***Official 2024 - 2025 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread***

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jeffdjohnson said:

A lineup with Kyrie, Luka, and Klay will really struggle defensively. Having said that, if the Mavs get Klay I don't think you would see it a lot. You would mostly see Klay with Luka or Kyrie plus 3 defenders. Kind of how you didn't see THJ in with both Kyrie and Luka very often. I think it is a bit risky considering age and injuries. Having said that, Klay doesn't cost you any draft capital, just some cap space which is a bit overrated. So why not.

I more disappointed that the Mavs signed Naji over DJJ. The contract itself isn't bad, but it still feels like a sideways move at best considering that DJJ seemed to fit in really well with the team. I'll miss DJJ. One guy I would like the Mavs to kick the tires on again is Thybulle in Portland. He signed an offer sheet with the Mavs last year so there was mutual interest. Mavs need to find another POA defender to add to the defensive roster.
Klay would also cost at least Josh Green as well. Since the Lakers are upping their bid, I'm worried he would also cost you Hardy and/or OMax.

I have come around a bit on Marshall. He will be much better offensively than DJJ, but not as good of a point of attack defender or as good a lob player. DJJ was under 34% from the corners this year while Marshall was 42% from the corners. Hopefully these numbers stick, and could even improve. Marshall also provides a little extra off the dribble and is a solid passer. Hopefully Marshall also is good taking on a larger load of guarding guards and the other team's best wing.

Agree that I'll miss DJJ's athleticism and chemistry with the team. The switch seems to make the Mavs much better offensively but slightly worse defensively, probably.

Edit: And I do mean only very slightly worse defensively. Marshall is a very good defender, but I don't think he always guarded the same guys that DJJ was asked to for us. Marshall is just under 6'6" without shoes and has a 7'+ wingspan like DJJ. He also had some of the biggest hands in his entire draft class if you are in to that sort of thing
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Don't get the klay hate. Our undoing in the playoffs was our shooting. We shot like 20% from 3 in the finals and klay shoots about 40%.
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I'm 100% out on Klay if we have to give up two of Josh, Hardy and Omax. I don't even love it if we only have to give up Josh Green (because he is still so young and can still improve some).

I'm somewhat hoping that y'all are right and that Klay wants to stay in California and is using the Mavs as leverage. Klay is borderline how Peja was when we signed him our championship year. That's an exaggeration, but other than being a spot up shooter, he can't do much these days on either end.
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Grapesoda2525 said:

Don't get the klay hate. Our undoing in the playoffs was our shooting. We shot like 20% from 3 in the finals and klay shoots about 40%.
But that wasn't just because role players missed open looks created by Luka and Kyrie. The Celtics were content to stay home on shooters. Having Klay would not have changed any of the Celtics court positioning or our offensive math, in my opinion. A good amount of the 3 pointers we missed were Luka and Kyrie, not role players missing shots the Celtics were giving them.
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M.C. Swag said:




He turned down 2y/48 to stay in GSW
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Guitarsoup said:

M.C. Swag said:




He turned down 2y/48 to stay in GSW
that makes me feel better about it...kind of
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Wow lol. I actually like that money for Klay, considering I thought it would be in the $25 mil per yea range (probably just cope on my part lol). Bummed to lose Josh Green though.
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Love that contract
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zgolfz85
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I like the idea of a better 2nd rotation too with klay, hardy, kleber etc.

for that money, I dig it
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M.C. Swag said:


wait hold up wut
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Whoops...somebody jump the gun? This is being reported everywhere haha.
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Woj was just on TV saying the Warriors are ok with the trade because it gives them a somewhat large TPE. Interesting that they apparently aren't ready yet.
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has woj ever leaked a deal that didn't go through?
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post all star break 2024 stats for klay:

18.9 ppg
44 3 pt shooting %
45% overall %
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zgolfz85 said:

post all star break 2024 stats for klay:

18.9 ppg
44 3 pt shooting %
45% overall %
I think that was about when they started to bring him off the bench. I'm guessing the Mavs guaranteed a starting spot.
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40475185/klay-thompson-join-mavericks-3-year-50m-deal


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Thompson's move to Dallas comes as part of a multi-team sign-and-trade that'll also send Mavericks guard Josh Green to Charlotte. Thompson had four-year offers for more money, but taking less was offset by the chance to win a fifth championship with the Mavs as well as the difference in state taxes.
This worked for once!
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Somebody help me here. My brain goes back to Mark Aguirre, Ro Blackmon . . . so a long ways.

Is this our biggest outright free agent signing ever?
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zgolfz85 said:

has woj ever leaked a deal that didn't go through?
Whoever got klay was always going to get him via the sign and trade. How I understand it was going to work is this :

Klay chooses a team to go to, the warriors repay klay and him helping them win 4 championships by helping facilitate a move to his team of choice, and the warriors work out compensation with the team he chooses.

The first part of it is done. Klay has chosen the mavs. Now the mavs have to give the warriors some semblance of draft compensation probably and/ or maybe kleber.
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Grapesoda2525 said:

zgolfz85 said:

has woj ever leaked a deal that didn't go through?
Whoever got klay was always going to get him via the sign and trade. How I understand it was going to work is this :

Klay chooses a team to go to, the warriors repay klay and him helping them win 4 championships by helping facilitate a move to his team of choice, and the warriors work out compensation with the team he chooses.

The first part of it is done. Klay has chosen the mavs. Now the mavs have to give the warriors some semblance of draft compensation probably and/ or maybe kleber.
I much prefer just josh green and no other trade assets like it was initially reported.
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zgolfz85 said:

Grapesoda2525 said:

zgolfz85 said:

has woj ever leaked a deal that didn't go through?
Whoever got klay was always going to get him via the sign and trade. How I understand it was going to work is this :

Klay chooses a team to go to, the warriors repay klay and him helping them win 4 championships by helping facilitate a move to his team of choice, and the warriors work out compensation with the team he chooses.

The first part of it is done. Klay has chosen the mavs. Now the mavs have to give the warriors some semblance of draft compensation probably and/ or maybe kleber.
I much prefer just josh green and no other trade assets like it was initially reported.
The Mavs appear to only be giving up Green and nothing else. The rest of the compensation will be on Charlotte's end.
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South Platte said:

Somebody help me here. My brain goes back to Mark Aguirre, Ro Blackmon . . . so a long ways.

Is this our biggest outright free agent signing ever?



I'm pretty sure Boban is the biggest signing in Mavs history
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Green is definitely going to Charlotte, and it's a multi-team deal, so we will see if any other draft capital is included. Doesn't look like any other players involved from a Mavs perspective.

Such a huge upgrade for our 3 point shooting. Just imagine how different that Boston series might have been if we had an elite outside shooter hitting all those open looks we had from Kyrie/Luka penetration.
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M.C. Swag said:




No player option.
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So he'll be an expiring deal in the summer Luka/Kyrie are FAs
shack009
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Kyrie only has 2 more years from now right?
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shack009 said:

Kyrie only has 2 more years from now right?
Ya I guess theoretically he could opt out after this season.
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M.C. Swag said:

shack009 said:

Kyrie only has 2 more years from now right?
Ya I guess theoretically he could opt out after this season.
Highly unlikely to say the least
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M.C. Swag said:

So he'll be an expiring deal in the summer Luka/Kyrie are FAs
Maybe that will be about the time that Orlando decides they will need shooting to be competitive.
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I think the Mavs have gotten better this week
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HawthornAggie said:

I think the Mavs have gotten better this week
I agree AND they still have like $4.4m left to spend (which isn't nothing).
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Spencer Dinwiddie or Dennis Smith Jr? I have a preference, but it's probably not the dominant one.
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DSJ and it isn't close.
 
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