If that happens, poor OKC

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If that happens, poor OKC

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I'd feel so sorry for them.

Westbrook will almost assuredly go back to LA. OKC is screwed.

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Westbrook will almost assuredly go back to LA. OKC is screwed.

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How would we feel about a line up like this in 2016-17?

PG - Jennings / Bev
SG - Harden / McDaniels
SF - Barnes / Ariza / Dekker
PF - Beasley / Harrell
C - Whiteside / Capela

Now this would really push the limits of the cap and involve getting ride of Brewer.

Maybe something a little more realistic.

PG - Jennings / Bev
SG - Harden / McDaniels
SF - Ariza / Dekker
PF - Anderson / Beasley / Harrell
C - Whiteside / Capela

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My offseason wishlist.

Plan A
Get a new coach (JVG?)
Get Durant
Use the rest of the cap space to find role players (a big, a shooter, and another pg)

Plan B
Get a new coach (JVG?)
Get Whiteside
Get one of the following Conley, Barnes, or Beal.
-Barnes & Beal are both restricted so at worst force their teams to match a max.

Edit: I left out Anderson. I want him too in the mix.

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I would rather have Horford than Whiteside. He's a better fit because he can spread the floor with the 3. Also he can take the PF spot if Capela improves as much as he did before this past year. Also there's stamina concerns with Whiteside. I just like Horford more for us because of the versatility and ability to be a rim protecting 5 and a stretch 4 with Capela in.

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We're talking about pretty significant difference in rim protection between Whiteside & Horford. Plus Whiteside comes cheaper.

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I'm definitely on the side of KD most likely signing a 1 yr extension to give it one more go with Russell, then they both go into free agency.

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I think that just makes so much sense.

I actually don't think whiteside will be cheaper. We still have a PF problem if we get Whiteside. If we get Horford it solves both problems, especially if Capela improved more like we think he will. And not to mention another guy who can spread the floor as a big.

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I actually don't think whiteside will be cheaper. We still have a PF problem if we get Whiteside. If we get Horford it solves both problems, especially if Capela improved more like we think he will. And not to mention another guy who can spread the floor as a big.

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I think both will be getting max deals. Whiteside's is cheaper.

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Would love to see JB get another job but just don't see him being a good coach

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I could see him being a good coach for a "grown man" team that is professional and knows how to handle differences properly. The Rockets were anything but that this season. He's got time to grow as a coach...he's 37.

But, that growth needs to occur elsewhere.

give me al horford. I am TIRED of having big men who can't shoot free throws.Horford would make up for the fact that we somehow couldn't get paul milsaps for 2 years 18M when he was a FA

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give me al horford. I am TIRED of having big men who can't shoot free throws.Horford would make up for the fact that we somehow couldn't get paul milsaps for 2 years 18M when he was a FA

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To be fair, Whiteside isn't a horrid free throw shooter. Definitely wouldn't draw hack-a- or anything. This being said Horford is still the better option for this team.

Whiteside shot 65% from the charity stripe.

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give me al horford. I am TIRED of having big men who can't shoot free throws.Horford would make up for the fact that we somehow couldn't get paul milsaps for 2 years 18M when he was a FA

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To be fair, Whiteside isn't a horrid free throw shooter. Definitely wouldn't draw hack-a- or anything. This being said Horford is still the better option for this team.

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anything less than 70% for me is terrible. A professional basketball player shouldn't have FT issues

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give me al horford. I am TIRED of having big men who can't shoot free throws.Horford would make up for the fact that we somehow couldn't get paul milsaps for 2 years 18M when he was a FA

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To be fair, Whiteside isn't a horrid free throw shooter. Definitely wouldn't draw hack-a- or anything. This being said Horford is still the better option for this team.

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anything less than 70% for me is terrible. A professional basketball player shouldn't have FT issues

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Good thing what matters to you doesn't to everyone else.

The following players all had terrible years because they shut under 70% before.
Jabbar
Barkley
Chamberlain
Duncan
Garnett
Kidd
Malone
Shaq
Dream
Pippen
L James
Dr J
Robinson
Ewing
West
Payton
Wilkins
McGrady

At 70% , you are getting 1.4 points per possession. League average is 1.06 points per possession. Golden State led with 1.14 points per possession. Philly was the worst with .99 points per possession. As long as you shoot better than 57%, you are getting a higher points per possession than every team in the NBA.

GS as a team gets away with a ton.

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GS as a team gets away with a ton.

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Just Bogut and Green get away with more than any other NBA team.

i think you're misunderstanding my point. A person who is PAID to play basketball should be able to practice hard enough to consistently hit 70% of their free throws during their careers. Their job is to be good at basketball

i'm not saying any of those players suck, i'm saying it's pathetic that many choose to do nothing about it. Shaq has said the same exact thing about the fact that he wishes he had worked harder and made more free throws. Tim Duncan worked his ass off over his career to fix his FT issues. That dedication is what i'm talking about. We all work to get better at our jobs as we go on, why shouldn't the same standard be held to NBA players?

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i think you're misunderstanding my point. A person who is PAID to play basketball should be able to practice hard enough to consistently hit 70% of their free throws during their careers. Their job is to be good at basketball

i'm not saying any of those players suck, i'm saying it's pathetic that many choose to do nothing about it. Shaq has said the same exact thing about the fact that he wishes he had worked harder and made more free throws. Tim Duncan worked his ass off over his career to fix his FT issues. That dedication is what i'm talking about. We all work to get better at our jobs as we go on, why shouldn't the same standard be held to NBA players?

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All about vanity.

Rick Barry says that anyone with a little practice would hit 90%+ from the line shooting underhanded. Shaq said he would rather shoot FTs at negative 40% than shoot underhanded.

Shooting touch is a skill that can't be gained. It can be developed, but not acquired. Some people just don't have it.

Take Trevor Ariza for example. Mechanically, his shot looks pretty darn good. He just doesn't have hardly any shooting touch.

Whiteside did improve his FT shooting from 50% last year to 65% this year

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i think you're misunderstanding my point. A person who is PAID to play basketball should be able to practice hard enough to consistently hit 70% of their free throws during their careers. Their job is to be good at basketball

i'm not saying any of those players suck, i'm saying it's pathetic that many choose to do nothing about it. Shaq has said the same exact thing about the fact that he wishes he had worked harder and made more free throws. Tim Duncan worked his ass off over his career to fix his FT issues. That dedication is what i'm talking about. We all work to get better at our jobs as we go on, why shouldn't the same standard be held to NBA players?

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Its more than just practicing to improve it. People had said Dwight has worked and worked and worked on his FTs. He can make them at a high clip in practice, but doesn't in the game. I even think I read (may have been someone else) that he's even spoken with a sports psychiatrist about it.

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i think you're misunderstanding my point. A person who is PAID to play basketball should be able to practice hard enough to consistently hit 70% of their free throws during their careers. Their job is to be good at basketball

i'm not saying any of those players suck, i'm saying it's pathetic that many choose to do nothing about it. Shaq has said the same exact thing about the fact that he wishes he had worked harder and made more free throws. Tim Duncan worked his ass off over his career to fix his FT issues. That dedication is what i'm talking about. We all work to get better at our jobs as we go on, why shouldn't the same standard be held to NBA players?

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This is why I don't think the rule should be changed. Why would you reward players that suck?

I agree. In the heat of the moment when your team is suffering due to intentional fouls and poor free throw shooting (Dwight, Capela, Smith) you hate the rule and want it changed. However, when JB did it to Bogut, Ezeli, and Iggy I was all for it.

Leave it the way it is.

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I would put Iguodala at that next level. Bogut and Green definitely get away with much more "extra" stuff.

I've got an idea. Since the issue is that hurts the entertainment factor, I think they should do this:

- If you get intentionally fouled, you have the choice between a.)shooting 1 granny shot and then your team gets the ball side out or b.) you get 2 free throws to shoot normal style and then the other team gets the ball.

That way, if you shoot granny style, everybody is entertained because you have to swallow your pride and the other team will stop intentionally fouling because you get a free throw and the ball. Or, you become good enough shooting normal FTs that the other teams won't intentionally foul you anymore.

I'm against any rule changes in the fouling / FT shooting rules, but if anything was done, that would actually be pretty damn fun to watch.

I've always said that when the foul takes place, whoever has the ball at the time gets an uncontested free shot from where they are standing.

Snd yes, it would be an and 1 if it goes in.

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I've always said that when the foul takes place, whoever has the ball at the time gets an uncontested free shot from where they are standing.

Snd yes, it would be an and 1 if it goes in.

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So why not just foul them as soon as they inbound the ball at the other end of the court? They would never make it.

In my opinion, any time you have a game where breaking the rules is majorly beneficial to the breaker, that's a problem. Even before "hack-a" started, the end of games in basketball has always seemed ridiculous to me.

Personally, I think the team should be able to choose the shooter for offball fouls. At the very least, teams should be able to decline fouls, retain possession and reset the shot clock. Of course, then teams would just foul and try to force you to inbound over and over, so I don't know. But it makes no sense to me that teams can essentially force a turnover at the end of games when possession matters more than points.

The current setup has no equivalent in any other sport that I can think of. It would be like if the defense going offsides would force the other team to kick a field goal, and they can choose who kicks it (every football player should be able to kick field goals, it's called football after all!). It gives way too much advantage to the team that's behind, cheapening what's come before it.

Imo, it should be treated similarly to flagrant fouls. If it was intentional and there was no attempt at a basketball play, the fouling team is assessed a technical foul. The team that was fouled chooses who takes one free throw and then gets the ball side out of bounds.

My objection is less about trying to tweak the rules in favor of entertainment (although it's awful to watch) and more about preventing teams from gaming the rules instead of playing the game. In my mind hack-a-shaq is more like a bad flop than anything else.

I just don't like protecting guys because they suck at a fundamental aspect of basketball. Learning to shoot FTs is elementary level stuff. These guys are making over 10 million a year, they need to do it or suck it up and get embarrassed.