:

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gambochaman said:

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Heaven forbid the texas fans are inconvenienced so two teams can keep the same number of home games

I mean Houston fans lost homes, property, and the city is in shambles but holy crap can you imagine if you had to refund tickets and tell some people that they wont have a baseball game to attend in September? I mean thats the real tragedy

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Houston fans have lost homes, property and the city is in shambles but holy crap can you imagine if their baseball team had to relinquish home field in 3 games of a 162 game season? I mean thats the real tragedy.

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Actually they did.... but they didnt give those home games to the rangers like the organization wanted so good on the astros

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The fact that Ryan brought it up makes me believe the Rangers were giving very little during negotiations.

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The fact that Houston viewed these as negotiations says a lot.

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What the **** would you call it?

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The fact that Ryan brought it up makes me believe the Rangers were giving very little during negotiations.

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The fact that Houston viewed these as negotiations says a lot.

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Considering there is money involved, how would there not be? Don't kid yourself.

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Other franchises would have been flexible....how in the hell does it screw the Texas fans? They have a month to make arrangements. It's an even swap fair and square. It was a VERY selfish move and totally negates what sports is all about. Dallas folks can spin this all they want but it's trash....the national media will pick this up and agree.

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They have a month make arrangements?

They have tickets for games on September 25th, 26th and 27th.

They would be told on Monday night that those tickets are instead good for Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday.

That's less than 24 hours to make arrangements.

Such crying, good lord

We always hear about how much fan support Arlington has, so why would this have been a big deal?

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It was a GM trying to do what's best for his team.

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Exactly. You're proving our point.

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Do you think the GM of a team should voluntarily put his team at a scheduling disadvantage because a catastrophe hits another city and makes another teams venue unplayable?

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100% YES
its called being a decent human being, which apparently neither the rangers nor their fans know anything ablut

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What makes Jon Daniels not a decent human being because of this? Would flood waters have dissipated, clouds have parted, and a dove flown down from heaven if JD would've agreed to swap series and the Astros had three more home games a month from now?

They're getting that in Tampa.

Lots of talk about inferiority complexes, coming from a team whose last meaningful August games happened when Napster was still warm in its grave

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free_mhayden said:

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I feel like the Houston fans that are upset about this are the type of people that actually get joy when they see another Baylor rape headline because it means bad news for the school/football team they don't like.

Talk about some mixed up priorities.

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You really believe that? This is your fan base, Arlington.

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Considering the glee that y'all showed for months after a boy was raped in a Dominican baseball camp I don't think he's far off.