***********2024-2025 San Antonio Spurs Thread********************

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After reading more up on Queen, I'm in on him. I think if our picks stay as mid to late lottery, you take Queen and Fleming and hope that at least one of them has the motor and shooting to be that complementary piece to Wemby in the frontcourt.

Queen is a decent passer and honestly way more mobile than I thought he was. The game winner against CSU really displays what could be potential even as a slashing big if he keeps improving his body control.



He's good with the ball, has a decent handle and seems to have a good feel for passing. The downside to me is that he's not an explosive leaper and athlete, but as we've seen with guys like Luka and Jokic, (not saying he's them) explosive athleticism isn't necessarily required on offense to dominate. On our team specifically, Wemby already can defend the paint and make up for the shortcomings of others. If Queen turns into a great offensive player then you can hide some of his limitations with what might be limited length and leaping on defense.

Also worth noting he averaged more than 9 boards a game, so even if there are questions about defensive motor and length, he should help make us a better rebounding team.

Bottom line, I don't see any advantage to adding any more 6'5'' to 6'7'' wings to this team unless they are clear upgrades over what we have so you take the best bigs available and hope you've got the staff to develop them.

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AggieEP said:

After reading more up on Queen, I'm in on him. I think if our picks stay as mid to late lottery, you take Queen and Fleming and hope that at least one of them has the motor and shooting to be that complementary piece to Wemby in the frontcourt.


I'm all in on Fleming and all out on Queen. You mention the motor, and honestly that is one of Queen's biggest problems. If you watch his entire games, he constantly just doesn't hustle or get back on defense.



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Queen is a decent passer and honestly way more mobile than I thought he was. The game winner against CSU really displays what could be potential even as a slashing big if he keeps improving his body control.

He's good with the ball, has a decent handle and seems to have a good feel for passing.

He could have some Boris Diaw qualities on offense. Has really nice footwork, passes well, really nice hands, but he lacks quickness, and explosiveness.


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The downside to me is that he's not an explosive leaper and athlete, but as we've seen with guys like Luka and Jokic, (not saying he's them) explosive athleticism isn't necessarily required on offense to dominate.
I don't think he has anywhere near the BBIQ of those guys, and they are extremely unique players.



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On our team specifically, Wemby already can defend the paint and make up for the shortcomings of others.
Wemby can't make up for the fact that Queen is awful as a rim protector and awful as a perimeter defender. Defensively, there is not a single place you can hide him on the court. We need to improve on both sides of the ball. If you replace Barnes with Queen, you are getting worse defensively and you are losing the best shooter on the team. We get flat out worse. This is the same time of argument that people were making when they were justifying Trae Young. "It doesn't matter that he is a complete black hole and will be hunted relentlessly on defense, Wemby's in the paint!"



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If Queen turns into a great offensive player then you can hide some of his limitations with what might be limited length and leaping on defense.

That's a BIG if. I think Queen has a lot of good qualities, but it is an awful fit. He can't shoot, so he won't spread the floor. He is a negative defender all over. He has motor problems where he just doesn't hustle or get back down the court.



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Also worth noting he averaged more than 9 boards a game, so even if there are questions about defensive motor and length, he should help make us a better rebounding team.


Also worth noting that in the Florida game in the tournament, he had just 5 rebounds and Florida had over double the rebounds of Maryland. In fact, Florida almost had as many offensive rebounds as Maryland had total rebounds (15 vs 20.) His lack of rebounding, verticality, and athleticism was a major factor in Maryland getting bounced by the Gators. His nice hands and touch is the only thing that kept Maryland in.


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Bottom line, I don't see any advantage to adding any more 6'5'' to 6'7'' wings to this team unless they are clear upgrades over what we have so you take the best bigs available and hope you've got the staff to develop them.
I think that taking a guy that is a massive negative defensive issues with clear motor problems is not the right way to improve the team. He's not going to spread the floor out - he's going to take touches away from Wemby in the Paint. How do you clear space for the Fox PnR or Fox middy when Queen is in there taking up space?

Do you pull Sochan out to put in Queen? Now you are down your second best perimeter defender.

Bottom line is his footwork and touch are really good and probably the best in the class for a center. But he is not a PF and his defense is awful everywhere. He doesn't have the length or verticality to be a rim protector as a backup and he can't guard anyone on the perimeter so you can leave Wemby in at rim protection. He has no place on this team defensively.

Offensively, he can probably grow into being somewhat of a high post hub, if he puts in the work. He has the passing vision and footwork. But doing that takes the ball out of the hands of Fox, Castle, and Wemby. Why would you draft a center that can't space the floor and needs the ball in his hands to be effective to play next to Wemby? That just does not make any sense at all to me. We gave up a ton of assets to get Fox, Queen just doesn't fit with that team development plan. We need to be able to space the floor out around Fox or Castle as the primary initiator. Fox and Castle aren't going to space the floor out around a high post two man game of Queen and Wemby.

Queen has a lot of dazzling moves, but the fit on both sides of the ball just does not make any sense at all.
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Every team in the NBA wants dudes that are 6'7"+, can knock down 3s, and switch on defense. The fact is that not many of those guys exist. The Thunder when healthy start 3 dudes that are 6'6" and under, and due to injuries have started a lot of games with 4 guys that size or smaller. What makes it work for them is that they can all shoot and space the floor, which forces other teams to matchup to their small ball, rather than the other way around. The Celtics do the same thing but are longer on the wing, but smaller at center. The Warriors have been a top team for years now and have been using undersized Kevon Looney and Draymond as their centers.

All that to say, the Spurs need shooting to improve our spacing, that can be at least passable defenders. Sochan and Castle (who I think will continue to improve as a shooter) make the need for elite defensive players much less for us. I think guys like Knueppel, Tre Johnson, Liam McNeely are better fits for us than guys like Queen or Collin Murray-Boyles that are big time projects when it comes to shooting.
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I think our second biggest need is another rim protector and rebounder. I could definitely be down with taking a big man with our second pick in this draft, although it could be addressed in free agency as well. Obviously Maluach is the best big man prospect in this draft, but will probably be gone before our second pick comes up. After that I really like Thomas Sorber from Georgetown. Injury cost him the last part of his season, but he's got a lot to really like about his game on both sides. He had a bigger block % than Maluach and was much more of a focal point of his team's offense. He's not much of an outside shooter right now, but his shot looks good like he could develop into pick and pop threat.
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West Texan said:

I think our second biggest need is another rim protector and rebounder. I could definitely be down with taking a big man with our second pick in this draft, although it could be addressed in free agency as well. Obviously Maluach is the best big man prospect in this draft, but will probably be gone before our second pick comes up. After that I really like Thomas Sorber from Georgetown. Injury cost him the last part of his season, but he's got a lot to really like about his game on both sides. He had a bigger block % than Maluach and was much more of a focal point of his team's offense. He's not much of an outside shooter right now, but his shot looks good like he could develop into pick and pop threat.
I like Thomas Sorber with the 16th pick if Rasheer Fleming is gone. I do think Fleming could play small ball center, some, but I think we use our MLE on a backup center. Luke Kornet, Clint Capela, or Kevon Looney would all work perfectly and in that price range.

If CP3 agrees to come back for the Non-Bird Exception with a 15mpg role, that solves backup point as we would have Fox, Castle, Paul, and Wesley. Then try to get best player possible with the BAE that fills needs at shooter/forward or 3rd string center. Otherwise, we probably need to use the BAE on that backup point.

I like Malauch (other than last night when he had 0 rebounds somehow) but I don't think he is playable with Wemby and I think he is not going to be happy in that 15-20mpg role behind Wemby. I think he will come right out and be a 25mpg guy and effect games at least as good as Lively did in Dallas. But I think that he very well could be drafted by Toronto so they can run a Poeltl/Malauch 25mpg each rotation at center. And since Jakob has missed ~30 games each of the last couple years, that should extend his career, too.
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Guitarsoup said:

West Texan said:

I think our second biggest need is another rim protector and rebounder. I could definitely be down with taking a big man with our second pick in this draft, although it could be addressed in free agency as well. Obviously Maluach is the best big man prospect in this draft, but will probably be gone before our second pick comes up. After that I really like Thomas Sorber from Georgetown. Injury cost him the last part of his season, but he's got a lot to really like about his game on both sides. He had a bigger block % than Maluach and was much more of a focal point of his team's offense. He's not much of an outside shooter right now, but his shot looks good like he could develop into pick and pop threat.
I like Thomas Sorber with the 16th pick if Rasheer Fleming is gone. I do think Fleming could play small ball center, some, but I think we use our MLE on a backup center. Luke Kornet, Clint Capela, or Kevon Looney would all work perfectly and in that price range.

If CP3 agrees to come back for the Non-Bird Exception with a 15mpg role, that solves backup point as we would have Fox, Castle, Paul, and Wesley. Then try to get best player possible with the BAE that fills needs at shooter/forward or 3rd string center. Otherwise, we probably need to use the BAE on that backup point.

I like Malauch (other than last night when he had 0 rebounds somehow) but I don't think he is playable with Wemby and I think he is not going to be happy in that 15-20mpg role behind Wemby. I think he will come right out and be a 25mpg guy and effect games at least as good as Lively did in Dallas. But I think that he very well could be drafted by Toronto so they can run a Poeltl/Malauch 25mpg each rotation at center. And since Jakob has missed ~30 games each of the last couple years, that should extend his career, too.


Asa Newell is another interesting big prospect. Moved his feet better and is much more switchable on the perimeter. Also has some potential for stretching the floor.

I like Fleming's motor and defensive versatility a lot. Really gets after it on that end and rebounds really well. Very limited offensively outside of catch and shoot or as a roll man. Doesn't handle it well and not much of a passer. Obviously he wouldn't be asked to be the man on offense, but it would be nice if he had better play making instincts.
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Hey soup, since you're our resident cap expert; what does our cap space/roster situation look like this offseason since we made the trade for Fox?
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West Texan said:

Hey soup, since you're our resident cap expert; what does our cap space/roster situation look like this offseason since we made the trade for Fox?
Just real quick is we won't have actual cap space. We will have the full mid level exception (~13M can split, can accept players on trade), the bi-annual exception (~6M), and exceptions to sign our picks. We also have Non-Bird Rights on Paul, so we could give him a slight bump up in pay to stay as backup.

But we will act as over the cap, can bring in a couple FAs and our rookies. I'll do a longer one later.
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Guitarsoup said:

West Texan said:

Hey soup, since you're our resident cap expert; what does our cap space/roster situation look like this offseason since we made the trade for Fox?
Just real quick is we won't have actual cap space. We will have the full mid level exception (~13M can split, can accept players on trade), the bi-annual exception (~6M), and exceptions to sign our picks. We also have Non-Bird Rights on Paul, so we could give him a slight bump up in pay to stay as backup.

But we will act as over the cap, can bring in a couple FAs and our rookies. I'll do a longer one later.


Gracias
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NP.

Chris Paul will be the first domino to fall. We can give him a 120% extension with the non-bird rights. That's $12M next year. But we can really only offer him ~15mpg. Does he want to stay or does he want to ring chase, or does he want a bigger role or does he want to go home.

He could go sign with the Lakers to be Luka's backup and go home.

He could probably get the starting gig in Dallas (Kyrie injured) or Miami. Either team may draft Jeremiah Fears or LaBaron Philon and want Paul to mentor in the starting role on a decent team.

Unless we use that 1st pick on Khaman Malauch, I think the Spurs use the MLE on a big. Kevon Looney, Clint Capela or Luke Kornet. Kornet is my favorite of the three and he is from Texas. If the Spurs gave Kornet a 4y descending contract starting at 10M, Boston would have to pay $90M in taxes to match. That is before they resign Hortford or do anything else. Do they want to pay $100M to have Kornet for one year?

We also need to fill backup PG if Paul walks. That may be done in the draft depending on how things fall. I do like Jase Richardson, despite his size. Davion Mitchell is a RFA, but will probably cost more than our BAE. He would be absolutely ideal. Ty Jerome will be a UFA, but again I think too expensive. Then there is always old reliable: Tre Jones. I think Tre makes perfect sense for the money we have and the role we need.

Then we need the 3rd string center. I'm over Bassey. Maybe bring back Bismack Biyumbo. Maybe find someone else. Hope we can use the 2nd rounder on a guy like Beringer, Kalkbrenner or Maxime Raynaud and use them as a two-way initially.

So a lot will depend on what two firsts we get and if CP3 stays.

Outgoing: CP3, Bassey, Mamu, Biyombo, McLaughlin (5 open roster spots)


8th pick: Kon Knueppel
13th? pick: Rasheer Fleming
38th pick: Ryan Kalkbrenner (two-way)
MLE: Luke Kornet, Clint Capela, or Kevon Looney - I think Kornet is likely
BAE: Davion Mitchell, Ty Jerome (both likely too expensive) or Tre Jones - I think Tre Jones is likey
Min: Biyombo

C: Wemby - Kornet - Biyombo - Kalkbrenner (two-way)
PF: Barnes - Fleming - Champagnie
SF: Sochan - Knueppel - Keldon
SG: Vassell - Castle - Branham
PG: Fox - Jones - Wesley

I think something like that makes sense. Castle may start over Devin, but we need shooting. Still need some size, but Fleming and Kornet would be the right direction there. And hey, maybe we end up with that Duke kid from Maine.
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Chicago won, Toronto won, Blazers won, Spurs lost.

Atlanta won, but gave up 134 points to a Utah team missing Lauri Markkanen, Walker Kessler, John Collins, and Jordan Clarkson.

Starting lineup: Flipkowski - Sensabaugh - Juzang - Collin Sexton - Isaiah Collier

Hawks still one game up on Chicago and two games on Miami (who blew a double digit lead vs Milwaukee to lose in OT last night.) Hawks are behind Dallas and Sacramento.

Spurs are 2.5 back from Toronto and 2.5 up on Portland. So we probably stay at 8th.
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I think this is worth a read for extra info on Queen.

https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/college-sports/derik-queen-maryland-nba-draft-prospects-MMW3X4TSNVGT3DB7Y6W3U6DGRY/

No doubt that almost everyone sees some limitations with athleticism, but the talk of his feel for the game makes me want to agree with the author that with time Queen will translate this feel on offense into something productive on defense as well.

Also anyone drawing comps to Diaw, Sabonis and Sengun is a must take for me with the 8th pick. If we put his ceiling as being Sabonis, I think we'd all be excited to take him and hope he reaches that.

The author points out that part of the negativity around Queen right now is that he's not the athlete we expect based on how he looks. The author claims that if he was white and European the focus would be on the basketball IQ and offensive feel and not on his defensive quickness and explosiveness.

Finally, as I've mentioned before, past the top 4, this draft looks like a real crap shoot. So we're splitting hairs here discussing prospects (Kneuppel, Fleming, Malulach, mcNeely, etc.) that are all flawed. I don't think anyone, including NBA scouts have a consensus on how any of these flawed guys are going to translate. My take is that Queen's skill translates.
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I like Queen also, but I have to agree that he doesn't have a high motor. Overall I kind of trust Guitarsoup on this one. Crazy good talent, but he may lack the discipline needed to be a great player.

The more video I watch and I have wasted hours, the more I like Asa Newell. He is 19, and just really green. I know his 3 shot has a low percentage, but he has potential to have a good shot. He has a pretty high BBIQ, and his low post game is great. But he needs to stretch the floor, and the more I watch him, the more I think he could do that as a 4.

I've watched a lot of Spurs players and other NBA players that couldn't hit the backboard on a 3, and over they years they developed a solid 3 percentage.

Doesn't matter too much, but I like Newell's left handed shot. Just a different look down low for the defense. Plus I like his height and length at his age, 19. He may even grow another inch or two. We need size in the worst way. So tired of giving up offensive rebounds and letting teams have 3 or 4 shots at the basket.

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No doubt that almost everyone sees some limitations with athleticism, but the talk of his feel for the game makes me want to agree with the author that with time Queen will translate this feel on offense into something productive on defense as well.


The feel is intriguing, but the negatives outweigh positives. In his two biggest games of the season (Florida and Michigan) he absolutely disappeared on the glass/defense. I think he has a huge negatives defensively, on work ethic/hustle, athleticism/size, and shooting. Those negatives outweigh the positives for me.




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Also anyone drawing comps to Diaw, Sabonis and Sengun is a must take for me with the 8th pick. If we put his ceiling as being Sabonis, I think we'd all be excited to take him and hope he reaches that.

He would be on my list with the Hawks pick, but I wouldn't take him top ten. I have work ethic concerns with him due to his lack of hustle, his refusing to rotate, and his general chubbiness as a basketball player. I don't think his ceiling is Sabonis, as Sabonis is a much more complete player. He is much more physical, strong, and intelligent.


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The author points out that part of the negativity around Queen right now is that he's not the athlete we expect based on how he looks. The author claims that if he was white and European the focus would be on the basketball IQ and offensive feel and not on his defensive quickness and explosiveness.


Maybe. The most intriguing thing about him is his passing and footwork. And it is very intriguing. But Thomas Sorber at Georgetown averaged more assists per game than Queen did. 1.9 to 2.4. Sorber also was a dominating rim protector (2.0bpg and 1.5spg) and has the ability to face up or back down. Both have the negatives on shooting, but both have some touch in the mid range.



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Finally, as I've mentioned before, past the top 4, this draft looks like a real crap shoot. So we're splitting hairs here discussing prospects (Kneuppel, Fleming, Malulach, mcNeely, etc.) that are all flawed. I don't think anyone, including NBA scouts have a consensus on how any of these flawed guys are going to translate. My take is that Queen's skill translates.
I think it is more the top two. I think that VJ and and Ace have flaws, too, but I would love the chance to get either.

My take is Queen's negatives far outweigh his positives overall and as far as fit with the team goes. He does have nice touch and footwork. Work ethic and motor mean a lot to me and I don't think Queen has it. Watch entire games and see when he doesn't rotate. Watch when he doesn't hustle back down the court. Maryland was using Julian Reece to be their rim protector more than Queen.

Queen is someone I am going to watch a lot. But I think he has an incredibly low floor. Go look at the Lakers rolling right now and Knecht isn't playing at all because his defense has him benched. I think that will be what we see with Queen. His scoring could overcome that in college, but it won't in the pros. He doesn't have the strength, explosiveness, and verticality to bully around in the pros.

I don't see the Spurs taking a guy that doesn't either understand or just refuses to rotate on defense, just like they didn't with Dillingham.

If we want to take a big with the 2nd pick, I much prefer Sorber. I think he is a more complete player. Similar shooting concerns, but he played great defense. He had 2.0bpg and 1.5spg. Sorber averaged more assists than Queen did 2.4 to 1.9. He has the ability to face up, bully down and knock down middys just like Queen. Sorber is stronger, and I think he is much more explosive. Queen may have a higher ceiling offensively, but I think Sorber is a significantly better two way player.

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/thomas-sorber-a-bully-in-the-middle

I also still like Fleming and think Fleming will be the most ready to come in and help, because D&3 is generally an easier ask/adjustment than PG or rim protector.
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Also, never draft a guy that wears a baggy long sleeve t-shirt under his jersey. Its a bad sign.
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I'll be interested to revisit this analysis in a few years. I think Queen's floor is 10/6/4 as a bench guy and his ceiling is 20/10/6 as a starter offensively.

Defensively we'll leave that as an open question on how much he wants it and if those offensive numbers are just empty stats while he's a sieve.

Knecht isn't a good comp because he's a wing and has to guard other wings and guards. Queen will be asked to do some switching no doubt, but won't be primarily an on ball point of attack defender very often.

Hopefully the lottery balls bounce out way again and we have a chance at either Flagg or Bailey and this discussion in moot though.
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What does the T-shirt have to do with anything?

Guys should play in what they are comfortable in.
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AggieEP said:

I'll be interested to revisit this analysis in a few years. I think Queen's floor is 10/6/4 as a bench guy and his ceiling is 20/10/6 as a starter offensively.


Depends what type of team are you talking about. 20/10 on the Jazz or Wizards is way different than 20/10 on a contending team. We aren't going to pretend like Keldon is a 22/5/3 guy just because he did that on a ****ty team, right?

I think he could fit well next to Sarr on Washington. Wizards have a 53% shot at 5 or 6. Sarr, Queen, Bilal front court. Sarr and Bilal could help cover up his problems and I think Sarr's shot is coming a long a bit so he could space. Then you could give Queen the high usage that could get him numbers. Team won't be that good, but it makes more sense that a lot of locations.

I think his floor is being on the bench because his inability to protect the rim as a center makes him too big of a liability to play.

If he puts up numbers, I think he is going to be a big numbers bad team guy. I don't think he is going to be a high level hub on a 55+ win team.


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Defensively we'll leave that as an open question on how much he wants it and if those offensive numbers are just empty stats while he's a sieve.

Knecht isn't a good comp because he's a wing and has to guard other wings and guards. Queen will be asked to do some switching no doubt, but won't be primarily an on ball point of attack defender very often.

I'm clearly not comparing Knecht's playing style or position. Just the fact that despite his offensive ability and the Lakers need of shooters, he is getting DNP-CDs and <8 min games because his defense makes him unplayable despite his nice shooting (47/37.) Knecht isn't playing as a POA defender at all. Lakers are trying to hide him whenever he is in.

But that is what will happen if we draft Queen and try to play him with Wemby. Queen can't guard on the perimeter, and Queen's defensive fit makes no sense playing next to Wemby.



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Hopefully the lottery balls bounce out way again and we have a chance at either Flagg or Bailey and this discussion in moot though.
I don't think we consider him with the first pick. Maybe with the Hawks pick if we think he is BPA and that we can fix the defensive issues with coaching. There are guys with that dog in them, and I don't think Queen is that guy. That's why teams like Michigan and Florida abused him so bad on the glass and defensively.
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It's tough to say what kind of 20/10/6 I think it will be, it could be a hollow stats counting one for sure, but he could just as easily be the one bright spot on an otherwise bad team.

As you mention, it comes down to desire and coaching. If he wants to be a star and has the desire to improve his game, and we've got the vision on how to put him in the right situations to become that star, then I think he'll be a good pro for a long time.

I want a 3 and D wing or post more than anything. But a big that can facilitate the offense has a lot of value as well. Those guys aren't easy to find or develop, so the Spurs or any other team will have to make a value judgment on the risk reward with a guy like Queen.
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I want a D&3 PF, which is the most unique/rare D&3 archetype, which is why I have Rasheer Fleming so high. He won't be able to create like Queen, but really we need to him to set screens and sit in the corner on offense. On defense he is completely portable and has a reported 7'5 wingspan on a 6'9 240lb frame.

16/9 on 53/39/76 this year with 1.5bpg and 1.5spg.

Would love for him to have better passing but as long as he is willing to make the extra pass, I'm good with a guy that is just there to knock down shots and play much better defense than Barnes. When he can be trusted on both ends, Barnes can become the backup vet forward.

Fleming's fit is just absolutely ideal here.


Compared to OG Anunoby:





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I'm not thrilled about Kon, but I do think the bigger but less quick Desmond Bane outcome could be right. The biggest problem for Kon will be the defense/rebounding, but that isn't why he is there. I don't think his defense will be so bad that he will be unplayable.



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Wemby and Hakeem

Guitarsoup
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Miami won tonight and is 1 win behind Atlanta. Miami has Chicago, Washington and New Orleans left.

Both Miami and Chicago have 1 win fewer than ATL.

Chicago has Cleveland, Miami, Washington, Philadelphia.

Atlanta has two games against Orlando, Brooklyn and Philly.

I think Miami gives the toughest matchup against Atlanta because of Ware/Bam.

We are really going to need a Brooklyn or Philly surprise upset plus both Orlando wins.
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I am just hoping 1 of the 2 pass ATL for the 8 spot so the Hawks have to go 2-0 in the play in to make the playoffs. It seems like one of them will have a good shot at that especially if Orlando can take tonight's home game against Atlanta.
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Any chance Spurs could package a bunch of picks and maybe a player or two for Zion? And would we want to?

I know he his often injured or overweight or just out of service, but I think we would be a contender overnight with him and a 3 & D wing.
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The best of Zion is tantalizing, particularly at the right price. But I just don't trust that guy's health or mentality.
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I think too many red flags to want to make something work. Trey Murphy is the guy on their team I want.
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https://archive.is/9UvC0

new ESPN mock:

Jazz: Flagg
Wiz: Harper
Hornets: Bailey
Pelicans: VJ Edgecombe
76ers: Tre Johnson
Nets: Jeremiah Fears
Raptors: Khaman Malauch
Spurs: Kon Knueppel
Blazers: Kasparas Jakucionis
Rockets: Collin Murray-Boyles
Heat: Derik Queen
Bulls: Egor Demin
Mavs: Liam McNeeley
Hawks (va Sac): Jase Richardson
Spurs (via Hawks): Joan Beringer (way too high, he's fringe 1st)

2nd round Spurs: Johni Broome (Auburn)

Other notable
17: Essengue to Minnesota
20: Carter Bryant to OKC
21: Asa Newell to Orlando
30: Rasheer Fleming to Clippers

Weird draft after 8.
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Nuggets just fired Malone. There will not be this many top tier coaching candidates available for a while…
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AA said:

Nuggets just fired Malone. There will not be this many top tier coaching candidates available for a while…
They are 4th seed, 1 win out of 3rd seed and will reach 50 wins if they win out. Wild.

He was the 4th longest tenured coach, after Pop, Spo and Kerr.
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AA said:

Nuggets just fired Malone. There will not be this many top tier coaching candidates available for a while…

Wild.

And Spurs will likely F this opportunity up because of muh feelings for Pop.
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Tonight's games:

Bulls vs Cavs. Really need a Bulls upset here.

Hawks at Magic. Really need Magic to take care of bidnes.

Spurs have 3 more wins than Toronto and 3 fewer wins than Portland/Phoenix so we are basically locked into 8th worst unless something weird happens.

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FTAG 2000 said:

AA said:

Nuggets just fired Malone. There will not be this many top tier coaching candidates available for a while…

Wild.

And Spurs will likely F this opportunity up because of muh feelings for Pop.
Pop is under contract. If he doesn't retire, you can't fire him.
Enzo The Baker
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Taylor Jenkins as HC with Pop and Malone as assistants, who says no?
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