Would not want to be Weiters or Lobaton in that locker room tonight. Bryce Harper gonna go ape*****

Bryce Harper sucks ass.

The bags are much more rigid these days.

TexasRebel said:

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To that same end, there are plenty of times a ball beats the runner to a base by a dozen feet.

Should the runner be safe upon replay if he could sneaky snake a shoelace to the bag?

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Depends on if they define a shoelace as part of the body. They call hit by pitch even if it hits only the jersey and not the actual player. There would have to be clear definition.

I'll put it another way...

To me, it's like having a TD called back cause someone didn't have their mouthpiece in.

Sure, that may be the letter of the law, but really?

Beat40 said:

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TexasRebel said:

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To that same end, there are plenty of times a ball beats the runner to a base by a dozen feet.

Should the runner be safe upon replay if he could sneaky snake a shoelace to the bag?

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Depends on if they define a shoelace as part of the body. They call hit by pitch even if it hits only the jersey and not the actual player. There would have to be clear definition.

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The shoelace is not the issue here, dude.

TexasRebel said:

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Beat40 said:

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TexasRebel said:

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To that same end, there are plenty of times a ball beats the runner to a base by a dozen feet.

Should the runner be safe upon replay if he could sneaky snake a shoelace to the bag?

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Depends on if they define a shoelace as part of the body. They call hit by pitch even if it hits only the jersey and not the actual player. There would have to be clear definition.

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The shoelace is not the issue here, dude.

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I overall agree with you that if a shoelace crosses a bag, the guys shouldn't be safe. I think it's the exact same situation as what happened here. I would not be in favor of that.

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If he slides head first like he should have his foot doesn't pop off.

Who the fack dives back feet first?

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I agree with you. But at the end of the day what he should have done doesn't matter. If it's a stupid rule, it's a stupid rule.

titanmaster_race said:

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But the base isn't flat. It's a bag. Like its been since before any of us were born. Its not some new thing added to the game. I'll admit that I think replay is getting too ticky tacky, but he wasn't in contact with the bag and he got tagged.

Maybe Rizzo can use this to beat his chest and scream "Respect me" some more.

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If we are going to get that ticky tacky with replay, why can't the rule be made for common sense.

Let me ask you this. Looking at the play, which you have already said replay has gotten ticky tacky, if you were writing the rule for what consitiutes as an out on a tag play, would that situation be an out?

Dumba$$ had no business off the bag in that situation. I'd have an embolism if Centeno pulled that s@@t in that situation.

screw-tu said:

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Dumba$$ had no business off the bag in that situation. I'd have an embolism if Centeno pulled that s@@t in that situation.

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R-Dog said:

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If the ball beats you and you avoid the tag via a swim move or something like that, then sure...you better not lose contact with the base.

But if you beat the throw by a mile, slide straight into the base, that should be it.

That play isn't even a blip on the radar for the first 100+ years of baseball. And now, a teams season may have just ended because of it.

Dumb. If you can challenge that, then you should be able to challenge balls and strikes too. Equally absurd.

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I agree with this.

Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

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If your off the base and get tagged your out
Simple as that
He was off the base and got tagged. It's not a stupid rule, it's one of the most simple rules in baseball...

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He slid STRAIGHT INTO THE BAG. It's a stupid rule for this reason. Foot didn't even pop off more than an inch when he slid straight into the bag. It's just not commons sense.

At home he's safe with no questions.

titanmaster_race said:

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screw-tu said:

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Dumba$$ had no business off the bag in that situation. I'd have an embolism if Centeno pulled that s@@t in that situation.

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Agree he probably shouldn't been off he bag. Still holds no bearing on the conversation of the replay of the slide.

And look, I'm a stros' fan. Yeah, I would be upset with the player for taking a large lead in that situation, or if they didn't slide head first.

However, I'd also be pissed that my dude was called out for a situation where he clearly slid straight into the bag and his foot popped off for less than a second.

screw-tu said:

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His foot was off the bag. I've been watching baseball a long time & seen many a player hug the bag like a life preserver with their hands in that situation. You see them call time before they even dare to lift their hand off the bag ALL THE TIME.
.Why slide into first that way? Why even be off the bag in that situation? There's a man on 2nd.
Nats & their backup catcher asking for it.

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It's not a question of did the guy make smart decision. It's a question of only the tag at that point. Should a guy be called out because the bag causes his foot to pop off? Dude slide straight into the bag and his foot popped off the the bag because it's ridged. Again, would have been 100% safe if this was a play at home. Should the bag cause the out?

Can we just move on from this replay debate?

To be honest, I'm guessing that sliding back into first feet first rather than head first is pretty rare. Seen plenty of situations where the first baseman has tapped them more than once trying to catch them off the bag. So that's the rule.
They seem to know it, since they usually hug the bag not moving their hand until they safely call time. If the Astros catch somebody like that I'm pretty upset if they aren't called out regardless of what caused their foot/hand to come off the bag. I'm just of the opinion unless the first basemen pushes them off....they're fair game.

Yeah, I can move on from the debate, haha. I just like a spirited debate every now and then.

I see both sides and even agree it should not have even been an issue to beign with if he slides head first or takes a small lead.

Got 2 tix from my brother tonight after his FIL found a way to get even better seats than what he had already.

Got the brother discount for Section 111 let's do this!!!!

I hope we don't get into any situations like this with the Yankees. Let's all hope the umpires and replay are non factors. I do see both sides. It is fun to debate baseball.
Good luck to the Ags and Stros this weekend

CSWendt said:

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Can we just move on from this replay debate?

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