***** Official Houston Astros 2017 Season Thread *****

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This is probably their go to lineup vs RHP.

Utley Splits:


Pederson's Splits:


Ag_07
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Utley is old balls and Pederson was a one hit wonder

Neither one of them scare me the slightest bit
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Pederson sucks against everybody
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Talk about the bottom falling out of that lineup. Verlander gets every other inning off apparently.
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MLBshop.com really sucks. They still haven't shipped my stuff. Meanwhile Dicks and Academy have been receiving multiple shipments a day of Astros world series gear. Yet the "official" MLB store doesn't supposedly have the items yet.

Finally got the on field blue hat with the WS patch on the side at Dick's today (the one in Katy off I-10 had a lot) and canceled my MLB shop order. Never using them again.
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ClickClack said:

MLBshop.com really sucks. They still haven't shipped my stuff. Meanwhile Dicks and Academy have been receiving multiple shipments a day of Astros world series gear. Yet the "official" MLB store doesn't supposedly have the items yet.
yep same here. I've had the same issue with NFLshop.com ... when the NFL playoffs happened I didn't get my texans stuff until two weeks later and they had just lost to the Patriots.

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By on the field do you mean the low profile 59fifty?

I went to the Dicks at Baybrook yesterday. They had a lot of hats but they were all the high crown 59Fifty version.
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Lol...

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03_Aggie said:

By on the field do you mean the low profile 59fifty?

I went to the Dicks at Baybrook yesterday. They had a lot of hats but they were all the high crown 59Fifty version.
The only place I've seen that sells low profile besides the team store are LIDS website, and MLB shop website.
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bearkatag15 said:

Lol...


His swing may be just fine, it's just his approach.

Answering questions from the media during a crucial series is just as much about messaging to your player and working the locker room as it is about the truth.
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That's my point. We play 100+ games a year where our pitchers never have to pick up a bat and have a guy playing DH all year. Meanwhile, the Dodger's pitchers at least have to get comfortable swinging a bat or sac bunting to not waste every pitcher at bat in a season.

It affect us much worse than it does them.
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03_Aggie said:

By on the field do you mean the low profile 59fifty?

I went to the Dicks at Baybrook yesterday. They had a lot of hats but they were all the high crown 59Fifty version.

I found one low profile in my size at Lids today but I actually liked the regular crown better. Dicks only had the regular crown on field. They look great.
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Third most important game of the year tonight. #1 and #2 were Games 6 and 7 last week. Tonight is almost "must win" level. Kate is going to have to help out the hitters big time.
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So how do the Astros usually fare against Hill? Have we faced him before?
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The Astros hitters in the lineup tonight are a collective 4-28 for their careers vs Hill...


however the Dodgers lineup vs Verlander are a collective 3-19 for their careers.
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tremble said:

That's my point. We play 100+ games a year where our pitchers never have to pick up a bat and have a guy playing DH all year. Meanwhile, the Dodger's pitchers at least have to get comfortable swinging a bat or sac bunting to not waste every pitcher at bat in a season.

It affect us much worse than it does them.


Generally the AL team has a better bench player to pinch hit and then when the series shifts to the American League park the NL team has a disadvantage as their DH is usually not as good as the AL DH. So it evens out a little.

I said this last night. I used to defend pitchers batting when the 'Stros were in the NL. After a few years in the AL I do NOT miss pitchers batting at all. They are so bad at it that it makes the game not as fun to watch.
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Rich Hill makes me think of Ted Lilly

And I never liked Ted Lilly, so **** Rich Hill
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I still like the idea of pitchers batting, but it needs to be implemented all the way down to the minors, colleges and high schools. If that were the case, then pitchers would eventually become better hitters. They would probably not reach the level of every day players, but they'd be a lot better.

But if that isn't going to happen, then just skip the whole deal and go DH all the way down.

I just think it needs to be one or the other, having it still split after all this time is pretty silly to me.
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bobinator said:

I still like the idea of pitchers batting, but it needs to be implemented all the way down to the minors, colleges and high schools. If that were the case, then pitchers would eventually become better hitters. They would probably not reach the level of every day players, but they'd be a lot better.

But if that isn't going to happen, then just skip the whole deal and go DH all the way down.

I just think it needs to be one or the other, having it still split after all this time is pretty silly to me.
If I'm the MLBPA, I'm pushing for DH across both leagues, but with a 26-man roster.
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After hearing Josh Innes go off on how stupid people are that think Joe Buck hates their team and hearing him talk about all the comments on twitter, I started looking myself. The yankee fans hate his ass and think he thinks Altuve is god's gift to baseball. It's like an exact mirror image of what astro fans say about Joe but coming from Yankee fans.
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Quote:

I still like the idea of pitchers batting, but it needs to be implemented all the way down to the minors, colleges and high schools. If that were the case, then pitchers would eventually become better hitters. They would probably not reach the level of every day players, but they'd be a lot better.

No they wouldn't. Better pitchers, regardless of hitting ability, will become major league pitchers. Any "good hitting" pitchers will only be a coincidence of being a better pitcher.

The only way they would be better hitters is if MLB would start selecting for "worse pitchers but better hitters" but this will not happen. The value of the pitcher will always be throwing, as that's the highest influence on the game because you're always holding and throwing the ball.
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If I'm the MLBPA, I'm pushing for DH across both leagues, but with a 26-man roster.

The issue wont be from the MLBPA side. They would applaud having more jobs for their players in a heartbeat.
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diehard03 said:

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If I'm the MLBPA, I'm pushing for DH across both leagues, but with a 26-man roster.

The issue wont be from the MLBPA side. They would applaud having more jobs for their players in a heartbeat.
Oh I agree, I just mean pressing the issue if the DH argument ever comes up.
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Texaggie7nine said:

After hearing Josh Innes go off on how stupid people are that think Joe Buck hates their team and hearing him talk about all the comments on twitter, I started looking myself. The yankee fans hate his ass and think he thinks Altuve is god's gift to baseball. It's like an exact mirror image of what astro fans say about Joe but coming from Yankee fans.


Well, Altuve didn't set the post season strikeout record in only 13 games
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It probably comes in 2021 at worst. I am not sure if its' covered under the commissioners powers to do unilaterally. I want to say I heard this was possible with currently new CBA, when they were experimenting in the minors with man on base in extras.
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They'd still get better just because they'd have to do it year after year. Right now a high school player could go to college and then depending on where they get drafted have to bat for the first time in six years.

Again, they wouldn't suddenly become great at it or be as good as every day players, but they would get better just by having to do it. And presumably they're all competitors so if they had to do it all the time they'd want to get better.
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astros4545 said:

Texaggie7nine said:

After hearing Josh Innes go off on how stupid people are that think Joe Buck hates their team and hearing him talk about all the comments on twitter, I started looking myself. The yankee fans hate his ass and think he thinks Altuve is god's gift to baseball. It's like an exact mirror image of what astro fans say about Joe but coming from Yankee fans.


Well, Altuve didn't set the post season strikeout record in only 13 games

Yeah Altuve was hitting about .450 mid-way through the ALCS. Judge set a strikeout record. Hmmm.
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Everyone needs to take a shot pre-game, for Jobu to wake up dead bats. Do it for the team.
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Someone go choke their chicken!



We need a sacrifice
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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I hope you al have your Kate pics loaded up and ready to go
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The two things I don't miss about pitchers hitting:

  • Pitchers killing a rally
  • Pitchers being pulled too early for a pinch hitter

Let's revisit game seven of the ALCS with pitchers batting and assume it's still 1-0 in the bottom of the seventh. We get two on with two outs and McCullers is due up next. In just about every NL game, he would get pulled in favor of a pinch hitter, who has around a 20% chance of getting a hit. So instead of leaving in a pitcher that's dominating, you have to turn to a shaky bullpen, while hoping and praying that the pinch hitter comes through.
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On it
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Texaggie7nine said:

After hearing Josh Innes go off on how stupid people are that think Joe Buck hates their team and hearing him talk about all the comments on twitter, I started looking myself. The yankee fans hate his ass and think he thinks Altuve is god's gift to baseball. It's like an exact mirror image of what astro fans say about Joe but coming from Yankee fans.


I don't think Joe Buck is biased at all... the network is towards big market teams. But he is not. I think the issue is that most fans are used to listening to their "home team's broadcast" on tv... and obviously those are very one sided. So hearing a neutral one is a lot different and feels like they are favoring the other team.
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I'm wearing the same shirt that I wore for games 6&7 of the LCS to please the baseball gods
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