https://instagr.am/p/DJuM1n5OoRC


Bonus Steph Curry yelling "SLOW!" to get Kyle Anderson's attention

KOC with Cedric Coward:

New mock trade just dropped. Cam makes slightly more (in NBA terms) than Keldon and his contract expires in 26/27 - when the team option can be exercised with Wemby. I'd lean no because those Knicks picks feel useless right now, but like the concept of trading back to fill in depth at the SF position

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New mock trade just dropped. Cam makes slightly more (in NBA terms) than Keldon and his contract expires in 26/27 - when the team option can be exercised with Wemby. I'd lean no because those Knicks picks feel useless right now, but like the concept of trading back to fill in depth at the SF position

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Absolutely not.

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New mock trade just dropped. Cam makes slightly more (in NBA terms) than Keldon and his contract expires in 26/27 - when the team option can be exercised with Wemby. I'd lean no because those Knicks picks feel useless right now, but like the concept of trading back to fill in depth at the SF position

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Those Knicks picks are interesting but I'd bet against any of those assets turning out better than Harper. If we aren't getting a superstar, I just wouldn't do it.

Going through forwards around the league I would be interested in at the right price. I bolded the most interesting ones I saw with a quick look through the teams.

Boston: I'm not going all in for Tatum or Brown

Brooklyn: Cam Johnson. I would do Keldon or maybe Barnes and 14, but I wouldn't go any higher. But rather see if our scouting still works.

Knicks: Obviously Bridges or OG, but not paying their cost.

76ers: #2 for Lonnie Walker, who says no?

Raptors: Scottie Barnes, but wouldn't give up #2 for him.

Bulls: I might consider something for Matas, who I hated last year. He played balls out in the second half last year, but doubt the Bulls would want to move him.

Cavs: Evan Mobley is one of the few guys I would consider trading that #2 pick for, but his 30% supermax scares me.

Pistons: Ausar is intriguing. Would make the Houston Rivalry fun.

Pacers: I am still interested in Jarace Walker. 14 and Wesley for Walker and 23?

Bucks: Giannis for Keldon, who says no? Taurean Prince is a FA.

Nuggets. MPJ has 2y left, so FA when Wemby's extension kicks in. And he has sucked balls in the playoffs this year. MPJ for Devin+Blake+14. They fix cap problems, can draft a forward like Fleming or Bryant, plus have Devin spotting up for them. They need depth and have been trying to move MPJ. They don't have a pick in either round this year.

Wolves; Obviously McDaniels or Reid are great fits. I don't think either is available.
OKC: I dont see them trading any of their guys to us.

Portland: I love Deni and Camara. I think that is their core going forward. I don't know what we could do to get Camara, but it would probably be too expensive. I'd trade Sochan for him. I'd eat Ayton's contract and send them Devin for Camara.

Utah: I think John Collins is too dumb to play for the Spurs. I want nothing to do with Lauri's max contract. He's the 18th highest paid player in the NBA above Luka, Ant and Trae next year. If they offered Lauri+5 for Barnes+Keldon+14 I might say no because that contract is that bad.

Warriors: I want nothing to do with Kuminga or Butler.

Clippers: **** them.

Lakers: Not trading with them. Rui SHOULD be interesting, but he just isn't.

Suns: If Royce ONeal fell off a truck I would pick him up, but I wouldn't send them anything for him. He's 31 with 3y left and is a 6'4 PF.

Kings: Keegan Murray. He's like Sochan in he seems to not have progressed as much as would have been hoped and is up for an extension this summer. They really need his defense so I doubt they are moving him. Also he is an awful passer and his shot has regressed.

Hawks. I think Zaccy Racecar would fit our needs really well. I would give up one of their two picks for him, but that is it. They obviously want to build around him.

Hornets. Would you do Miller+4 for 2? Miller and VJ Edgecombe coming in? I love VJ fwiw.

Heat: Love Bam, even if he seemed to regress some this year. Not super interested in Wiggins. But Keldon+Blake+14 for Wiggins? Maybe.

Orlando: I love Franz and he is one of the few guys I would consider moving #2 for. But he is already on the max and cant shoot. Barnes+Keldon+2 for Franz Wagner works financially. But would a French and German Superstar mesh well?

Dallas. I already shared my Devin to Utah, Sexton to Dallas, PJ and Hardy to Spurs trade.

Houston. Amen for Harper and Branham? I think both teams say no.

Memphis. All depends on JJJ's extension. Obviously would be interested in Jaylen Wells, too. JJJ+Wemby would be amazing. He's still just 25. Also, if we are sending you Harper for JJJ, I'll take one Scotty Pippen off your hands. Barnes, Sochan, Harper for JJJ, Pippen, Clarke?

Pelicans. I just think they want to dump everything BUT Trey and Herb. But I'd do Trey for Devin and 14. But what if they demanded you eat DeJounte? Devin+Keldon+Julian+14 for Trey+DeJounte?

I swear I was just kicking around that exact pelicans trade and I think I would go for it

I think I'd take it if they threw in a future pick.

Devin + Keldon + Julian + 14

For

Dejountae + Murphy + Bucks 2027 pick

No way they are throwing in that Bucks pick. That thing is absolute gold. I think they go to Milwaukee and say Zion+Hawkins+#7+Milwaukee's 2026+Milwaukee's 2027 for Giannis.

Saves Milwaukee 10M right away. NOLA still has #14 with the two trades.

Olynyk/Missi
Giannis/Julian
Herb Jones/Keldon
Vassell
McCollum/Alvarado

Maybe take Danny Wolf with 14 to get a center with passing and some shooting, but Olynyk can shoot still.

I'm not a big Cam Johnson fan, but I modified a trade I saw on Reddit a little bit that an Orlando fan suggested. They hate KCP and he is a bit redundant with Suggs.

• Brooklyn gets: KCP + Spurs 14th pick + future Orlando swap
• Orlando gets: Devin Vassell + Spurs 38th pick
• Spurs get: Cam Johnson + Goga Bitazde + Nets 27th pick

Nets move way up in the draft and now have 8, 14, 19, and 26 and add defense and a leader. KCP has two years left, so has value as a trade chip at the deadline this year and next summer.

Orlando gets a better offensive player that fits better with their team.

Spurs address shooting, forward depth and backup center, plus have that 27th pick to use on an upside guy like Yaxel, Coward, Will Riley, Raynaud, etc.

We also dont have to use the MLE on a backup center and can use it on best available player. Bring in Luke Kennard? Santi Aldama?

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I'm not a big Cam Johnson fan, but I modified a trade I saw on Reddit a little bit that an Orlando fan suggested. They hate KCP and he is a bit redundant with Suggs.

• Brooklyn gets: KCP + Spurs 14th pick + future Orlando swap
• Orlando gets: Devin Vassell + Spurs 38th pick
• Spurs get: Cam Johnson + Goga Bitazde + Nets 27th pick

Nets move way up in the draft and now have 8, 14, 19, and 26 and add defense and a leader. KCP has two years left, so has value as a trade chip at the deadline this year and next summer.

Orlando gets a better offensive player that fits better with their team.

Spurs address shooting, forward depth and backup center, plus have that 27th pick to use on an upside guy like Yaxel, Coward, Will Riley, Raynaud, etc.

We also dont have to use the MLE on a backup center and can use it on best available player. Bring in Luke Kennard? Santi Aldama?

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I don't hate it. Cam can light it up and has a little self creation to his game. He's basically a younger Harrison Barnes. Goga is a solid backup center. Does the dirty work, good defender and rebounder, not a shooter at all.

On the Ringer podcast about Pop retiring, Raja Bell said he was in Spurs camp and was the last guy cut. He said he really wasn't ready to play for the Spurs at the time. But Pop called Larry Brown at the 76ers and told Larry to sign Raja. Raja said that made his career and he might not have made it in the NBA without Pop.

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On the Ringer podcast about Pop retiring, Raja Bell said he was in Spurs camp and was the last guy cut. He said he really wasn't ready to play for the Spurs at the time. But Pop called Larry Brown at the 76ers and told Larry to sign Raja. Raja said that made his career and he might not have made it in the NBA without Pop.

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I believe it was Derrick Dial that we chose to keep. If it was the other way, who knows what would have happened and if we would have even gone after Bruce later.

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On the Ringer podcast about Pop retiring, Raja Bell said he was in Spurs camp and was the last guy cut. He said he really wasn't ready to play for the Spurs at the time. But Pop called Larry Brown at the 76ers and told Larry to sign Raja. Raja said that made his career and he might not have made it in the NBA without Pop.

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I believe it was Derrick Dial that we chose to keep. If it was the other way, who knows what would have happened and if we would have even gone after Bruce later.

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Raja really didn't hit until after we got Bruce, so not sure we would have kept him that long. He was on that Dallas team that we beat in the WCF with Bruce, then his break out was the following year with Utah. Utah picked him up on a vet min. That was his age 27 year. His first year as a starter was Phoenix in 06 in his age 29 season.

Crazy it took him so long to put it together. He was with us in 00 after the first title. Would have been crazy to have both Raja and Bruce in those mid-late 00s years, though. The league would have really hated us even more.

Essengue had a great game in the playoffs today. I believe he is the youngest guy in the draft. Couple weeks younger than Flagg.

2006-born 🇫🇷 prospect Noa Essengue in G1 of the playoffs in Ulm's win over Alba Berlin:
21 PTS
1.750 PPP
4/5 FG
13/13 FT
4 REB
3 AST
1 TO
2 STL #NBADraft pic.twitter.com/SKLJ5OMdxU

— Spel (@spel81) May 17, 2025

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Essengue had a great game in the playoffs today. I believe he is the youngest guy in the draft. Couple weeks younger than Flagg.

2006-born 🇫🇷 prospect Noa Essengue in G1 of the playoffs in Ulm's win over Alba Berlin:
21 PTS
1.750 PPP
4/5 FG
13/13 FT
4 REB
3 AST
1 TO
2 STL #NBADraft pic.twitter.com/SKLJ5OMdxU

— Spel (@spel81) May 17, 2025

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The length and athleticism really pop on film, but he's a pretty big project. If he's the pick at 14 he's gonna need a year in the G League to let him get as much playing time and development as possible. In a couple years once he's bulked up and hopefully figured out how to be a consistent 3 point shooter, he'd be a phenomenal 3 and D player.

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Essengue had a great game in the playoffs today. I believe he is the youngest guy in the draft. Couple weeks younger than Flagg.

2006-born 🇫🇷 prospect Noa Essengue in G1 of the playoffs in Ulm's win over Alba Berlin:
21 PTS
1.750 PPP
4/5 FG
13/13 FT
4 REB
3 AST
1 TO
2 STL #NBADraft pic.twitter.com/SKLJ5OMdxU

— Spel (@spel81) May 17, 2025

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The length and athleticism really pop on film, but he's a pretty big project. If he's the pick at 14 he's gonna need a year in the G League to let him get as much playing time and development as possible. In a couple years once he's bulked up and hopefully figured out how to be a consistent 3 point shooter, he'd be a phenomenal 3 and D player.

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Vecenie kept saying "I don't want to say Giannis... but he is 18 and he moves like skinny Giannis"

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Essengue had a great game in the playoffs today. I believe he is the youngest guy in the draft. Couple weeks younger than Flagg.

2006-born 🇫🇷 prospect Noa Essengue in G1 of the playoffs in Ulm's win over Alba Berlin:
21 PTS
1.750 PPP
4/5 FG
13/13 FT
4 REB
3 AST
1 TO
2 STL #NBADraft pic.twitter.com/SKLJ5OMdxU

— Spel (@spel81) May 17, 2025

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The length and athleticism really pop on film, but he's a pretty big project. If he's the pick at 14 he's gonna need a year in the G League to let him get as much playing time and development as possible. In a couple years once he's bulked up and hopefully figured out how to be a consistent 3 point shooter, he'd be a phenomenal 3 and D player.

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Vecenie kept saying "I don't want to say Giannis... but he is 18 and he moves like skinny Giannis"

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Like I said, the athleticism and length pop. I love the way he dunks everything when he gets to the rim. I'm not gonna touch the Giannis comparison because he's a freak of nature, but I do think his jumper looks much more natural than Giannis. While he's capable of making some really nice passes, I don't think he has the natural play making instincts either.

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Essengue had a great game in the playoffs today. I believe he is the youngest guy in the draft. Couple weeks younger than Flagg.

2006-born 🇫🇷 prospect Noa Essengue in G1 of the playoffs in Ulm's win over Alba Berlin:
21 PTS
1.750 PPP
4/5 FG
13/13 FT
4 REB
3 AST
1 TO
2 STL #NBADraft pic.twitter.com/SKLJ5OMdxU

— Spel (@spel81) May 17, 2025

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The length and athleticism really pop on film, but he's a pretty big project. If he's the pick at 14 he's gonna need a year in the G League to let him get as much playing time and development as possible. In a couple years once he's bulked up and hopefully figured out how to be a consistent 3 point shooter, he'd be a phenomenal 3 and D player.

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Vecenie kept saying "I don't want to say Giannis... but he is 18 and he moves like skinny Giannis"

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Like I said, the athleticism and length pop. I love the way he dunks everything when he gets to the rim. I'm not gonna touch the Giannis comparison because he's a freak of nature, but I do think his jumper looks much more natural than Giannis. While he's capable of making some really nice passes, I don't think he has the natural play making instincts either.

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Completely agree. And he shot 29% from three this year. For an 18yo in a pro league, it isn't awful. Luka shot 28% in Liga ACB with Real Madrid and 32% in Euroleague when he won MVP.

Fun spurs fact for the day: Mitch Johnson is a Klutch client.

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Fun spurs fact for the day: Mitch Johnson is a Klutch client.

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I saw that when they announced his extension. Was not expected. Keldon and Fox are Klutch, too.

Dylan Harper signed with Bill Duffy.

From The Athletic. Off season spending ability:

• Cap space: Brooklyn Nets ($58 million), Detroit Pistons ($24.6 million), Memphis Grizzlies ($6.9 million)
• Full nontaxpayer MLE: San Antonio Spurs, Sacramento Kings, Charlotte Hornets, Washington Wizards, Utah Jazz, Atlanta Hawks

Pistons have Schroeder and Beasley as UFAs. Memphis has Santi and Kennard. Both are more likely to be MLE teams.

That is not a lot of teams to fight over the top free agents. I wouldn't be surprised if the Nets use that cap space to acquire bad contracts and draft assets since they didnt win the lottery. Nets could give Boston or Philly all the cap relief in the world. Would it be worth moving from #3 to 8 to dump Paul George's contract? What about take a first from Boston to take 1y 30M of Kristaps?

I'll admit. I've fallen in love with Harper. He looks like a cross between Manu and Tony to me.

Porzingis just seems like a natural Net and by that I mean "a guy who wound up on the Nets because his salary needed to be dumped and he's kind of a name guy but also will never be worth what they're having to pay him"

Us and Atlanta are the two most attractive teams for the mle. Didn't realize so few had it.

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Us and Atlanta are the two most attractive teams for the mle. Didn't realize so few had it.

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I think Detroit is more attractive than Atlanta. Ivey only played 30 games before he got hurt. He was putting up 18/4/4 on 46/41 shooting. If they can keep Schroeder coming off the bench and keep Beasley, they can use that MLE on a Tim Hardaway replacement. Exciting young team led by Cade instead of Trae.

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Us and Atlanta are the two most attractive teams for the mle. Didn't realize so few had it.

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I think Detroit is more attractive than Atlanta. Ivey only played 30 games before he got hurt. He was putting up 18/4/4 on 46/41 shooting. If they can keep Schroeder coming off the bench and keep Beasley, they can use that MLE on a Tim Hardaway replacement. Exciting young team led by Cade instead of Trae.

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I was just thinking the MLE. But you are right, Detroit is more attractive than Atlanta.

Maybe Yabusele we could get. Fellow Frenchmen for Wemby.

Interesting article on Naz Reid predicted to sign with Detroit.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/news/naz-reid-predicted-leave-timberwolves-team-224-million-superstar-rising-eastern-conference-team/adbf7b108456cc8ea0440425

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Us and Atlanta are the two most attractive teams for the mle. Didn't realize so few had it.

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I think Detroit is more attractive than Atlanta. Ivey only played 30 games before he got hurt. He was putting up 18/4/4 on 46/41 shooting. If they can keep Schroeder coming off the bench and keep Beasley, they can use that MLE on a Tim Hardaway replacement. Exciting young team led by Cade instead of Trae.

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I was just thinking the MLE. But you are right, Detroit is more attractive than Atlanta.

Maybe Yabusele we could get. Fellow Frenchmen for Wemby.

Interesting article on Naz Reid predicted to sign with Detroit.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/news/naz-reid-predicted-leave-timberwolves-team-224-million-superstar-rising-eastern-conference-team/adbf7b108456cc8ea0440425

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That's a spicy team! I love it.


C: Duran/Beef Stew
PF: Naz / Tobias
SF: Ausar / Holland
SG: Ivey / Beasley
PG: Cade / Schroeder?

They could be up there with the Cavs and Knicks next year in the East.

New York https://t.co/uJQRe2ID7O

— Giannis Antetokounmpo (@Giannis_An34) May 18, 2025

Giannis to Brooklyn?

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For us, I like using our exception on Kornet or Adams (if Adams is healthy enough for the role) and the BAE on a guy like Yabusale. But if Memphis lets Kennard go and we use 14 on Fleming, I would love to grab Kennard.

Pretty good list of the measurables at the combine in this article.

Sorber's height was a bit disappointing for a center. I watched an NBA scout interview earlier on youtube. it was almost 30 minutes if I remember right. Maxime Raynaud is a guy that impressed. Said what they watch the most is the 5 on 5 scrimmages at the combines, which we don't see or really hear about. The other workouts he said they don't really care about like the shuttles, 3 pt shots, etc.. he kind of indicated they were worthless.

according to the scout, the biggest winner in the combine was Tahaad Pettiford out of Auburn. On the 5 on 5, he was dominant. He shot up draft boards to likely first round. I don't want him, he is a PG.

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-results-height-wingspan-measurements/cc328a555b744275ba6c7166

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Pretty good list of the measurables at the combine in this article.

Sorber's height was a bit disappointing for a center. I watched an NBA scout interview earlier on youtube. it was almost 30 minutes if I remember right. Maxime Raynaud is a guy that impressed. Said what they watch the most is the 5 on 5 scrimmages at the combines, which we don't see or really hear about. The other workouts he said they don't really care about like the shuttles, 3 pt shots, etc.. he kind of indicated they were worthless.

according to the scout, the biggest winner in the combine was Tahaad Pettiford out of Auburn. On the 5 on 5, he was dominant. He shot up draft boards to likely first round. I don't want him, he is a PG.

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-results-height-wingspan-measurements/cc328a555b744275ba6c7166

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NBA has it all up in their website.
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro

I don't think Sorber's hight is that disappointing when you factor in his wingspan and standing reach. Sorber has the #2 wingspan at 7'6 after Malauch's 7'6.75"

Standing reach is 9'1" An inch less than Raynaud. Sorber's 6'9.25 puts him at ~6'11 in shoes. That's plenty good with his wingspan and how well he moves at his size.

Kalkbrenner, Malauch, and Rocco are really the only centers that are that much bigger, but all are less talented imo.

I was really hoping to grab Raynaud at 38, but I'm positive that ship has sailed.

Pettiford is intersting, but he is also just 6' tall.

Personally I like Maluach over Sorber. Was reading that pre-Duke, Maluach tape showed he had more scoring range and versatility. Sorber is quicker and on tape has a more well rounded offensive game. but Sorber shot 16% from 3 and his jump shooting percentages were low.

But Maulach clearly is the best rim protector in this draft. I know I have said it many times, but we were killed on offensive rebounds and letting layups happen. But I think its a mute point as every mock draft I have seen has him in the top 10. And I've probably seen 20 different ones the past few weeks. He may sign somewhere else after 4 years, but he would really help Wemby.

Sorber is anywhere from late lottery to mid-20's in the mocks.

Jeremiah Fears has really shot up draft boards. He went from 15 to 25 to top 7 or so consistently in mocks.

Noa Essengue is polarizing on draft boards. He is now going as high as 9 in mocks. but I've also seen him go late 20's. Newell is anywhere from 10 to 25 consistently.

12-14 appears to be Rasheer Flemings ceiling, and his floor is 29.

I'm kind of hoping we draft Esengue. Potential is he could be a superstar, and I would only say that about a few players in this draft. But he is a high-energy, hustle, long, strong defender and rebounder. He could really run with Fox and Castle. I would be excited to watch him develop.

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Personally I like Maluach over Sorber. Was reading that pre-Duke, Maluach tape showed he had more scoring range and versatility. Sorber is quicker and on tape has a more well rounded offensive game. but Sorber shot 16% from 3 and his jump shooting percentages were low.

But Maulach clearly is the best rim protector in this draft. I know I have said it many times, but we were killed on offensive rebounds and letting layups happen. But I think its a mute point as every mock draft I have seen has him in the top 10. And I've probably seen 20 different ones the past few weeks. He may sign somewhere else after 4 years, but he would really help Wemby.

Sorber is anywhere from late lottery to mid-20's in the mocks.

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Sorber had better steal and block rates than Malauch. He's also a really good passer and I think that shows. Sorber was at 2.8a/36min and Malauch was at 0.9. I think Malauch will be a good rim protector - I think he will be a healthy Dereck Lively. But I think Sorber is the complete package (other than 3pt shooting, but he's a center.)

Think of the role Hartenstein is playing in OKC. 11/11/4a in 28mpg. Plays with and without Chet. I think Sorber could do the same thing. And while Malauch is only a rim protector/dunker, Sorber has a lot of moves and can create his own shot or pass. I think Malauch's offense will be some rim running and offensive rebounds.

I really see Sorber as an Atlanta-era Al Hortford, who also didn't shoot threes. Sorber at .724 from the line looks better at developing a shot than we would have guessed Hortford would (.619 in college.)

So Malauch may be the better defender with his height and length, but I think Sorber will be the better all around. I also don't think Malauch falls past Toronto at 9 under any circumstance.

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My second favorite PG in the draft. He needs a lot of work, but he gets to the rim and draws fouls. Kasparas isn't quick, doesn't play defense and has shaky shooting. Traore is a project. Demin doesn't shoot, play D or get to the rim. Jase and Pettiford are short.

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Noa Essengue is polarizing on draft boards. He is now going as high as 9 in mocks. but I've also seen him go late 20's. Newell is anywhere from 10 to 25 consistently.


12-14 appears to be Rasheer Flemings ceiling, and his floor is 29.

I'm kind of hoping we draft Esengue. Potential is he could be a superstar, and I would only say that about a few players in this draft. But he is a high-energy, hustle, long, strong defender and rebounder. He could really run with Fox and Castle. I would be excited to watch him develop.

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I would take Essengue because of his upside, but prefer Fleming's higher floor and more ready to play now. Essengue is the youngest player in the draft. I've already talked about why I am out on Newell.

12-14 appears to be Rasheer Flemings ceiling, and his floor is 29.

I love the ceiling that Essengue has. But what I really like about Fleming is his size. We need someone with some muscle that can body up against some of the stronger guys when Wemby is in. Essengue is playing out against the pros in Europe. I still put Fleming over him because Fleming's proven he can hit open shots. But I might regret it when Noa becomes French Giannis and starts taking horse steroids.

Interesting

How the starting lineups for the conference finalists were built.

11/20 were acquired via trades
6/20 were acquired via the draft
3/20 were acquired via free agency pic.twitter.com/BAKrlafvq2

— Owen Phillips (@owenlhjphillips) May 18, 2025

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Pretty good list of the measurables at the combine in this article.

Sorber's height was a bit disappointing for a center. I watched an NBA scout interview earlier on youtube. it was almost 30 minutes if I remember right. Maxime Raynaud is a guy that impressed. Said what they watch the most is the 5 on 5 scrimmages at the combines, which we don't see or really hear about. The other workouts he said they don't really care about like the shuttles, 3 pt shots, etc.. he kind of indicated they were worthless.

according to the scout, the biggest winner in the combine was Tahaad Pettiford out of Auburn. On the 5 on 5, he was dominant. He shot up draft boards to likely first round. I don't want him, he is a PG.

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-results-height-wingspan-measurements/cc328a555b744275ba6c7166

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Judging from what I have been reading, the combine is good for media hype and fans get all excited but the good scouts already know what players can do. They want to see what they can do against higher level competition. Especially those players that are projects or played against lesser competition.

I feel like the Spurs have a good scouting department so I trust them to do their homework.

The 14th pick is interesting because it all depends on where the front office feels there is the best value. If they want help immediately, I feel like Fleming is more ready to step in because of his age. If they want more of a project with upside, then I feel like Essengue might be the pick.

On another note, Mackenzie Mgbako participated in the scrimmages and had a good showing but is still going to play for the Aggies this year.

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Pretty good list of the measurables at the combine in this article.

Sorber's height was a bit disappointing for a center. I watched an NBA scout interview earlier on youtube. it was almost 30 minutes if I remember right. Maxime Raynaud is a guy that impressed. Said what they watch the most is the 5 on 5 scrimmages at the combines, which we don't see or really hear about. The other workouts he said they don't really care about like the shuttles, 3 pt shots, etc.. he kind of indicated they were worthless.

according to the scout, the biggest winner in the combine was Tahaad Pettiford out of Auburn. On the 5 on 5, he was dominant. He shot up draft boards to likely first round. I don't want him, he is a PG.

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-results-height-wingspan-measurements/cc328a555b744275ba6c7166

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Judging from what I have been reading, the combine is good for media hype and fans get all excited but the good scouts already know what players can do. They want to see what they can do against higher level competition. Especially those players that are projects or played against lesser competition.

I feel like the Spurs have a good scouting department so I trust them to do their homework.

The 14th pick is interesting because it all depends on where the front office feels there is the best value. If they want help immediately, I feel like Fleming is more ready to step in because of his age. If they want more of a project with upside, then I feel like Essengue might be the pick.

On another note, Mackenzie Mgbako participated in the scrimmages and had a good showing but is still going to play for the Aggies this year.

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Yeah I don't think anyone cares about the lane agility or 3/4 Sprint or anything like that. Maybe they care about standing vertical and Max vertical because it shows explosiveness. But the great James flight White was on the Spurs roster and he never did anything.

I think the actual heights and wingspans and standing reach is important. But the interviews are probably the most important part of that process.