Getting punked all fourth by Sengun while Tarris Reed sat in street clothes.

Mitch you dumb sob

It's like these guys didn't work on anything new in the offseason. Still early but so far this looks clunky.

victor got pushed around all night by Sengun and then got blocked by thompson at the end. that is completely unacceptable. the "no friends" in the league and philosophical answer schtick is getting old fast

The philosophical nonsense from Mitch is the kind of things you say when you have no answers.

Like back when Buzz was here.

We haven't led for a single quarter this season. Obviously it's early but not ideal to spot the Thunder an early 2 game lead.

We did little to improve our 3 pt shooting this off-season so no surprise it remains our biggest weakness. With Harris out the bench remains a big negative to start the year when it should be one of the strongest in the league at least on paper.

Defense has been quite a bit worse than expected and definitely worse than last year. Sweeny may prove to be a big loss.

We had a lineup last year that was good enough to make the finals (Wemby, Fox, Castle, Vassell and Champ) yet we rarely played that lineup through these two losses.

I get you need to experiment with things like the 3 guard lineup, but I would rather have won these first big games against good competition and kept the experiments for the weaker teams across a long schedule. To start the experiment right out of the gate is odd to me.

Offense has been completely inconsistent but with the odd rotations I can see why it struggles.

Long season so plenty of time to get on track.

Jeremy Sochan, who won an NBA title with the Knicks after starring at Baylor, was the No. 1 pick of the Texas Legends in the G League Draft pic.twitter.com/0v2jRGasnI

— Adam Zagoria (@AdamZagoria) October 24, 2026

Let's bust the slump!

Dazn wont even let me watch the game. Wtf?

where is our defense from last year

Kornet can't defend, score, or rebound. Can we please see some Reed?

Reed already significantly better.

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Reed already significantly better.

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Almost like we'd have at least one more win if you gave him all of Barnes minutes and half of Kornets. (Okay, all)

We aren't going 0-82!!!! Let's goooooooo

Jalen Williams has suffered a serious ankle injury, and they are bringing out the stretcher

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— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) October 26, 2026

Yuck, that's his season.

MY god that's awful.

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MY god that's awful.

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Incredibly. Hate seeing guys get injured.

That sucks…..you can see the disbelief on the teammates faces too. Man.

Jalen Suggs too.

Jalen Suggs is down in serious pain after this play

Prayers up. 🙏 pic.twitter.com/i0l1mkwM6b

— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) October 26, 2026

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That sucks…..you can see the disbelief on the teammates faces too. Man.

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There are a couple videos you can find that are way worse. Joe Theismann-like stuff. Ick.

Man both those injuries are brutal but stuff like a leg breaking and pointing the wrong way like that make me wanna throw up. Just awful.

Wild. Jalin's got about a year of physical therapy ahead after surgery.

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Wild. Jalin's got about a year of physical therapy ahead after surgery.

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The sports doc guy said it is possible, but unlikely to be just a dislocation. More likely that it is a dislocation+fracture with ligament tears similar to what happened to Gordon Hayward that completely changed his career in Boston.



Rewatching the Hayward injury, looks pretty identical. Sucks. JDub is easily the most likable guy on the Thunder.

Definitely sub-optimal production by the bench.

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Definitely sub-optimal production by the bench.

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Reed has to be on the court when Wemby is off. I know it was the Mavs, but the difference was night and day between him and Kornet. That leaves potential for Wemby-Kornet or Reed-Kornet combos, too. You also have to have either Harper or Fox on the floor with the 'second team'. Shorten up rotations. Don't make huge substitutions if you don't have to.

I'm not expert by any means, but I think these are the things we should be more focused on. Especially if we're going to force this three guard lineup to start.

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The 4 guard lineup is stupid for a lot of reasons, but what's pissed me off the most is that Vassell has become a complete afterthought in the offense. We are at our best when he is hot since he can score from all 3 levels, and he's getting almost no chances to get in a rhythm. I would rather Juju start over him if we are insistent on this 3 PG thing, which also unlocks Julian bc his whole career he's been better with the starters than with the reserves. Dev off the bench would give him the room to heat up a little more.

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Agreed. Vassell was by far one of our best and most consistent players in all phases last season. Especially down the stretch. Him and Fox are the only really consistent shots at the mid range. Which is what we need while Wemby is on the floor.

I think no matter how you slice it we're just not balanced enough in this new look when they're on the floor and have too many holes when they are all off the floor.

If you are going to force this lineup to start then take Fox out at the 8ish minute mark and bring Champ in. Being Fox back in to give us someone to run the offense more efficiently and give us a scoring threat when we have the bench guys in.

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Definitely sub-optimal production by the bench.

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Reed has to be on the court when Wemby is off. I know it was the Mavs, but the difference was night and day between him and Kornet. That leaves potential for Wemby-Kornet or Reed-Kornet combos, too. You also have to have either Harper or Fox on the floor with the 'second team'. Shorten up rotations. Don't make huge substitutions if you don't have to.

I'm not expert by any means, but I think these are the things we should be more focused on. Especially if we're going to force this three guard lineup to start.

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I think Spurs fans in general are putting the cart before the horse with Reed. He has a lot going for him, but rookies drafted outside the top 25 basically never are impact players as rookies on championship teams. Reed is probably more capable than Kornet defending outside 10' and may be a better rebounder, but he is also going to make rookie mistakes and probably won't be as good of an interior defender. His size/strength advantage will be useful in a lot of matchups, but I wouldn't count on him as a core rotation member just yet.

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Definitely sub-optimal production by the bench.

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Reed has to be on the court when Wemby is off. I know it was the Mavs, but the difference was night and day between him and Kornet. That leaves potential for Wemby-Kornet or Reed-Kornet combos, too. You also have to have either Harper or Fox on the floor with the 'second team'. Shorten up rotations. Don't make huge substitutions if you don't have to.

I'm not expert by any means, but I think these are the things we should be more focused on. Especially if we're going to force this three guard lineup to start.

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I think Spurs fans in general are putting the cart before the horse with Reed. He has a lot going for him, but rookies drafted outside the top 25 basically never are impact players as rookies on championship teams. Reed is probably more capable than Kornet defending outside 10' and may be a better rebounder, but he is also going to make rookie mistakes and probably won't be as good of an interior defender. His size/strength advantage will be useful in a lot of matchups, but I wouldn't count on him as a core rotation member just yet.

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I'm not looking for Reed to be an impact player. I'm looking for him to be better than Kornet, which was absolutely the case the other night. Kornet was SLOW on every rotation and closeout, couldn't grab a rebound to save his life, and wasn't any threat to score.

Obviously it's early and he's had one game off the bench. This is also definitely more about Kornet getting old and slow and Reed being young and more athletic. Rookie mistakes will happen, but all we need from him is to be the beast he is on the boards and athletic enough on defense to not be an open basket constantly.

Yall realize this is a work in progress right? Its an untraditionable lineup but we have to try it for a while to see if it can work. Plus Tobias will be the starting 4 when hes back healthy. This will look totally different.

It's just a dumb rotation. I'm all for experiments early in the season but to roll it out right out of the gate and get 10% of last year's total losses in 2 games is an odd decision when you can run the exact same starters out that made it to the finals. A few minutes here and there would have been a much smarter approach.

I also think it's limited even if successful. We likely need to overcome the Thunder and the Knicks to win it all. They bullied us with their size and wore us out with their bench depth. We aren't going to run Hart, Town and OG off the floors with this lineup.

At best it might be a scoring juggernaut against smaller teams, but it will have legitimate defensive and rebounding issues that make it unviable for long stretches against the elite competition. Secondarily it significantly weakens our bench as we have seen to start the year.

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Definitely sub-optimal production by the bench.

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Reed has to be on the court when Wemby is off. I know it was the Mavs, but the difference was night and day between him and Kornet. That leaves potential for Wemby-Kornet or Reed-Kornet combos, too. You also have to have either Harper or Fox on the floor with the 'second team'. Shorten up rotations. Don't make huge substitutions if you don't have to.

I'm not expert by any means, but I think these are the things we should be more focused on. Especially if we're going to force this three guard lineup to start.

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I think Spurs fans in general are putting the cart before the horse with Reed. He has a lot going for him, but rookies drafted outside the top 25 basically never are impact players as rookies on championship teams. Reed is probably more capable than Kornet defending outside 10' and may be a better rebounder, but he is also going to make rookie mistakes and probably won't be as good of an interior defender. His size/strength advantage will be useful in a lot of matchups, but I wouldn't count on him as a core rotation member just yet.

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I'm not looking for Reed to be an impact player. I'm looking for him to be better than Kornet, which was absolutely the case the other night. Kornet was SLOW on every rotation and closeout, couldn't grab a rebound to save his life, and wasn't any threat to score.

Obviously it's early and he's had one game off the bench. This is also definitely more about Kornet getting old and slow and Reed being young and more athletic. Rookie mistakes will happen, but all we need from him is to be the beast he is on the boards and athletic enough on defense to not be an open basket constantly.

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If he's taking significant minutes away from Kornet as our backup to Wemby, we are counting on him to be an impact rotational player. It's just extremely unlikely. He's played 8 minutes this season and it was against a team that is likely maxing out at .500 without their best player in that game. Kornet's interior defense is still good, but he was never good when drawn outside of 10'. I would love for Reed to develop into an impact player off the bench right away, but I would temper your expectations. Reed obviously has strength and agility marks that Kornet didnt even have at Vanderbilt.

I believe the ONLY rookie in the history of the NBA drafted outside the top 25 to play a significant role (say over 15mpg in playoffs) on a championship team was 25yo Manu Ginobili.

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It's just a dumb rotation. I'm all for experiments early in the season but to roll it out right out of the gate and get 10% of last year's total losses in 2 games is an odd decision when you can run the exact same starters out that made it to the finals. A few minutes here and there would have been a much smarter approach.

I also think it's limited even if successful. We likely need to overcome the Thunder and the Knicks to win it all. They bullied us with their size and wore us out with their bench depth. We aren't going to run Hart, Town and OG off the floors with this lineup.

At best it might be a scoring juggernaut against smaller teams, but it will have legitimate defensive and rebounding issues that make it unviable for long stretches against the elite competition. Secondarily it significantly weakens our bench as we have seen to start the year.

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We are 2nd in the NBA in wide open shots generated and 20th in the NBA in 3pt shooting at just under 32%. Teams will continue to pack the paint and dare us to shoot until we prove to them they can't do that. Fox, Castle, and Julian are the only players making better than 33%. League average is 34%.

I'm totally out on the Wemby+4 guard lineup for a number of reasons, but we also need to hit our shots. At least when Tobi comes back, we have another player that can create their own shot. Our weak spot last year was PF and I think we addressed that as best we possibly could with Tobias, but I think starting Vassell there exasperates the problem and creates the empty bench problem at the same time.