*****Official USA vs Brazil match thread*****

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Both keepers had excellent games. Good opportunities and great saves.
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aggiephoenix02 said:

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So he 2 changes?

Do we not have a CB with any speed?
I love Ream but dude has fallen off a shelf in terms of his play.


Hot takes that don't age well. He played phenomenally. .
Old Man Ream got beat at least twice that lead to breakaway 1 on 1 attacks on goal. Turner came up big both times…


Those guys beat everyone. But you're right.
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Rudyjax said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

Rudyjax said:

Rudyjax said:

So he 2 changes?

Do we not have a CB with any speed?
I love Ream but dude has fallen off a shelf in terms of his play.


Hot takes that don't age well. He played phenomenally. .
Old Man Ream got beat at least twice that lead to breakaway 1 on 1 attacks on goal. Turner came up big both times…


Those guys beat everyone. But you're right.
But, other than those couple of times, you're right, Ream played really well, and that bodes well for the tournament…

Edit: Maybe our defense isn't the worst, at least not 5-1 bad.
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aggiephoenix02 said:

Rudyjax said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

Rudyjax said:

Rudyjax said:

So he 2 changes?

Do we not have a CB with any speed?
I love Ream but dude has fallen off a shelf in terms of his play.


Hot takes that don't age well. He played phenomenally. .
Old Man Ream got beat at least twice that lead to breakaway 1 on 1 attacks on goal. Turner came up big both times…


Those guys beat everyone. But you're right.
But, other than those couple of times, you're right, Ream played really well, and that bodes well for the tournament…

Edit: Maybe our defense isn't the worst, at least not 5-1 bad.
If Turner isn't seeing the ball well, it's probably 5-1.

but, he was and it wasn't.

Of course, if Allison isn't, we probably score 3. So...

1-1 draw I'll take it.
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I was impressed with the quality of our subs. I say this thinking forward towards the tournament, the subs had good performances…
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Was I reading too much into it, but were our first touches so much bigger than Brazil's?
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Was I also imagining that Weston before a corner had both his hands on Brazilian's shoulders and the Weston was smiling and the Brazilian didn't care?
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Wes is always talking and messing with folks. It's fun to watch.
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I saw that too, right before a corner. I couldn't tell if they knew each other, or if it was gamesmanship/housery…
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aggiephoenix02 said:

I saw that too, right before a corner. I couldn't tell if they knew each other, or if it was gamesmanship/housery…
I think it was a teammate on Juventus, but even still, I wouldn't let my brother do that to me. LOL
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What a beautifully designed and executed set piece.

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Looking at the stats, we had no business tying this match.

-And also, Pulisic's stats were right up there with Vini and Rodrygo.

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Is this what they call playing out of the back?



If Musah(?) hits Pulisic at 1:13 it's a goal.
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Rudyjax said:

Is this what they call playing out of the back?



If Musah(?) hits Pulisic at 1:13 it's a goal.


Beautiful build up. It would have been an opportunity at goal, but lots of work left to do to call that a goal.
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Aston94 said:

Rudyjax said:

Is this what they call playing out of the back?



If Musah(?) hits Pulisic at 1:13 it's a goal.


Beautiful build up. It would have been an opportunity at goal, but lots of work left to do to call that a goal.
Yeah, you're probably right.

If he hits him in stride angling to the back post, he should at least get a shot off.
I think he nails it.

Edit: Just tried to diagram how it would be a goal, and I was wrong. It would've taken a lot of work.
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Rudyjax said:

Was I also imagining that Weston before a corner had both his hands on Brazilian's shoulders and the Weston was smiling and the Brazilian didn't care?


That was Danilo. They are teammates at Juventus.
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jeffk said:

Pretty quiet post-game here.

I thought our two CBs played much better than they did Saturday. Scally too and he had the toughest assignment of the bunch. Jedi still doesn't look in great form. Hope he shakes that quickly.

Midfield was fine, but not nearly as lively as I've seen them in other good team performances. Wes looked out of sorts or uncomfortable to me. Gio and Musa were okay, but I can't wait for Adams to be able to provide more minutes.

The attacking line was our best group on the field I thought. Pepi didn't see much of the ball but he occupied defenders and opened up spaces for CP and Weah and pressured the Brazilians in possession well. We ran at the Brazilians all night and generated 7 shots on goal, which doesn't match what Brazil generated at the other end, but is still a lot for us vs a talented team.

All in all, it was a great rebound from Saturday and a good way to lead into Copa.


Agreed, although I think credit needs to be given to McKennie, Musah and Reyna on their defensive work, they really worked hard to assist on the wings and help protect the defense.

I think our best 3 midfielders are Adams, McKennie and Musah. I don't know where to put Gio, wish we would try him as a false 9 and take out the forward. But maybe he can't occupy the CD and then Puli and Weah get lost.
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Rudyjax said:

Looking at the stats, we had no business tying this match.

-And also, Pulisic's stats were right up there with Vini and Rodrygo.




Stats are funny. Looking at Saturday's, we had no business losing 5-1.
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jeffk said:

Rudyjax said:

Looking at the stats, we had no business tying this match.

-And also, Pulisic's stats were right up there with Vini and Rodrygo.




Stats are funny. Looking at Saturday's, we had no business losing 5-1.
Except for the 5.

( I know what you mean.)
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I know this wasn't a counter, but is Ggg joystick coaching these guys?

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USMNT fan Twitter is such a **** -show.
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Rudyjax said:

I know this wasn't a counter, but is Ggg joystick coaching these guys?


I am a GGG hater, but this guy is stupid. There is no obvious pass forward, so it is better to retain possession to play out of the back (like earlier in the thread). Matt Turner made a very poor decision, and that is what cost us. Not GGG saying pass it back which is the obvious pass at the time. Also that is very common for coaches to do. You should see Mikel Arteta. It is this x1000.
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Rudyjax said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

I saw that too, right before a corner. I couldn't tell if they knew each other, or if it was gamesmanship/housery…
I think it was a teammate on Juventus, but even still, I wouldn't let my brother do that to me. LOL
I thought I heard the announcer say the same thing, they were just messing because they are teammates.

Sorry...just saw Aston say the same thing too...so +3.
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I thought our centerbacks played great, but especially Chris Richards. Really wish Bayern had hung on to him.

I thought Jedi's play was pretty disappointing from his normal standards. Midfield was kind of disappointing too but that's mainly because we hardly had any possession outside a couple of spells.

Weah didn't have his best game in my eyes but Pulisic had a heck of a performance.
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Good to see them bounce back. Hopefully we can make some noise this tourney.
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XG from game was Brazil 2.2 and USMNT 1.2. The xG for US was a bit lower than I would have thought, given Puli and Aaronson's chances. Would have expected a 2.4 to 1.6 type xG.

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Midfield: B, I thought Weston did a lot of the dirty work helping protect the back line, defending passing lanes etc. I thought Musah tried to dribble too much in the defensive half. Gio had a good but not great showing.

GK: A-, questionable long kicks, excellent saves

Back line: B+, Ream and Scollay played well

Attacking players: B. Pulisic was good, need to finish the great chance in front of goal. Zero forced corners. Crosses into the box lacked quality. Good patience in final third for the most part.
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I saw someone with our xG at 1.7 last night. Can't find it now.
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Not sure how valid the stats are but these guys had US xG @ 1.48 and Brazil @ 2.87

Footy Stats
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The 1.7 might have been a mistake as I can't find anything above 1.5 now.

There is a margin of error to xG so it's pretty common to see slightly different numbers from different outlets.
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Maybe a controversial take, but I actually like both of the Nike uniforms currently. I didn't like them at release and still don't think I'd ever buy them to wear myself, but they're bright and distinctively USA when you turn the game broadcast on.
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"Could've had a counter attack..."

Sir, do you know what that word means? It's not what you saw. That's just a guy who saw an opportunity to make a video of him yelling and sounding "smart" when he saw the US give up a goal after Berhalter told them to play it back to Turner.
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Dre_00 said:

"Could've had a counter attack..."

Sir, do you know what that word means? It's not what you saw. That's just a guy who saw an opportunity to make a video of him yelling and sounding "smart" when he saw the US give up a goal after Berhalter told them to play it back to Turner.


Agreed, there are a lot of things I don't like about Berhalter, but telling your team to possess the ball against one of the most dangerous teams in the world isn't one of them.

The reason Turner doesn't see the pitch in the EPL was on full display on that goal. Terrible pass to the middle of the pitch.
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Aston94 said:


The reason Turner doesn't see the pitch in the EPL was on full display on that goal. Terrible pass to the middle of the pitch.


Andre Onana would like a quiet word with you about EPL GKers who make terrible passes in the middle of the pitch.
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Mathguy64 said:

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The reason Turner doesn't see the pitch in the EPL was on full display on that goal. Terrible pass to the middle of the pitch.


Andre Onana would like a quiet word with you about EPL GKers who make terrible passes in the middle of the pitch.


Man, nothing quiet about Onana's mistakes. If Onana were American he wouldn't see the pitch for a League Two English club.
 
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