***Official Houston Rockets Quest for the Championship Thread II***

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titanmaster_race
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I wouldn't even let Houstons interim coach be the towel boy. That guy is a joke


This. I get that this is his first head coaching gig, but when all you can say in a huddle is

"Come on guys! .......C'mon!"

Then you should have been canned after day one.
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And it has to be deflating for everyone else on the team to watch Harden never hustle down the court unless he's got the ball in his hands.
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And it has to be deflating for everyone else on the team to watch Harden never hustle down the court unless he's got the ball in his hands.

Refer to my previous post on my feelings on this. It is nearly impossible to constantly hustle back when you're playing 43 mpg and doing literally everything on offense for the team.
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And it has to be deflating for everyone else on the team to watch Harden never hustle down the court unless he's got the ball in his hands.

Refer to my previous post on my feelings on this. It is nearly impossible to constantly hustle back when you're playing 43 mpg and doing literally everything on offense for the team.
It's not just the times when he doesn't hustle back, it's the times when he stands there and points at someone else while a player waltzes to the basket (Knicks game), the times when he just stands at the rim while an opponent swoops in and gets an easy put-back (Pistons game), and I don't know how many times he's just wandered around aimlessly while his man cuts to the basket.

His track record gives him zero benefit of the doubt when it comes to defensive effort. He seems disinterested in it much too often.
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Refer to my previous post on my feelings on this. It is nearly impossible to constantly hustle back when you're playing 43 mpg and doing literally everything on offense for the team.


It's not just that. It's also coming into the season overweight. What message does that send to the team after signing a gigantic contract with adidas in th season. That's the beef some have.
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What reporter asked that question to Draymond? Come on....,

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/04/24/reporter-asks-draymond-green-compare-warriors-rockets-houston-floods-video?xid=si_social
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Harden had 7 steals
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Harden had 7 steals
Lazy people get steals all the time. They don't keep a "steals attempted, but missed and man backcut for an easy layup" stat.
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I choose to not spend my entire year *****ing about Harden's defense by thinking about where we would be without him. Y'all act like he's some scrub who shouldn't even be playing when in reality he's a top 4 offensive player in the world and top 7 player in the world.
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Harden had 7 steals
Lazy people get steals all the time. They don't keep a "steals attempted, but missed and man backcut for an easy layup" stat.

But still 7 is a **** ton that must be a ton of luck to get that many. I haven't seen that many from anybody too many times. Still definitely worth noting in my opinion
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I choose to not spend my entire year *****ing about Harden's defense by thinking about where we would be without him. Y'all act like he's some scrub who shouldn't even be playing when in reality he's a top 4 offensive player in the world and top 7 player in the world.
I'd agree with you on him being a top 4 offensive player. Probably #3 behind Steph and KD. However, to say he's a top 7 player overall adds in a bunch of other factors, such as defense, leadership, the undefinable "it" factor, heart, killer instinct on both ends, effort, etc. In that case, I'd say he's not top 7. I'd rather have all the following players on our team if I had to decide between them and James:

Steph
Lebron
KD
Kawhi
Russell
Paul George
Anthony Davis
Lillard
Aldridge
CP3
Jimmy Butler
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I didn't watch this game, but in a lot of the defensive lowlights Harden drifts off his man toward the top of the key where he's in the vicinity of a lot of passing lanes and Ling rebounds. Sometimes he gets a steal/board and jumpstarts the fastbreak, other times he gives up an open three or backdoor cut.

Chris Paul does the same thing. He is aware enough that he rarely loses his man because of it, but fairly frequently he does give up the step that lets the offensive player get into the paint. The Clippers with DeAndre are much sharper on their rotations, and Paul is really good at subtle grabs and bumps as his man goes by that let him get back in the play. If Harden wants to take risks to get steals, he ought to learn some of the same tricks.
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What reporter asked that question to Draymond? Come on....,

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/04/24/reporter-asks-draymond-green-compare-warriors-rockets-houston-floods-video?xid=si_social


Good for Draymond. Not a popular opinion on this board, but I like the guy.
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I choose to not spend my entire year *****ing about Harden's defense by thinking about where we would be without him. Y'all act like he's some scrub who shouldn't even be playing when in reality he's a top 4 offensive player in the world and top 7 player in the world.
I'd agree with you on him being a top 4 offensive player. Probably #3 behind Steph and KD. However, to say he's a top 7 player overall adds in a bunch of other factors, such as defense, leadership, the undefinable "it" factor, heart, killer instinct on both ends, effort, etc. In that case, I'd say he's not top 7. I'd rather have all the following players on our team if I had to decide between them and James:

Steph
Lebron
KD
Kawhi
Russell
Paul George
Anthony Davis
Lillard
Aldridge
CP3
Jimmy Butler
i love how you talk about defense as a factor and then put lillard in your list....
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We better lose this last game so we can fire JB and hire JVG before the Lakers try to.
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We better lose this last game so we can fire JB and hire JVG before the Lakers try to.


Agreed. Just put us out of our misery.
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Even if Curry isn't hurt, he should be suspended. Can't have players punching refs in the face.

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Ban over...finally, more time well-served.

Tonight was an absolute roller coaster ending in absolute torture. 30 pt deficit created out of ****ing thin air. JBB flat out sucks, Harden doesn't give a flying ****, zero team chemistry, zero heart, list goes on and on.

Can't stress enough either how much I HATE that ring mouth Draymond Green and that bulldog face, shot legs POS Igoudala.
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Even if Curry isn't hurt, he should be suspended. Can't have players punching refs in the face.



That was pretty accidental
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Ban over...finally, more time well-served.

Tonight was an absolute roller coaster ending in absolute torture. 30 pt deficit created out of ****ing thin air. JBB flat out sucks, Harden doesn't give a flying ****, zero team chemistry, zero heart, list goes on and on.

Can't stress enough either how much I HATE that ring mouth Draymond Green and that bulldog face, shot legs POS Igoudala.
You may hate them, but they are exactly the reason why the Rockets suck and the Warriors are so good.

They are the opposite of that descriptive list you posted about the Rockets: The give a million flying ****s, they are the core of team chemistry, all heart and the list goes on and on. You can hate them all you want, but hopefully you recognize what they do on the court. Their toughness alone is good enough to beat the rockets, they really don't even need Thompson or Curry.

I hate soft teams, and that is exactly what we are. SOFT.

If the Rockets hope to win anything in the future, they need more Draymond/Iggy and less of what they currently have. We need toughness more than anything.
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Ban over...finally, more time well-served.

Tonight was an absolute roller coaster ending in absolute torture. 30 pt deficit created out of ****ing thin air. JBB flat out sucks, Harden doesn't give a flying ****, zero team chemistry, zero heart, list goes on and on.

Can't stress enough either how much I HATE that ring mouth Draymond Green and that bulldog face, shot legs POS Igoudala.
I'm sorry but what?! Harden played 40 straight minutes and was physically drained from putting the team on his back for as long as he could. If you think for even a second that James is a problem or has been in this series you are just looking for reasons to be mad.

His line was 18-10-7.....you can't ask for much better than that from the guy who you run your entire offense through. Hell, pretty much all of Dwights 19 points were a result of Harden cutting and throwing the alley.
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Ban over...finally, more time well-served.

Tonight was an absolute roller coaster ending in absolute torture. 30 pt deficit created out of ****ing thin air. JBB flat out sucks, Harden doesn't give a flying ****, zero team chemistry, zero heart, list goes on and on.

Can't stress enough either how much I HATE that ring mouth Draymond Green and that bulldog face, shot legs POS Igoudala.
I'm sorry but what?! Harden played 40 straight minutes and was physically drained from putting the team on his back for as long as he could. If you think for even a second that James is a problem or has been in this series you are just looking for reasons to be mad.

His line was 18-10-7.....you can't ask for much better than that from the guy who you run your entire offense through. Hell, pretty much all of Dwights 19 points were a result of Harden cutting and throwing the alley.
Bro, a lot of those minutes were on defense. Harden didn't play near 40 straight minutes.
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Ban over...finally, more time well-served.

Tonight was an absolute roller coaster ending in absolute torture. 30 pt deficit created out of ****ing thin air. JBB flat out sucks, Harden doesn't give a flying ****, zero team chemistry, zero heart, list goes on and on.

Can't stress enough either how much I HATE that ring mouth Draymond Green and that bulldog face, shot legs POS Igoudala.
You may hate them, but they are exactly the reason why the Rockets suck and the Warriors are so good.

They are the opposite of that descriptive list you posted about the Rockets: The give a million flying ****s, they are the core of team chemistry, all heart and the list goes on and on. You can hate them all you want, but hopefully you recognize what they do on the court. Their toughness alone is good enough to beat the rockets, they really don't even need Thompson or Curry.

I hate soft teams, and that is exactly what we are. SOFT.

If the Rockets hope to win anything in the future, they need more Draymond/Iggy and less of what they currently have. We need toughness more than anything.


Yup. Hate them all you want, but they are core to the Warriors winning. Green is easily the 2nd most important player on the Warriors. Dude plays hard, tons of minutes, plays all 5 on the floor at times, team player, does the little things, is crafty, etc. And, never has off court issues. Any NBA fan would want him on their team.
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Green is our Beverley but an all-star. I hate Green but would love him on our team.
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Harden had 7 steals
Lazy people get steals all the time. They don't keep a "steals attempted, but missed and man backcut for an easy layup" stat.


aka the "Caruso"
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Ban over...finally, more time well-served.

Tonight was an absolute roller coaster ending in absolute torture. 30 pt deficit created out of ****ing thin air. JBB flat out sucks, Harden doesn't give a flying ****, zero team chemistry, zero heart, list goes on and on.

Can't stress enough either how much I HATE that ring mouth Draymond Green and that bulldog face, shot legs POS Igoudala.
I'm sorry but what?! Harden played 40 straight minutes and was physically drained from putting the team on his back for as long as he could. If you think for even a second that James is a problem or has been in this series you are just looking for reasons to be mad.

His line was 18-10-7.....you can't ask for much better than that from the guy who you run your entire offense through. Hell, pretty much all of Dwights 19 points were a result of Harden cutting and throwing the alley.
Bro, a lot of those minutes were on defense. Harden didn't play near 40 straight minutes.


So stupid.
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I think we are all hoping that another summer with Coach K and Team USA will bring back 2014-2015 James and we can all forget that the whole 2015-2016 Rockets never happened.
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Ban over...finally, more time well-served.

Tonight was an absolute roller coaster ending in absolute torture. 30 pt deficit created out of ****ing thin air. JBB flat out sucks, Harden doesn't give a flying ****, zero team chemistry, zero heart, list goes on and on.

Can't stress enough either how much I HATE that ring mouth Draymond Green and that bulldog face, shot legs POS Igoudala.
You may hate them, but they are exactly the reason why the Rockets suck and the Warriors are so good.

They are the opposite of that descriptive list you posted about the Rockets: The give a million flying ****s, they are the core of team chemistry, all heart and the list goes on and on. You can hate them all you want, but hopefully you recognize what they do on the court. Their toughness alone is good enough to beat the rockets, they really don't even need Thompson or Curry.

I hate soft teams, and that is exactly what we are. SOFT.

If the Rockets hope to win anything in the future, they need more Draymond/Iggy and less of what they currently have. We need toughness more than anything.


Of course I recognize what these players bring to the Warriors' table and I'm jealous because we don't have any. I can still hate them though.
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Curry with a Grade 1 Sprain, will be reevaluated in 2 weeks.
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Curry has Grade 1 sprain to his knee. Will be re-evaluated in 2 weeks
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Dammit Soup
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We got this
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**** IT, ROCKETS IN 7
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We win game 5 and the series is ours!
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