*****Official Texas Rangers 2016 Season Thread*****

1,895,123 Views | 19395 Replies | Last: 8 yr ago by Mozart Paintings
agent-maroon
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
quote:
Mlb network just had a discussion regarding a trade between the Rangers and Yankees. McCann and Chapman straight up for Gallo and Profar. Would you guys do it? I say hell no but they seem to think the Rangers should do it in a heart beat.

Of course they think that the Rangers should do it. This just means that the Yankees would be the big winner in that trade
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
DallasAg 94
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
Would really like to see "good Griffin" tonight to start the series in Anaheim off... With Lohse pitching tomorrow and Perez on Wednesday this already feels like a series where we'll be lucky to win 2 and I just really hope we get at least 1.
We really need to put some distance between us and Houston.

It is time to help some of these teams realize they should be selling.

Oakland is our friend, right now.
jtstanley4621
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I've said it before and I'll say it again, but if Oakland somehow ends up with Gallo and or Profar, regardless of how good their team becomes in the future those two dudes will murder the Rangers on a regular basis. Doesn't even matter how well they play against the rest of the league.

Baby Billy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Baby Billy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
quote:
Mlb network just had a discussion regarding a trade between the Rangers and Yankees. McCann and Chapman straight up for Gallo and Profar. Would you guys do it? I say hell no but they seem to think the Rangers should do it in a heart beat.


**** no.
jtstanley4621
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
quote:
I too think that it's time to send Mazara down, but I don't think that Gallo has earned a call-up yet. I'd prefer Deshields get the call as he's been playing well of late, specifically with taking walks and getting on base. I also think that his skills are more advantageous to the organization in a bench role.
Speaking of guys who could do with an uptick in performance at the plate, I would like to see Odor exercise some plate discipline. Seems like he's gotten back to swinging at just about everything again.
mhayden
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
Mlb network just had a discussion regarding a trade between the Rangers and Yankees. McCann and Chapman straight up for Gallo and Profar. Would you guys do it? I say hell no but they seem to think the Rangers should do it in a heart beat.

Daniels would laugh them off the phone.

McCann and Chapman for Fielder and Profar might at least pique my interest.
wbt5845
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
quote:
quote:
Mlb network just had a discussion regarding a trade between the Rangers and Yankees. McCann and Chapman straight up for Gallo and Profar. Would you guys do it? I say hell no but they seem to think the Rangers should do it in a heart beat.

Daniels would laugh them off the phone.

McCann and Chapman for Fielder and Profar might at least pique my interest.
Or Fielder and Elvis even - if they take all their contract.
mhayden
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Yeah, only way I have any interest in McCann's contract is if they are paying most of it or are taking on Fielder's.
jtstanley4621
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
quote:
Yeah, only way I have any interest in McCann's contract is if they are paying most of it or are taking on Fielder's.
My god, I would gladly take on a different salary to rid ourselves of Fielder's contract. Still would think that just about any GM would laugh us off the phone if we tried to deal him. Only way we get rid of him is if we eat a huge amount of his contract.
DallasAg 94
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
Mlb network just had a discussion regarding a trade between the Rangers and Yankees. McCann and Chapman straight up for Gallo and Profar. Would you guys do it? I say hell no but they seem to think the Rangers should do it in a heart beat.
So, they think a rental for 2 months (Chapman) and a C batting .244/15HRs is worth two MLB players who have complete team control for the next couple years?!

Of course they do. They need the NYYs to get better and to obtain two players whom many of us believe will be very exciting players to watch. Gallo and Profar will be promoted as All-Stars and marque players if they are with Yankees.

At C we are getting:

.232 \ 13 HRs \ 50 RBI \ .282 OBP \ .416 SLG \ .698 OPS <- Rangers as C
.244 \ 14 HRs \ 39 RBI \ .340 OBP \ .451 SLG \ .792 OPS <- McCann

McCann (32) is also in for $17M this year, '17 (33), and '18 (34) and a $15M team option in 2019 (35). He will be a financial weight for any team he is on.

His past 3 years:
2014: .232 \ 23 HRs
2015: .232 \ 26 HRs
2016: .244 \ 14 HRs

Career .267.

I'll pass on him, even as a salary dump. I wouldn't trade him straight up for Nick Martinez. Getting him would mean no Ian Desmond, I would think.
DallasAg 94
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
quote:
Mlb network just had a discussion regarding a trade between the Rangers and Yankees. McCann and Chapman straight up for Gallo and Profar. Would you guys do it? I say hell no but they seem to think the Rangers should do it in a heart beat.

Daniels would laugh them off the phone.

McCann and Chapman for Fielder and Profar might at least pique my interest.
WOAH... Fielder.

NYY loses Teixeira ($23M this year) & Beltran ($15M this year), after this season. Fielder is just what they need to compliment A-Rod in A-Rod's final year.

Fielder for Chapman. Leave McCann and Profar out.
mhayden
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Except Fielder for Chapman doesn't make any sense whatsoever for New York. It's the baggage on the trade without the prize (Profar).

Yeah, you'd rather trade a prospect for something that helps your team, but in this case you'd be trading your prospect for a shutdown reliever, upgrading your catching situation, clearing out a logjam at 1B, gaining about $25m over the next 4 years (and it's actually closer to $60m+ when you consider what the amount of negative trade value Prince has) and (I believe) gaining a draft pick when Chapman declines the off-season QO.

It's not sexy, but it improves the team in multiple areas and helps correct a significant long-term mistake.

Would never happen, but fun to scattershoot trade ideas.
jtstanley4621
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'm just always hesitant to trade within the AL. Seems like guys come back to haunt us a lot.
wbt5845
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The only reason McCann is being mentioned is because the Yankees want him to be part of any deal.

Chapman is a rent a player - he's worth one prospect, and not a top shelf guy like Profar or Gallo. Hell, I wouldn't give Dillon Tate for him. Eric Jenkins would be ok.
DeangeloVickers
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
At this point I'd trade fielder for Bobby Bonilla and his Mets contract
mhayden
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
The only reason McCann is being mentioned is because the Yankees want him to be part of any deal.

Chapman is a rent a player - he's worth one prospect, and not a top shelf guy like Profar or Gallo. Hell, I wouldn't give Dillon Tate for him. Eric Jenkins would be ok.

Yeah, it all depends on how you look at the #'s. Prince's actual value over the next 4 years is looking like it's maybe $24m or so ($6m/year), and that's assuming a bounceback to at the very least "not ****".

So if you can save $12m/year over the next 4 years... Let's say that signs you an Ian Desmond.

Would you trade Jurickson Profar (post-ASB2016 -> 2019) for Ian Desmond (2017-2020)?
MooreTrucker
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
From TheScore:

Texas Rangers general manager Jon Daniels is expected to be one of the most active executives leading up to the non-waiver trade deadline.

Eager to add to his pitching staff, Daniels has cast a wide net that includes starters and relievers from both the American and National League.

The Rangers have been involved in ongoing talks regarding Tampa Bay Rays starter Matt Moore, but now comes word the teams have also talked about fellow starters Drew Smyly and Jake Odorizzi, but Chris Archer has not been discussed, T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com reported Sunday.

Daniels has also been targeting San Diego Padres right-hander Andrew Cashner, according to Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, who notes New York Yankees All-Star reliever Andrew Miller is on the radar. It's believed the Rangers' priority is addressing the rotation first.
COOL LASER FALCON
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Man, being a GM would be simultaneously the greatest and worst job of all time.
jtstanley4621
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
quote:
Man, being a GM would be simultaneously the greatest and worst job of all time.
So stressful. There is so much luck involved in virtually every sports decision.
DallasAg 94
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
Yeah, you'd rather trade a prospect for something that helps your team, but in this case you'd be trading your prospect for a shutdown reliever,
Agreed.

quote:
upgrading your catching situation, clearing out a logjam at 1B, gaining about $25m over the next 4 years (and it's actually closer to $60m+ when you consider what the amount of negative trade value Prince has) and (I believe) gaining a draft pick when Chapman declines the off-season QO.
I don't think it upgrades things significantly. Marginally, at best this season and an anchor long-term.
It does clear the logjam at 1B, assuming McCann doesn't end up becoming a 1B\DH. He is old with lots of miles for a catcher. I think this is speculation on both opinions.

At 1B, the logjam goes away when Moreland ends this season. Next season we only have Fielder (1B\DH) and Gallo. Rua and Profar as options.

I don't see the benefit on the financial side. We owe Fielder $18X4 = $72M. McCann is owed $17X2 + $15M. So the net:
2017: $1M
2018: $1M
2019: $3M
2020: $18M

So almost all of that benefit is in 2020. Four years from now. $1-3M is Cesar Ramos money.

I thought he had to be on the roster by the start of the season to get the QO benefit.

quote:
It's not sexy, but it improves the team in multiple areas and helps correct a significant long-term mistake.

I disagree on both accounts. It helps neither the team, nor financial side of things.

quote:
Would never happen, but fun to scattershoot trade ideas.

It is always fun to scattershoot.

Personally, I have more hope about a Fielder turnaround, than I have confidence McCann will be an upgrade 2... 3... 4 years from now. Fielder hit .305 last year.
Mr. White
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I'm always nervous about getting an NL pitcher. Hamels is the exception to the rule.
Mr Gigem
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
quote:
I'm always nervous about getting an NL pitcher. Hamels is the exception to the rule.
What about Dyson and Diekman? Or are you just referring to SP?
Ag2012
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
quote:
quote:
I'm always nervous about getting an NL pitcher. Hamels is the exception to the rule.
What about Dyson and Diekman? Or are you just referring to SP?
Cliff Lee worked out pretty well too.
wbt5845
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
When looking at NL pitchers, you just have to remember their stats are a bit skewed.
Mr Gigem
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
quote:
quote:
quote:
I'm always nervous about getting an NL pitcher. Hamels is the exception to the rule.
What about Dyson and Diekman? Or are you just referring to SP?
Cliff Lee worked out pretty well too.
Nolan Ryan, too
Mr Gigem
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I think DallasAg should buy some season tickets
hawk1689
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Cliff Lee was an American league pitcher at the time and for most of his career.
Baby Billy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Let's try to avoid another Garza/Dempster type deal. Giving up valuable prospects for **** results
Baby Billy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Profar SS
Desmond CF
Odor 2B
Beltre 3B
Fat **** DH
Rua LF
Moreland 1B
Mazara RF
Wilson C

Griffin P
gigem1223
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Resting Andrus, one of our hottest hitters, In a divisional game just 3 games after the all-star break?
jtstanley4621
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Odor hitting 3rd? Do we want a couple more one pitch ABs or three pitch strikeouts?
gigem1223
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Andrus
Profar
Desmond
Beltre
Mazara
Rua
Odor
Moreland
Wilson




My opinion on what should be the line up today
Baby Billy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Agreed
Mr. White
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
quote:
I'm always nervous about getting an NL pitcher. Hamels is the exception to the rule.
What about Dyson and Diekman? Or are you just referring to SP?


SPs

Dempster
Garza
Park
etc

Nervous about Cashner
First Page Last Page
Page 290 of 555
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.