"Stasi" what an unfortunate name. Probably not popular in Germany.

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cevans_40 said:

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free_mhayden said:

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AccidentProne said:

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Lead with that next time you want to try and say you can do something better than a professional baseball player

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I didn't say I could carry a .300 average or hit 30 bombs. Just little things that this team continues to fail to execute grow frustrating. Hopefully you can understand that asking a guy like Gallo (a dead pull hitter) to pull a ball with a runner on 2nd and no outs isn't asking too much.

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Exactly. He's a dead pull hitter. If it goes to left field it wasn't on purpose.

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Which is why Gallo saw up and in and low and away -- pitches that he's not going to pull on the ground.

Most hitters know what they are trying to do when they go to the plate -- the funny thing that people often miss is that these are stud pitchers that know what location to throw the ball in order to prevent it.

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He was a day late (on a guy that tops out at 93) on both pitches he flied to left. I am not, by any means, claiming to as good as these guys but in 2 situations where anything on the right side of the field would move the runner, Gallo couldn't get it done. I would be criticizing coaching if they asked him to bunt, but he has to be able to pull the ball in those situations.

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Except anything on the right side of the field wouldn't move the runners over. If he rolls over on a grounder it's a double play. If he hits a shallow pop fly (like the shallow one he hit to left), then the runners aren't going to advance (and they wouldn't be wise to risk it with only 1 out).

It's one thing to complain that your guy didn't put the ball in play with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs -- but a coach wants his slugger up there slugging. He doesn't want his slugger up there trying to push/pull it to a certain side of the field.

If pulling the ball on the ground against any big league pitcher was that easy, you'd see a whole lot more hit-and-runs being put on.

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His 1st at bat was following a leadoff double. I am done *****ing about it but I can promise you that you will see plenty of outside pitches pulled if you watch a baseball game.

I know it happens, but even if he was capable of doing it when he wanted to (which he's not), to ask him to concentrate on doing it with nobody out with less than 2 strikes is just playing bad statistical baseball. It would be with any regular hitter, but especially with your most productive one.

There's a reason the small-ball/1-run-inning isn't prevalent in baseball anymore.

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cevans_40 said:

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free_mhayden said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Lead with that next time you want to try and say you can do something better than a professional baseball player

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I didn't say I could carry a .300 average or hit 30 bombs. Just little things that this team continues to fail to execute grow frustrating. Hopefully you can understand that asking a guy like Gallo (a dead pull hitter) to pull a ball with a runner on 2nd and no outs isn't asking too much.

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Exactly. He's a dead pull hitter. If it goes to left field it wasn't on purpose.

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Which is why Gallo saw up and in and low and away -- pitches that he's not going to pull on the ground.

Most hitters know what they are trying to do when they go to the plate -- the funny thing that people often miss is that these are stud pitchers that know what location to throw the ball in order to prevent it.

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He was a day late (on a guy that tops out at 93) on both pitches he flied to left. I am not, by any means, claiming to as good as these guys but in 2 situations where anything on the right side of the field would move the runner, Gallo couldn't get it done. I would be criticizing coaching if they asked him to bunt, but he has to be able to pull the ball in those situations.

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Except anything on the right side of the field wouldn't move the runners over. If he rolls over on a grounder it's a double play. If he hits a shallow pop fly (like the shallow one he hit to left), then the runners aren't going to advance (and they wouldn't be wise to risk it with only 1 out).

It's one thing to complain that your guy didn't put the ball in play with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs -- but a coach wants his slugger up there slugging. He doesn't want his slugger up there trying to push/pull it to a certain side of the field.

If pulling the ball on the ground against any big league pitcher was that easy, you'd see a whole lot more hit-and-runs being put on.

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You do realize that 2nd & SS communicate with each other before ever pitch and they change who will be covering 2nd according to pitch location. A ground ball on a hit & run is only effective if it's hit at the vacated position or hit sharply in a hole.

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I know it happens, but even if he was capable of doing it when he wanted to (which he's not), to ask him to concentrate on doing it with nobody out with less than 2 strikes is just playing bad statistical baseball. It would be with any regular hitter, but especially with your most productive one.

There's a reason the small-ball/1-run-inning isn't prevalent in baseball anymore.

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The point of my complaint is that he was trying to pull the ball. He was not trying to hit either of those pitches to left.

No, he was trying to hit the pitches where they were pitched... Which is what he should do.

Sorry, whether or not you could pull the ball against a major league pitcher or not, no major league coach is telling his slugger on a 1-1 and 3-1 count to concentrate on hitting the ball to a certain side so that maybe it can move the runners over to 3rd base in the 2nd/4th inning.

It's insanely bad strategy backed up by gobs and gobs of data.

In that position Joey Gallo should be trying to get a hit to knock the runners in. He didn't. That's it.

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No, he was trying to hit the pitches where they were pitched... Which is what he should do.

Sorry, whether or not you could pull the ball against a major league pitcher or not, no major league coach is telling his slugger on a 1-1 and 3-1 count to concentrate on hitting the ball to a certain side so that maybe it can move the runners over to 3rd base in the 2nd/4th inning.

It's insanely bad strategy backed up by gobs and gobs of data.

In that position Joey Gallo should be trying to get a hit to knock the runners in. He didn't. That's it.

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Gallo just proved my point for me.

I mean, he did just pull a low and away pitch

I didn't see his 1st AB, but in his second he was way behind the fastball on the 3-1 count. He knew it was coming, was just behind

I'm gonna step away from this debate... Whether a guy can pull an outside pitch or not really isn't all that relevant. To say that situationally that is what you are asking him to do in that spot is just flat out wrong and bad baseball. Back to game talk.

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I'm gonna step away from this debate... Whether a guy can pull an outside pitch or not really isn't all that relevant. To say that situationally that is what you are asking him to do in that spot is just flat out wrong and bad baseball. Back to game talk.

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I will tell you this for a fact, Gallo is trying to hit outside pitches to center and pull everything else. If he ever hit a ball to left, he missed it.

Right. And the point being made is that in a general sense you'd like the ball hit on the right side to move your runner from second to third, but you're never going to ask guys like Gallo or Napoli to purposefully try to do that. Someone like Elvis, DDS, Choo, even Maz you'd probably expect that

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free_mhayden said:

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I'm gonna step away from this debate... Whether a guy can pull an outside pitch or not really isn't all that relevant. To say that situationally that is what you are asking him to do in that spot is just flat out wrong and bad baseball. Back to game talk.

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I will tell you this for a fact, Gallo is trying to hit outside pitches to center and pull everything else. If he ever hit a ball to left, he missed it.

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If Gallo did what he wanted to do he would have hit a 3-run blast... I'm not arguing that Gallo did what he was trying to do, I'm arguing that Gallo wasn't making a conscious effort to try and get the ball into right field for any kind of "situational hitting".

free_mhayden said:

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free_mhayden said:

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I'm gonna step away from this debate... Whether a guy can pull an outside pitch or not really isn't all that relevant. To say that situationally that is what you are asking him to do in that spot is just flat out wrong and bad baseball. Back to game talk.

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I will tell you this for a fact, Gallo is trying to hit outside pitches to center and pull everything else. If he ever hit a ball to left, he missed it.

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If Gallo did what he wanted to do he would have hit a 3-run blast... I'm not arguing that Gallo did what he was trying to do, I'm arguing that Gallo wasn't making a conscious effort to try and get the ball into right field for any kind of "situational hitting".

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And I am/was disappointed that in consecutive AB's he couldn't do what he wanted to do or even just miss it a little and hit a fly ball.

Good inning there by Yu

Thanks AP!

Napoli!

Add another ninja to the collection.

NAP NAP WEINER! NAP NAP WEINER! NAP NAP WEINER!!

Party at Napoli's!

Good to finally see some bats coming around in the middle of the line up

More please

That was not a catch, but I will take it

HELLO WIN COLUMN

Back to .500 for the first time since 0-0

gigem1223 said:

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7-0 since I put my dog down....


Knew I should have done it sooner

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Wtf man

It was a joke....

.500. Let's keep it going and start working our way up

HELLO WIN COLUMN!