***Official Houston Rockets Quest for the Championship Thread II***

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It's not about protecting anyone and those guys are still forced to make free throws when they get fouled in an attempt. It's about not rewarding teams for breaking the rules. It's also about forcing losing teams to actually win by playing defense in the final minutes instead of it devolving into some other weird game that no one would pay to see.

If it means less comebacks, then so be it. Maybe teams should learn to play better basketball for the first 38 or 46 minutes. You know, the part that people actually like to watch.
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No, it is about protecting players with a fundamental flaw in their game. There are already rules in place to prevent hack-a- in the final moments of the game. And many teams are using the hack-a strategy when they are winning because in some situations it creates an advantage for them. And winning a game is all about creating advantages.

Bottom line, if you are getting paid 20mm/year, you should be able to hit at least 55% of your FTs. If you hit just 11 of 20 FTs, the strategy is completely moot and doesn't work at all.
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For one, the rules just protect teams from off ball fouls. I'd like to do away with intentionally fouling whether it's the ball handler or not altogether. I think I made that clear.

But even if it is just to protect players, I still think it's not that bad. There are specialists in every other sport. Why is that so bad in basketball? Players that can shoot free throws still have a great advantage over ones that can't, especially for posts.
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Was discussing the whole big men not being able to shoot FT's issue the other day with a friend for an hour trying to really pinpoint and understand why it has in fact been and continues to be a consistent problem.

It really can be explained very simply. It all has to do with what that player's particular niche was when they were growing up, which obviously had a lot to do with their height. For example, if the player was naturally taller than the competition in HS or college, he would often not need to develop an above average jump shot in order to dominate the competition. This phenomenon becomes more apparent with height --- all things being equal, 7 footers need a jump shot much less than a player who is 6'5 who needs a jump shot much less than a player who is 6'0, etc. In short, if you don't "need" it, why develop it?

To bring this point home, shorter players often cannot take advantage of their height to play effectively, and therefore, a jump shot is often necessary. For example, CP3 being a 6 footer was probably the shortest player on the court during his time in college, and presently in the NBA. Therefore, as previously stated, he needs exceptional shooting ability.

But what about taller players who can shoot? This has to do with the position they played growing up. If one played SG because they were shorter in elementary/HS, they would be equipped with a SG skill set. If this same player had a growth spurt, they would often be placed as a Center with that same skill set (i.e. Nowitzki). This phenomenon can also be seen with undersized big men --- if they were the tallest of the bunch in their younger years but failed to sustain that relative height, they would be equipped with post skills at a smaller stature relative to other big men (i.e. Barkley, Chuck Hayes).

There's also a rather large proportion of "late bloomers" who start playing basketball at an older age as the player approaches 7 feet. This late entry into the sport definitely can be correlated to the lack of shot development.
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Shaw used to blame having abnormally large hands as a hindrance to shooting, but Yao would hit 80%.
AG@RICE
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Shaw used to blame having abnormally large hands as a hindrance to shooting, but Yao would hit 80%.
It seems to me that the bigger issue is not the size of the hands but the width of a person's shoulders. The wider the shoulders of an individual the harder it is to center the shot over the legs and core. That being said, Im not an abnormally large human being so I cant exactly pinpoint the issue. What I do know, is that it is really boring to watch crappy free throw shooters all game long. Who wants to pay for that?

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Shaw used to blame having abnormally large hands as a hindrance to shooting, but Yao would hit 80%.

Boban, Duncan, and Kawhi all shoot over 70% and they've got freak hands.
Hickory High
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This discussion in general is so tiresome. Been hearing it nonstop for 3 years now.
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Especially when change is coming regardless. Ironically, it will change the season after Howard leaves Houston.
Hickory High
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Lol Luke Walton is officially an actual NBA basketball coach.
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Lol Luke Walton is officially an actual NBA basketball coach.



What's so funny
Hickory High
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Lol Luke Walton is officially an actual NBA basketball coach.



What's so funny

I think he will fail miserably.
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Lol Luke Walton is officially an actual NBA basketball coach.



What's so funny

I think he will fail miserably.
well, he's not exactly going into the best situation, so I think you have to set that bar pretty low no matter who is coaching them
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Lol Luke Walton is officially an actual NBA basketball coach.



What's so funny

I think he will fail miserably.
well, he's not exactly going into the best situation, so I think you have to set that bar pretty low no matter who is coaching them

He's going into a great situation. What $60 mil in cap space or something?
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They're a lottery team. That's the only given. Durant ain't walking through that door.
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They're a lottery team. That's the only given. Durant ain't walking through that door.

But Westbrook is next year
Guitarsoup
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They're a lottery team. That's the only given. Durant ain't walking through that door.

But Westbrook is next year


Probably not the player I would want as a very green coach
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They're a lottery team. That's the only given. Durant ain't walking through that door.

But Westbrook is next year


Probably not the player I would want as a very green coach


Or as a seasoned, proven coach.
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They're a lottery team. That's the only given. Durant ain't walking through that door.

But Westbrook is next year


Probably not the player I would want as a very green coach


Or as a seasoned, proven coach.
Hickory High
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I've changed my mind, we have to keep Ariza.
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Anybody think we can give someone like the lakers a 2nd round pick to take Brewer?
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I've changed my mind, we have to keep Ariza.

He told me he'll be here around 2. Keep y'all posted
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I've changed my mind, we have to keep Ariza.


If only he would have fought to get his jump shot in order before the playoffs started.

I should probably be carful what I say though. I don't want to have to fight Trev as well.
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i just read through the last few posts on this thread and it made me think of this tweet I saw during the playoffs. Has to be this guy....

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i just read through the last few posts on this thread and it made me think of this tweet I saw during the playoffs. Has to be this guy....


Original_NoOlives
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Another great one
Guitarsoup
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Rockets have the third best record in the NBA over the past ten years, including playoffs.
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Because we've never been allowed to tank
WES2006AG
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Because we've never been allowed to tank
Which has been a blessing and a curse.
WES2006AG
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Why haven't they announced the firing of JB yet? With Walton being hired by the Lakers it is not like we need to wait until the postseason is over.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hickory High
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Yeah Byron, and I'd love to get a tryout for the Rockets. But some things just can't happen because we're both bad at the things we want.
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JVG! ...JVG! ...JVG!

Fug off, Byron
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Step 1) Go get Frank Vogel.
Step 2) Wait for the Pacers to implode
Step 3) Trade for Paul George


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