*****Official Texas Rangers 2016 Season Thread*****

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It's incredible how much of a difference there is between a AAA pitcher and a major league pitcher

Martinez is nowhere near major league ready.


He's just not a major league pitcher. It's not as if he's throwing 98 and not hitting his spots. He's just not good and doesn't have command.
He's effective enough when he hits his spots, though. He was last year and was in the minor leagues according to things I've read.



I'm still waiting for DallasAg to call you all stupid.
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As bad as that send was, a better slide could've scored there.
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That guy's breaking ball is nasty...
Mr Gigem
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This guys pitch count is at 75 in the 4th inning and instead of increasing that pitch count, we do something dumb like that
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I don't know what it is about Pedroia, but he makes me want to punch a baby
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Throw some ****ing strikes.
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Martinez is going to need to see Fielder's chiro after this game due to whiplash
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I'm skeptical about Pomeranz and while I think there is interest, JD doesn't seem like one to take a risk on a player like Pomeranz. His success as a SP is limited. I think I saw Newburg threw out the cost being Brinson + Cordell?! Two potential Rule V guys for a SP?!

The Rangers aren't going to let those guys get picked in the Rule V draft if they're still in the organization and there will be room. Those are some of their best prospects.
I agree they won't expose Brinson (which is why I said he was interesting), but I don't see how they protect Cordell. I believe if he isn't in a trade package, he'll be lost in the Rule V.

Rangers have 4 on the DL60:
Keona, Colby, Scheppers, Stubbs.
There are 3 that will come off the DL60, and you will have to dump 3 players.

They lost Odubel Herrerra, last year.

Colby, Moreland and Desmond are FAs,
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Good God please stop walking people
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Watching Martinez right now is painful
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Maybe on Cordell, but the roster will look wildly different by December.

I know stats are only half the story with a minor leaguer, but he's leading Frisco in pretty much every category. 2Bs, 3Bs, HRs, SB, BBs, SLG %, OPS, etc.

He seems like one of the natural choices to slide into one of the spots that will be left after guys get released, head towards free agency, see their contracts end, etc.

We'll see. We won't know anything for sure until December.
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If I'm putting an outfielder in a trade package because its hard to see where he fits into the organization in the future, I'm looking for someone to take Delino Deshields off my hands.
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Can't understand for the life of me why Mazara wouldn't try to beat the huge overshift there by hitting one down the 3rd base line. He's certainly capable of going to the other way
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On another note, I don't see why we don't just give Ramos the Martinez starts. I don't know if he's markedly better, but he can't be much worse.
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Can't understand for the life of me why Mazara wouldn't try to beat the huge overshift there by hitting one down the 3rd base line. He's certainly capable of going to the other way
Gotta have some pitches to send the other way.

Breaking ball inside, breaking ball low and inside, and then another breaking ball.

3rd pitch was "pushable" but he got on top of it. Wasn't going anywhere with it. Hard to push breaking balls, in the first place.
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If I'm putting an outfielder in a trade package because its hard to see where he fits into the organization in the future, I'm looking for someone to take Delino Deshields off my hands.
Absolutely.
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Then whose your long man out of the pen? We get it, Martinez wasn't good today but he was facing the best lineup in baseball and is only down a run.
DallasAg 94
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On another note, I don't see why we don't just give Ramos the Martinez starts. I don't know if he's markedly better, but he can't be much worse.
Who would fill the long-reliever?

Ramos is 32 and more flexible in his role (as Feldman was). I don't know that you'd want Martinez or Chi Chi in that role.
TXAggie2011
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On another note, I don't see why we don't just give Ramos the Martinez starts. I don't know if he's markedly better, but he can't be much worse.
Well, maybe.

But Martinez is starting in part because of Ramos' start in Oakland a few weeks ago made it evident why Ramos failed as a starter in the minor leagues and no one's been overly willing to let him start MLB games.

And after the great boondoggle in Minnesota, Ramos probably isn't in the Rangers' good graces right now.


And what they said about the bullpen.
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Maybe on Cordell, but the roster will look wildly different by December.

I know stats are only half the story with a minor leaguer, but he's leading Frisco in pretty much every category. 2Bs, 3Bs, HRs, SB, BBs, SLG %, OPS, etc.

He seems like one of the natural choices to slide into one of the spots that will be left after guys get released, head towards free agency, see their contracts end, etc.

We'll see. We won't know anything for sure until December.
Agreed on most accounts.

I think Cordell has elevated his value in the organization. However, his SO totals are still alarming. That was what Brinson and Mazara had to work on. That is one reason I think Cordell is still another season away.

All could change by December.
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Agreed on most accounts.
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Man, two hits this inning on pitches a foot below the zone.
DallasAg 94
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Its the kindler gentler DallasAg 94, or the 4th of July.
TXAggie2011
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And I don't think Cordell is ready for the big league yet but he can finish the year at AA. Slide onto the 40 man and go to MLB camp and Round Rock and if he's doing alright, he can spend some time with the big club next August and September.

Trade him if you get talent in return that will help the club, for sure, but I personally am not letting him getting away for not enough in return just because I have to stick him on the 40 man roster. I hope that makes sense.
DallasAg 94
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And I don't think Cordell is ready for the big league yet but he can finish the year at AA. Slide onto the 40 man and go to MLB camp and Round Rock and if he's doing alright, he can spend some time with the big club next August and September.

Trade him if you get talent in return that will help the club, for sure, but I personally am not letting him getting away for not enough in return just because I have to stick him on the 40 man roster. I hope that makes sense.
OMG... what is this ... a love-fest?!

LOL.
Seven Costanza
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12 hits and 4 walks, but only 6 runs given up. It could be worse.
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Anyone hoping we get Lucroy so we don't have to see Chirinos swing and miss nearly as much?
gigem1223
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Mazara looking like a little leaguer in left today
gigem1223
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I'd settle for more Wilson and Holaday
gigem1223
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This team is dinged up and in a funk. I'd consider it a win to finish the remaining games at .500 and regroup after the all star break.
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Desmond
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Anyone hoping we get Lucroy so we don't have to see Chirinos swing and miss nearly as much?


I just want a pitcher or fifteen at this point.
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And we are handicapping ourselves by holding on to Holiday. He won't clear waivers, but it's not as though there aren't 20 other guys just like him that could be had for a bag of balls and a cold miller lite.
DallasAg 94
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Calling a Fielder HR
DallasAg 94
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And we are handicapping ourselves by holding on to Holiday. He won't clear waivers, but it's not as though there aren't 20 other guys just like him that could be had for a bag of balls and a cold miller lite.
I think at this time in the season, he is someone you could include in a package, rather than letting him walk.
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