* WC Group B thread (England, Iran, USA, Wales) *

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Agthatbuilds
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MookieBlaylock said:

Why don't we just win the group?


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Agthatbuilds said:

MookieBlaylock said:

Why don't we just win the group?





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Wales has a realistic chance of beating England, it'll be the third group game and England likely to be assured of 1st place seeding. I see them resting the starters and playing their bench. Wales will be playing for their lives and could leave the group with 4 points.
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birdman said:

I forgot they changed the scoring. Leave my silly post up there unedited. It won't bother me too much.


Youth tournaments it's 3 for a win. 1 for a tie. 1 point for every goal up to 3 points. 1 point for a shut out.

So a 3 nil win is 10.
1 nil is 5.
A 0-0 tie is 2.

A 3-3 tie is 4.
Etc.
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OhLongJohnson said:

Wales has a realistic chance of beating England, it'll be the third group game and England likely to be assured of 1st place seeding. I see them resting the starters and playing their bench. Wales will be playing for their lives and could leave the group with 4 points.


Assuming England wins today. C'mon bruh.give us a shot.
Agthatbuilds
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After today, England is gonna be tied for 2nd in the group with Iran
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I'm assuming Hennessey will be serving a 1 game suspension for the red card right? So they'll be playing their backup keeper.

Even if England rested their starters from starting lineup against Iran, here's what they'll be chosing from:
GK: Ramsdale/Pope
Defenders: TAA, Eric Dier, Kyle Walker (not sure he's healthy yet), Ben White, Connor Coady (Don't see a LB)
MF: Conor Gallagher, Henderson, Phillips (not sure he's healthy yet)
Attackers: Graelish, Foden, Rashford, Wilson

Still would be challenging for Wales to get a win against England. Surprisingly they've only played 6 times since 2000 with England winning all 6 times, most recently 3-0 in a friendly in 2020.
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I know Iran looked good, but if you told me we just (basically) had to beat Iran to advance, I would have taken that no questions asked before the tournament. Not that Iran is bad, but it's the World Cup. There are few bad teams.
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That's the point. We don't deserve to automatically progress to KO's. At this point in GGG's tenure, when we play non-concacaf opponents that are good we fall flat on our face.
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England isn't laying down for a rival in whales.
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Iran is going to park the bus and be playing for a tie
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KCup17 said:

That's the point. We don't deserve to automatically progress to KO's. At this point in GGG's tenure, when we play non-concacaf opponents that are good we fall flat on our face.


The two teams we lost to in September appear to be pretty damn good.
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Not after we beat England
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Exactly. England 2nd string is still stacked and gonna be fresh and wanting to impress to get into the starting 11.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

KCup17 said:

That's the point. We don't deserve to automatically progress to KO's. At this point in GGG's tenure, when we play non-concacaf opponents that are good we fall flat on our face.

The two teams we lost to in September appear to be pretty damn good.


We only lost once…

But that isn't the point. The point is we do not play tough competition in Concacaf, we already struggle to beat those opponents away from home and on top of that the last team we scored on that qualified for the WC was Morocco. So it is fair to say we underperform when playing quality opposition.
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Yeah England's second team attack is Rashford, Grealish, and Callum Wilson. Not too much of a drop off…
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So I watched the first half of Iran/Wales via the key plays feature on YTTV and stopped it to watch in real-time just before the post/post/straight to keeper sequence.

What a match!!! I'm kind of glad Iran got the 2nd one on the off chance that Wales somehow beats England. Iran is easy to root for - a sentence I never thought I would utter.

Let's beat England today and if we can't let's tie or lose by 1.
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PJYoung said:

Let's beat England today and if we can't let's tie or lose by 1.
Im on board with this plan…
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KCup17
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Death before embarrassment
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Netherlands is beatable ... IF we get 2nd in our group I sure hope they win Group A. I'd love to take 1st in our group though
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what did the player do to get the red card?
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LB12Diamond said:

what did the player do to get the red card?


Kneed the player in the face as the last defender…could have been red in 2 ways
PatAg
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Not even sure how I expect ourselves or Iran to play, I would imagine Iran is potentially looking to counter us like they did Wales? Just a lot of speed and pressure all over the field
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PatAg said:

Not even sure how I expect ourselves or Iran to play, I would imagine Iran is potentially looking to counter us like they did Wales? Just a lot of speed and pressure all over the field


Iran probably only needs a draw to advance now, so I doubt they will take a ton of chances until they have to.
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If wales wins, Iran is the odd man out in a draw scenario, Wales and England advance, barring a massively lopsided Wales win.
Not sure Iran can play too conservatively given that scenario and the upsets that have happened thus far.
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Gordo14 said:

PatAg said:

Not even sure how I expect ourselves or Iran to play, I would imagine Iran is potentially looking to counter us like they did Wales? Just a lot of speed and pressure all over the field


Iran probably only needs a draw to advance now, so I doubt they will take a ton of chances until they have to.
I think if they truly try to sit back, then that plays in our favor.
We have generally struggled when teams press us hard like Iran did Wales.
I do get your point, and I think its very possible they do that. Since the presses can leaev you very vulnerable if it gets broken.
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oragator said:

If wales wins, Iran is the odd man out in a draw scenario, Wales and England advance, barring a massively lopsided Wales win.
Not sure Iran can play too conservatively given that scenario and the upsets that have happened thus far.


They can also win the group with just a draw in the other game so they'll have reason to not completely bunker
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Tuesday is an enternity away
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PatAg said:

Gordo14 said:

PatAg said:

Not even sure how I expect ourselves or Iran to play, I would imagine Iran is potentially looking to counter us like they did Wales? Just a lot of speed and pressure all over the field


Iran probably only needs a draw to advance now, so I doubt they will take a ton of chances until they have to.
I think if they truly try to sit back, then that plays in our favor.
We have generally struggled when teams press us hard like Iran did Wales.
I do get your point, and I think its very possible they do that. Since the presses can leaev you very vulnerable if it gets broken.


We've shown absolutely no capability to breakdown a low block... And they know we have to score to win.
akm91
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I suspect we'll see an attacking starting XI against Iran. Wonder how much Dest, McKennie and Adams have left in the tank.
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I want Gio Tuesday to start
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This is an interesting post about English/ Americans…

MookieBlaylock
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What English Americans? Damn click bait
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Alex Mighten has declared for the US?
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