I'm still curious to see what happens with Terry. He says he wants to play two more years somewhere. Shot was broke all last year but he could still be a good locker room guy for the right team.
***Official Houston Rockets Quest for the Championship Thread II***
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So UAB didn't work out for him I see
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/yao-ming-my-rookie-year-rockets-china/
Yao talking about his rookie season.
Yao talking about his rookie season.
If Rudy didn't get cancer, we would have made the playoffs that year. But if he stayed as coach, we probably wouldn't have gotten McGrady.
That's and interesting what if? What if Rudy was healthy and coached Yao and Francis longterm?
That's and interesting what if? What if Rudy was healthy and coached Yao and Francis longterm?
Look, I'm probably the biggest Stevie Franchise fan in the world...but that dude was not going to get a championship.
Ty Lawson thinks people are overlooking him in FA because of his drinking. Somebody should inform him that people are avoiding him because he was TERRIBLE last year. He needs to STFU.
dude had a PER of 9 something last season; he was miserable.
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Ty Lawson thinks people are overlooking him in FA because of his drinking. Somebody should inform him that people are avoiding him because he was TERRIBLE last year. He needs to STFU.
...and also the drinking. Terrible + persistent DUI issues = no contract. And wasn't part of the reason the Rockets picked him up that he's supposed to be good friends with Durant? So even that reason is gone.
If that dude could average 15/2/11 teams would let him drink on the bench. His skills have declined, a PG who relies on speed is done when his legs give out.
Didn't know he had a drinking issue, but that's a pretty damn valid reason for not giving somebody a multi million dollar contract.
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Didn't know he had a drinking issue, but that's a pretty damn valid reason for not giving somebody a multi million dollar contract.
He had like three DWIs in a year
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dude had a PER of 9 something last season; he was miserable.
PER is useless
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Didn't know he had a drinking issue, but that's a pretty damn valid reason for not giving somebody a multi million dollar contract.
He had like three DWIs in a year
I feel like he had about that many assists last season.
I feel like the fact that I don't like working is keeping me from being named CEO of my company.
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dude had a PER of 9 something last season; he was miserable.
PER is useless
Only if you think the great measures of a player are ppg, RPG and apg
Ty played scared his entire time in a Rockets uniform. It was infuriating every single game.
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dude had a PER of 9 something last season; he was miserable.
PER is useless
Only if you think the great measures of a player are ppg, RPG and apg
Don't fall into trap of thinking every thing of value a player does for team or a game shows up in box score. Especially on defensive end
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Ty played scared his entire time in a Rockets uniform. It was infuriating every single game.
It was one of the largest year to year drop offs that I have ever seen. Dude averaged almost 10 assists with a terrible Denver team in 14-15.
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dude had a PER of 9 something last season; he was miserable.
PER is useless
Only if you think the great measures of a player are ppg, RPG and apg
Don't fall into trap of thinking every thing of value a player does for team or a game shows up in box score. Especially on defensive end
No one has fallen into that trap.
quote:Maybe he was just really hungover. Give the guy a break.
Ty played scared his entire time in a Rockets uniform. It was infuriating every single game.
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dude had a PER of 9 something last season; he was miserable.
PER is useless
Only if you think the great measures of a player are ppg, RPG and apg
Don't fall into trap of thinking every thing of value a player does for team or a game shows up in box score. Especially on defensive end
So... What is it not in the box score that Ty Lawson was of so much value doing last season?
quote:quote:Maybe he was just really hungover. Give the guy a break.
Ty played scared his entire time in a Rockets uniform. It was infuriating every single game.
He was allegedly sober last season. Pretty sure the soberiety almost killed him.
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Ty played scared his entire time in a Rockets uniform. It was infuriating every single game.
It was one of the largest year to year drop offs that I have ever seen. Dude averaged almost 10 assists with a terrible Denver team in 14-15.
Agree Ty was bad in Hou but guy saw his minutes cut basically in half and was passing to guys who can't shoot so assists plummeted. Hou really assembled a mess.
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dude had a PER of 9 something last season; he was miserable.
PER is useless
Only if you think the great measures of a player are ppg, RPG and apg
Don't fall into trap of thinking every thing of value a player does for team or a game shows up in box score. Especially on defensive end
So... What is it not in the box score that Ty Lawson was of so much value doing last season?
Never said he did anything of value. Was commenting on uselessness of PER as it relates to value of player.
Best thing Lawson did in 15-16 was sit on the bench a lot where he can't hurt team.
There are very very few players that have a net positive effect for their team with a per under 10. It has to be someone weird like Bruce Bowen that sucks at FTs and contributes Little to nothing offensively but is excellent defensively. Even No stat hero Shane Battier kept his PER over 10 every year in his prime
Are you using 10 because it is one higher than Lawson last year or just as point of reference?
Good point of reference and that is higher than Lawson's last year. PER is adjusted so that the league average is 15.
While it is not a end all be all stat and Hollinger (its inventor) admits as such, it is a very good way to compare how players contributed while on the court. Generally, rotational players are 13+. Below 11 is very bad. 27+ = MVP candidate.
While it is not a end all be all stat and Hollinger (its inventor) admits as such, it is a very good way to compare how players contributed while on the court. Generally, rotational players are 13+. Below 11 is very bad. 27+ = MVP candidate.
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Good point of reference and that is higher than Lawson's last year. PER is adjusted so that the league average is 15.
While it is not a end all be all stat and Hollinger (its inventor) admits as such, it is a very good way to compare how players contributed while on the court. Generally, rotational players are 13+. Below 11 is very bad. 27+ = MVP candidate.
Yes, I am aware of how the statistic works. Was just curious for your reason behind choosing 10.
Good round number that is terrible on the scale. And you won't be able to find many if any (other than Bowen) rotational players (say top 7 or 8) on good teams with a PER under it.
So when a starting PG has a PER of 9, you can really safely assume he sucked balls.
While not a perfect stat, it is far from "useless."
So when a starting PG has a PER of 9, you can really safely assume he sucked balls.
While not a perfect stat, it is far from "useless."
Danny Green had a PER of 10.49 in 15-16 is a good example.
Enes Kanter was 11th in the league in PER and he is unplayable in games when not paired with very active defensive 2nd big.
Enes Kanter was 11th in the league in PER and he is unplayable in games when not paired with very active defensive 2nd big.
Yep. Green sucked last year. Go read the Spurs thread and you will find lots of people complaining about him all year long.
Again, most players aren't black and white all-offense or no-offense players. There are a few exceptions, but they are few. The stat is limited, but it isn't useless. There really aren't great stats to measure defensive ability that are available to the general public.
Again, most players aren't black and white all-offense or no-offense players. There are a few exceptions, but they are few. The stat is limited, but it isn't useless. There really aren't great stats to measure defensive ability that are available to the general public.
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Green sucked last year.
Stop that.
Finally got to read the Yao story. Really wish he could have reached his potential. Such a fun player to root for.
2009 was a missed opportunity. That team had talent and we lose McGrady going into the playoffs Yao later in the playoffs.
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Danny Green had a PER of 10.49 in 15-16 is a good example.
Enes Kanter was 11th in the league in PER and he is unplayable in games when not paired with very active defensive 2nd big.
you are doing exactly what you aren't supposed to do with statistics here to prove your point.
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