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Who wouldn't want the greatest coach in SPORTS HISTORY to come back.

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Whoa there buddy.

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Would've preferred Phil, but Dantoni is still a great hire.

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Could the Bill Simmons nightmare scenario be happening?

1. Hire Dantoni
2. Pau traded to ATL for Josh Smith + Kyle Korver + Petros expiring

I also think Nash and Howard must've voted for Dantoni behind closed doors. That, and the stubbornness of LA to not have to go BACK to Phil again is what did this.

D'Antoni is better than Brown in that he won't really get in the way. They've got the offensive talent to blitz people and he'll get Nash-Howard running the pick and roll. It'll be hard not to have a decent defense with Howard/Bryant/Artest and even Gasol, who is no Howard but still a credible shotblocking threat.

D'Antoni also has experience handling Amare Stoudemire, which may come in handy trying to balance Kobe's ego, Howard's immaturity, and the rest of Kobe's ego. Nothing can help with Artest, he's a jack-in-the-box of crazy. Model citizen and player until the spring gets wound too tight and he starts swinging.

Mr Bond,

PJ won 11 championships in 20 seasons as a head coach. Who do you think is better?

Great NBA coaches are kind of a chicken and egg thing... does the coach make the players great or do the players make the coach great. I'm not saying Jackson isn't the best ever, it's just hard to make comparisons to a guy who got Jordan/Pippen in their primes then Shaq/Kobe in their primes. Those pairs probably make almost any coach look great. I like Pop and he's done great things, but he has also had Duncan his entire career. All 5 of those players would have been great and probably won a couple titles no matter who the coach was.

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PJ won 11 championships in 20 seasons as a head coach. Who do you think is better?

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I could win 6 with Kobe and Mike but that's not the point. Jackson is a very good/great coach. Lombardi did more with less. I think Saban is a better coach than Phil. On your logic joe torre is the greatest coach of all time in baseball which isn't true

Simmons jsut said he thinks Jackson was only coming back for the $$$$ and the control of roster decisions. Major mail in potential.

Lets not forget, the triangle got absolutley owned by Dallas last time Phil was here. he also flamed out with the Shaq/Kobe/Malone/Payton team.

I still would've preferred Phil. but D'antoni is a good hire. Run and gun. And if he can get Macmillian as the defensive coach as well...perfect.

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Mr Bond,

PJ won 11 championships in 20 seasons as a head coach. Who do you think is better?

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I could win 6 with Kobe and Mike but that's not the point. Jackson is a very good/great coach. Lombardi did more with less. I think Saban is a better coach than Phil. On your logic joe torre is the greatest coach of all time in baseball which isn't true

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I would entertain Lombardi in the conversation, but not Saban or any other college coach. If you don't do it at the highest level, you can't be the best.

It's a good hire. But the Lakers are going to really have to step up their outside shooting if the offense has any hope at running at its full potential.

In what world do you live where D'antoni, with a .533 head coach winning %and a .473 playoff win %, is a good hire?

Not saying he can't be better than he has ever been, but this is not some great hire.

Its a desperation move.

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Who wouldn't want the greatest coach in SPORTS HISTORY to come back.

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Why are we discussing Dan Gable?

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Who wouldn't want the greatest coach in SPORTS HISTORY to come back.

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Why are we discussing Dan Gable?

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Haha. I've had the privilege of learning from Dan at a wrestling seminar. He and Gene Lebell are up there with the most knowlegeable coaches I've ever met. Great guy, great coach! I still wouldn't rank a coach in wrestling, however accomplished, higher than an 11 time NBA champion with a .702 win percentage. I guess I just value coaching in team sports more.

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In what world do you live where D'antoni, with a .533 head coach winning %

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This isn't the New York Knick roster we are talking about here....It's a good hire in that the players obviously weren't receptive to Brown. It'll give the Lakers some new life, you would think. I don't think it necessarily makes them a contender though.

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This isn't the New York Knick roster we are talking about here....It's a good hire in that the players obviously weren't receptive to Brown. It'll give the Lakers some new life, you would think. I don't think it necessarily makes them a contender though.

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You're right. The lakers are much older and slower.

Makes total sense

I get the feeling that Dr Buss' idiot son wants to show daddy that they can win without Phil. Stupid is what stupid does.

Dr. Buss was on board with this decision.

Correct.

this is all about Nash/Howard. Gasol was going to be dumped after this season (he's too expensive and older now)

they will trade him for a younger swingman. And Jerry wants showtime. Phil got butt r@ped by Dallas and the previous all start roster flopped. Once Kobe signed off on D'Antoni, it was a no brainer.

Also, if the Lakers still had Bynum, i believe they would've gone with Phil.

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Dr. Buss was on board with this decision.

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Probably because Phil was smangin' his daughter and asking for a cut of the ownership stake.

Interesting read from the Woj

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Jackson wanted to humiliate Lakers vice president Jim Buss far more than he wanted to coach the team. He wanted significant allowances on travel, coaching duties and an ability to veto player personnel moves that didn't fit his vision. With an unprecedented 11 coaching championships, Jackson had every right to make unprecedented demands. He doesn't have the right to be surprised when the Lakers rejected them and hired a pliable, cheaper coach in Mike D'Antoni.

"Phil wanted Jim Buss to walk away with his tail between his legs," one source with knowledge of the discussions told Yahoo! Sports. "He thought he had time to still negotiate with them, and see how much they would give him."

Now, the Lakers are going out of their way to spare Jackson the embarrassment of his overreaching, but this is pointless spin. They're working with him to sell the public that he hadn't asked for too much, that somehow the franchise chose D'Antoni over Jackson on sheer merit. It's noble, but laughable. Jackson heard those chants in the Staples Center and never believed the Lakers had the guts to call his bluff before circling back to him on Monday.

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stupid.

Simple, that .gif is awesome

I wonder if a young Phil Jackson or Pat Riley (before they had won their championships) would have been allowed to coach these types of teams nowadays?

I was thinking, and didn't D'Antoni just get fired because he was going to miss the playoffs with a superteam that immediately went on a hot streak with a new coach?

Kobe/Nash/Howard/Gasol/Artest is much stronger at guard than Anthony/Stoudemire/Chandler/Lin, but still. I just don't understand a team with championship aspirations hiring D'Antoni.

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D'Antoni is definitely an upgrade over Mike Brown.

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This, though there are a couple of unknowns, mainly that Nash is about to turn 39. Not sure how long he's gonna be able to effectively run D'Antoni's uptempo offense. Also, how will Kobe handle not being the undisputed scoring king?

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how will Kobe handle not being the undisputed scoring king?

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Kobe is in for the rings. As long as they're winning, he'll be happy. I expect he will still put up big numbers as well.

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Nash is about to turn 39. Not sure how long he's gonna be able to effectively run D'Antoni's uptempo offense

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I don't think they are going to run D'Antoni's traditional Phoenix Suns uptempo offense because the parts are different, and the age of the team and the depth are prohibitive from doing so.

But I do think D'Antoni is a very smart offensive coach, and he will easily be able to adapt to the different talent.