***** Official 2017 TEX vs HOU Trash Talking Thread *****

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Yeah, all of that is proven false by the fact he was beamed the next season when the Rangers played them, and how Rangers fans cheered when him and Jack Off got into a fight.
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I think a lot of people assume Rangers fans have become excited this last week and a half because they made up ground on the Astros.

They are excited because it was teetering on the brink of a lost season (especially after Hamels was put on the shelf) and a week and a half later they have one of the wildcard spots.
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Said before that all happened that if we were going to drill somebody over that series I wanted it to be Donaldson. I was a whole hell of a lot more irritated with him than Bautista. Did I love it when Bautista got popped by Odor? Yep. He's a coward and acted like one and got what was coming to him. His cowardice showed up against the Braves recently too.
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free_mhayden said:

they have one of the wildcard spots.

OHHHHH....It's a long season anything can happen

They haven't won sheet

Just wait until August

Sounds familiar??
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TV Casualty said:

Nuke LaLoosh said:

This thread jumped the shark when the rangers fans legitimately claimed, in an epic history rewrite, that they were never in fact mad at Bautista for the bat flip...

I mean damn.


Astros fans were creaming their pants over the Bautista bat flip way more than Rangers fans were ever upset about the bat flip.

We watched the entire series and saw how big of a d-bag Bautista is and the bat flip was just one more thing to add to his being an *******.

Everyone else in the league hates the guy. It's only Toronto and very strangely Astros fans who get a hard on when thinking about Bautista.


























Obviously all Astros fans creaming about that bat flip, right? Everyone else in the nation hated it besides us and the Blue Jays, RIGHT?!




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Ag_07 said:

free_mhayden said:

they have one of the wildcard spots.

OHHHHH....It's a long season anything can happen

They haven't won sheet

Just wait until August

Sounds familiar??

The difference is Texas isn't parading around a "2017 Wild Card Champions" banner or making "Wildcard - Come and Take It" shirts.

Your franchise had to become one of the worst in the history of baseball over a 3-4 year time period in order to stock up on young talent. Thus far it has produced you a wildcard spot and first round exit, a missed playoffs and a 6 game lead in May.

Not sure I'd be puffing my chest out about that... About 80% of the rest of Major League Baseball has accomplished that over the last decade or two without having to tank for 4 years.
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free_mhayden said:

Ag_07 said:

free_mhayden said:

they have one of the wildcard spots.

OHHHHH....It's a long season anything can happen

They haven't won sheet

Just wait until August

Sounds familiar??

The difference is Texas isn't parading around a "2017 Wild Card Champions" banner or making "Wildcard - Come and Take It" shirts.

Your franchise had to become one of the worst in the history of baseball over a 3-4 year time period in order to stock up on young talent. Thus far it has produced you a wildcard spot and first round exit, a missed playoffs and a 6 game lead in May.

Not sure I'd be puffing my chest out about that... About 80% of the rest of Major League Baseball has accomplished that over the last decade or two without having to tank for 4 years.
I like how you use the "tanking" thing like it gives you some baseball moral high ground. You were probably one of those people who thought the Padres had a great offseason a few years ago and they were really going for it!

Every team has tanked at some time. Even people in your own thread are advocating trading Yu if you are out of it come the trade deadline. Wouldn't that be GASP, tanking?!
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What an absolutely horrible post.

1) rangers fans disappeared before this flukey win streak
2) tanking and stockpiling young talent doesn't make a "bad franchise" - it in fact makes a smart franchise.
3) care to prove that "80%" of teams have done whatever you're trying to say in the last "decade or two"
4) the stros have in fact made the World Series in the past "decade or two"... guess 80% of teams have done that as well?

What a complete abortion of a post.
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I'm not sure what any of that has to do with the hypocrisy of you guys telling us to calm down that nothing is won in May and it doesn't matter what you do until the end of the season, then coming on here and being excited for having a WC spot in May.

If you can be excited about that why can't we be excited for being the only team at 30 wins and a 6 game lead in the division?
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Ag_07 said:

I'm not sure what any of that has to do with the hypocrisy of you guys telling us to calm down that nothing is won in May and it doesn't matter what you do until the end of the season, then coming on here and being excited for having a WC spot in May.

If you can be excited about that why can't we be excited for being the only team at 30 wins and a 6 game lead in the division?

I thought it was pretty clear in my post -- Rangers fans are excited because their season was on the brink of being over and in a week and a half time frame climbed back into things.
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The difference is Texas isn't parading around a "2017 Wild Card Champions" banner or making "Wildcard - Come and Take It" shirts.
Oh yeah, because we totally have those shirts. Clearly that's the difference.

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tanking
Your franchise tanked for 35 years and accomplished nothing from it...
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I thought it was pretty clear in my post -- Rangers fans are excited because their season was on the brink of being over and in a week and a half time frame climbed back into things.
Right, and we got off to one of the best starts in MLB history. But that's totally not something to be excited about. Not completely sucking ass, however, gets a fanbase on their feet.
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Lucky #007 said:

Not really. Flukey would imply that there was no skill and it was just dumb luck and we should expect to go back to what was happening before.
The lucky part was getting a string of 10 games against teams that were so awful they couldn't even beat the Rangers.
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Ah...So you sucked so bad before so it's perfectly ok to be excited?

Keep on keepin on buddy



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irish pete ag06 said:

free_mhayden said:

Ag_07 said:

free_mhayden said:

they have one of the wildcard spots.

OHHHHH....It's a long season anything can happen

They haven't won sheet

Just wait until August

Sounds familiar??

The difference is Texas isn't parading around a "2017 Wild Card Champions" banner or making "Wildcard - Come and Take It" shirts.

Your franchise had to become one of the worst in the history of baseball over a 3-4 year time period in order to stock up on young talent. Thus far it has produced you a wildcard spot and first round exit, a missed playoffs and a 6 game lead in May.

Not sure I'd be puffing my chest out about that... About 80% of the rest of Major League Baseball has accomplished that over the last decade or two without having to tank for 4 years.
I like how you use the "tanking" thing like it gives you some baseball moral high ground. You were probably one of those people who thought the Padres had a great offseason a few years ago and they were really going for it!

Every team has tanked at some time. Even people in your own thread are advocating trading Yu if you are out of it come the trade deadline. Wouldn't that be GASP, tanking?!

Only two teams in the last 100 years of Major League Baseball have averaged 104 losses over a 4-year span.

The Philadelphia Phillies of the early 1940's -- who almost didn't field a team because of lack of funds.

And the Houston Astros of 2011-2014 -- who had so little clout and significance in Major League Baseball that they were told to leave the National League after 50 years.
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Ouch
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So much salt on this thread today.

And so much cognitive dissonance from the resident burnt orange Rangers fan.
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And the Houston Astros of 2011-2014 -- who had so little clout and significance in Major League Baseball that they were told to leave the National League after 50 years.
Of coarse that decision had nothing to do with the commissioner at that time being a previous owner of one of the other teams in our division and everything to do with our so called lack of clout and significance in MLB...
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bearkatag15 said:

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And the Houston Astros of 2011-2014 -- who had so little clout and significance in Major League Baseball that they were told to leave the National League after 50 years.
Of coarse that decision had nothing to do with the commissioner at that time being a previous owner of one of the other teams in our division and everything to do with our so called lack of clout and significance in MLB...

I think you just described what lack of clout and significance is.
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* One of the worst 4-year span of losses in the last 100 years of MLB

* The worst head-to-head record vs an opponent (Texas) in the last 100 years of MLB.

* One of only 4 teams to have never won a World Series game

* Forced to move from the NL to the AL after 50 years.


But hey -- 6 game lead in May. COME AND TAKE IT.
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free_mhayden said:

irish pete ag06 said:

free_mhayden said:

Ag_07 said:

free_mhayden said:

they have one of the wildcard spots.

OHHHHH....It's a long season anything can happen

They haven't won sheet

Just wait until August

Sounds familiar??

The difference is Texas isn't parading around a "2017 Wild Card Champions" banner or making "Wildcard - Come and Take It" shirts.

Your franchise had to become one of the worst in the history of baseball over a 3-4 year time period in order to stock up on young talent. Thus far it has produced you a wildcard spot and first round exit, a missed playoffs and a 6 game lead in May.

Not sure I'd be puffing my chest out about that... About 80% of the rest of Major League Baseball has accomplished that over the last decade or two without having to tank for 4 years.
I like how you use the "tanking" thing like it gives you some baseball moral high ground. You were probably one of those people who thought the Padres had a great offseason a few years ago and they were really going for it!

Every team has tanked at some time. Even people in your own thread are advocating trading Yu if you are out of it come the trade deadline. Wouldn't that be GASP, tanking?!

Only two teams in the last 100 years of Major League Baseball have averaged 104 losses over a 4-year span.

The Philadelphia Phillies of the early 1940's -- who almost didn't field a team because of lack of funds.

And the Houston Astros of 2011-2014 -- who had so little clout and significance in Major League Baseball that they were told to leave the National League after 50 years.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.... It had nothing to do with a change of ownership being extorted and Bud Selig's personal investment in the Brewers. Nothing at all.
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free_mhayden said:

* One of the worst 4-year span of losses in the last 100 years of MLB (1)

* The worst head-to-head record vs an opponent (Texas) in the last 100 years of MLB. (2)

* One of only 4 teams to have never won a World Series game (3)

* Forced to move from the NL to the AL after 50 years.


But hey -- 6 game lead in May. COME AND TAKE IT.
1. What does this matter? I really really really hope your front office takes the approach to keep losses minimized and just founders at .500 for the next 2 decades.

2. This may never be made up but will likely draw closer as your team's talent level drops over the next few seasons and the Astros does nothing but rise.

3. WGAF about this. Wow, you won a World Series game. Your team is mainly known for being some of the biggest choke artists in the playoffs of late.
  • 1 pitch away! Nelson Cruz.
  • We came and TOOK IT! E6, E3, Bautista bat flip
  • Best record in AL, Bannister just knows to win 1-run games! Swept by the Blue Jays.
I really don't think enough as been made about your choking in the fall. The Buffalo Bills of baseball.

4. This could have easily happened to the Rangers if the timing would have been right and the imbalance would have been in the AL since your team had to file ****ing bankruptcy to complete a deal.
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The only luck the Rangers have is bad luck. Everything else is pure skill.

Most baseball fans would recognize the sheer luck involved in setting the modern day record for winning percentage in one-run games or in reeling off a ten-game win streak, a feat that some teams have never accomplished in their history. But not Rangers fans. Those are skills that the team possesses, much like their ability to sequence hits.

Thankfully, for the rest of baseball, they only utilize such skills once every seven years or so, or in the case of one-run games, once per ever.
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iBrad said:

The only luck the Rangers have is bad luck. Everything else is pure skill.

Most baseball fans would recognize the sheer luck involved in setting the modern day record for winning percentage in one-run games or in reeling off a ten-game win streak, a feat that some teams have never accomplished in their history. But not Rangers fans. Those are skills that the team possesses, much like their ability to sequence hits.

Thankfully, for the rest of baseball, they only utilize such skills once every seven years or so, or in the case of one-run games, once per ever.
Who. Gives. A. ****.

Yes, there is an element of luck in sports. Not every single team regresses to the mean over the course of a season. Are we not supposed to enjoy a division championship because it was "lucky"? **** no. We're going to enjoy the hell out of that season because it was a blast to watch, especially given how we flat out embarrassed our in-state rivals.

You guys act like because something was a statistical anomaly it didn't happen. At the end of the day sports are about wins and losses, not should've and could've. Baseball is a weird sport. It takes luck AND skill to win a World Series.
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By all means, enjoy the hell out of it. It's just too bad you traded away so many top ten prospects to try to capitalize on that run of luck and fell flat on your face. That's going to start to sting over the next few years.
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All **** talking aside, while I wasn't crazy about it at the time, the one potential positive I saw with the move to the AL was it would create a natural rivalry that would invigorate the respective fanbases. Being the best two teams in the division since 2015 has helped that tremendously as well, of course.

Rivalries and passion are good for business, and this thread is proof positive that it's had an impact. These threads didn't exist 10 years ago. There was really no reason for the fanbases to give a **** about each other.

Also, both franchises lacked real rivals in the past. I mean, good divisional opponents mattered like the Cardinals and Angels, but no more then they mattered to any other team in the division. This rivalry is rooted in the most natural aspects of human instinct, dick wagging turf wares with your neighboring tribe. Good stuff.
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Silent For Too Long said:

All **** talking aside, while I wasn't crazy about it at the time, the one potential positive I saw with the move to the AL was it would create a natural rivalry that would invigorate the respective fanbases. Being the best two teams in the division since 2015 has helped that tremendously as well, of course.

Rivalries and passion are good for business, and this thread is proof positive that it's had an impact. These threads didn't exist 10 years ago. There was really no reason for the fanbases to give a **** about each other.

Also, both franchises lacked real rivals in the past. I mean, good divisional opponents mattered like the Cardinals and Angels, but no more then they mattered to any other team in the division. This rivalry is rooted in the most natural aspects of human instinct, dick wagging turf wares with your neighboring tribe. Good stuff.
Be careful where you wag it. Rougned Odor's brother Rougned Odor might be around.
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Man you guys love to stretch that story paper thin. Go ahead and take whatever degree of separation you need to take shots at the Rangers and geek out about it.
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Silent For Too Long said:

All **** talking aside, while I wasn't crazy about it at the time, the one potential positive I saw with the move to the AL was it would create a natural rivalry that would invigorate the respective fanbases. Being the best two teams in the division since 2015 has helped that tremendously as well, of course.

Rivalries and passion are good for business, and this thread is proof positive that it's had an impact. These threads didn't exist 10 years ago. There was really no reason for the fanbases to give a **** about each other.

Also, both franchises lacked real rivals in the past. I mean, good divisional opponents mattered like the Cardinals and Angels, but no more then they mattered to any other team in the division. This rivalry is rooted in the most natural aspects of human instinct, dick wagging turf wares with your neighboring tribe. Good stuff.
This is exactly how baseball should be restructured too. When... it's not if anymore, baseball expands to 2 more cities, they will have to go to 8, 4-team divisions. It would be very natural for Texas and Houston to be joined by Kansas City and Minnesota... or Mexico City if the MLB decided to expand there.

This article on Fangraphs did a decent job of throwing out a hypothetical. Maybe New Orleans or OKC gets a team and it joins also. Either way, I 100% believe that the divisions should be made a geographically regional as possible and this Rangers Astros rivalry that is blossoming is proof and great for the game.
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Look at mhayden puffing out his chest. Reminds me of Greg after a TT win.
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They seem hard headed about that stuff though. I never understood why, when they started interleague play, they didn't have obvious geographic rivals playing every year. It took several years for them to make that a thing.
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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-would-a-post-expansion-mlb-look-like/

Forgot to attach the article... Here's the realignments...






Now.. the radical one

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The Twins in the AL South doesn't seem like a fit, but I'm not sure where else they can go. It would all depend on where the expansion teams get added. If it is Mexico City, OKC, New Orleans or say a Nashville, I would expect the Twins to go somewhere else and the expansion team get added to the AL South in this scenario.
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If/when they realign, they should go ahead and add the DH to the NL, too. I'd say remove it from both leagues, but the MLBPA would never let that happen. And I will say that my favorite thing about the move to the AL is not having to watch the pitcher kill a rally. This thread is moving up the list, though.
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Rangers, Astros, Chi Sox and Royals would be an awesome division. You could also go the other way and reshuffle some expansion teams to put us in a division with the D-backs and Rockies.

Anything to keep us from having to play 9:05 games in ****ing Oakland.
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