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Farmer_J said:

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Listed as 6'-0" and 200lbs, which means he's more like 5'-10" and 185lbs. Not impressive in his last game, could have just been "one of those games", but I'm highly suspect on this kid to play WB in the SEC. A bonus would be if we can get his 5* WR, Jerome Myles, flipped from USC.

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Would that be the Jerome Myles that we signed last December?

I think Reed will get better and we will be a 9-3 type team next year.

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The problems with Marcel are:

1) Indecision/holding the ball too long. He passes up positive yards scrambling because he doesn't take the easy yards. This has led to sacks, weird fumbles or just throwing the ball away when he could have picked 5, 10, 20+ yards running.

2) extremely inaccurate in his check downs. In the Miami game alone we probably could have picked up 7-8 more first downs with simple check down passes. Instead he threw the ball over receivers/RB's heads or behind them stopping their forward momentum.

3) When the pocket/play breaks down and he throws on the run I have zero confidence of a completion. Once he starts to move his mechanics break down so bad a completion is unlikely. When JFF started to get flushed it almost always led to him taking off on a big run or a big completion. With Marcel I have little to no hope when the play goes off schedule.

When he came in for Weigman in the LSU game he excelled as he was decisive and was run focused. He tries to avoid running at all cost. That maybe offensive scheme as he is small framed and they are worried about injury? He is not going to put on weight and because of that and his other deficiencies I don't see the NFL calling him up early. If Elko is loyal to him we are in for 2 more seasons as outlined above unless he improves.

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We had 89 yards rushing and they had 7 sacks. Why can't anyone with eyes see what our problems were. If we had 200 yards rushing and zero sacks we would be singing his praises. We need to focus on fixing what needs to be fixed and not listening to this terrible analysis.

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The rest of the offense and play calling did Reed no favors. In addition to that the OL had a lot of issues with the Miami DL. You can't blame Reed for those issues. But if you look at my post and watch the game and the other games where Reed struggles you have to see his faults as well.

I hope he improves and becomes the QB we need in our offense. He needs to make quicker decisions of when to run, improve his accuracy, and continue to work on his mechanics to improve. He seems like a good kid and a hard worker so I hope that he does.

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Reed is not good, we need a QB that shows up when it matters, not just to interviews and podcasts.

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Reed is good. He did not play great and yes, struggled in the big ones. Other aspects fell short in big moments too.

NCs can be had with "good" QBs. Spend the money on the OL/DL and go get Cam. Happy with with one portal WR as Craver will be back but two would be ideal given the liklihood of inujry in general. Looks like we will need TEs too. The idea that we can go get alll of that done while also paying millions for another QB is unrealistic, I think.

If we move the run game/OL to elite then Reed is more than capable of taking this team deep.

Do the same on the other side. Create a nasty front that dominates the LOS and this team is scary, even with a good not great QB.

We shall see...

In Elko we trust! BTHO everybody!!

Reed is the starting QB next year.

Ags complaining about it are wasting their time even more than they already do with other topics that are non topics.

To each their own.

I'll focus on what the O line make up will be and Elko cleaning up the run defense. Actual topics worth discussing that will affect next season the most.

He's going to keep Reed and not add a transfer portal QB.

It'll be a disappointing season and we will be wondering "why didn't he get anybody from the portal?!"

Then we will all be wondering why we extended/raised yet again and what new assistants he will be bringing in

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Reed is staying. We already got that message from Elko.

And we're not getting a potential starter to come in and compete with him. Nor are we paying starter level money to two QB.

So we can drop this idea, and the 50 or so threads that talk about it.

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Theyve already said they arent grtting rid of him. The staff need to work with Reed on mechanics, decision making and scheme around what he is good at. IMO he will not ever be a pocket passing threat. He is a mobile qb so use that, give him easy progressions and allow him to quick bail out or just design runs for him when a team over commits.

we lost to tu because of a defensive breakdown in the second half. We could not contain Arch and he had his way with us. yes, we couldn't score in the second half, but we had the lead and the defense just laid an egg. That is on Elko. The one game this season where I think he was completely out-coached in the second half.

Reed had his issues that game (as usual), but we got bullied on the defensive side of the ball.

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I don't think any of those guys is an upward move.

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He's going to keep Reed and not add a transfer portal QB.

It'll be a disappointing season and we will be wondering "why didn't he get anybody from the portal?!"

Then we will all be wondering why we extended/raised yet again and what new assistants he will be bringing in

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or when he plays better and is better we will be saying man im glad we stuck with Reed... can go either way..

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we lost to tu because of a defensive breakdown in the second half. We could not contain Arch and he had his way with us. yes, we couldn't score in the second half, but we had the lead and the defense just laid an egg. That is on Elko. The one game this season where I think he was completely out-coached in the second half.

Reed had his issues that game (as usual), but we got bullied on the defensive side of the ball.

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Texas kept trying to run. We did not. We handed the ball off 9 times in a second half where we started with the lead. texas handed the ball off 19 times in a second half they started with a deficit.

Play calling in the last 3 real games was terrible.

I don't disagree with this, but we also needed the defense to hold. We were the only team the entire season to allow tu to rush for over 100 yards in a game. Reed may have been injured in that game (and the last 2 games to be fair), but not having a go to back up has really limited us. Reed as a rushing threat really allows our RBs to excel when he's also a threat. In the last two games, Reed really was not a threat unless he scrambled. (Not many teams do have a back up so I realize that's somewhat of a pipe dream)

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TAMUallen said:

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He's going to keep Reed and not add a transfer portal QB.

It'll be a disappointing season and we will be wondering "why didn't he get anybody from the portal?!"

Then we will all be wondering why we extended/raised yet again and what new assistants he will be bringing in

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or when he plays better and is better we will be saying man im glad we stuck with Reed... can go either way..

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Third year isn't going to be some miraculous new development UNLESS without Klein trying to force him/offense to do things that aren't best suited for them then results in a drastic uptick of performance

Not going to matter who is QB if we don't get a great QB coach and fix the o-line.

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rootube said:

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The problems with Marcel are:

1) Indecision/holding the ball too long. He passes up positive yards scrambling because he doesn't take the easy yards. This has led to sacks, weird fumbles or just throwing the ball away when he could have picked 5, 10, 20+ yards running.

2) extremely inaccurate in his check downs. In the Miami game alone we probably could have picked up 7-8 more first downs with simple check down passes. Instead he threw the ball over receivers/RB's heads or behind them stopping their forward momentum.

3) When the pocket/play breaks down and he throws on the run I have zero confidence of a completion. Once he starts to move his mechanics break down so bad a completion is unlikely. When JFF started to get flushed it almost always led to him taking off on a big run or a big completion. With Marcel I have little to no hope when the play goes off schedule.

When he came in for Weigman in the LSU game he excelled as he was decisive and was run focused. He tries to avoid running at all cost. That maybe offensive scheme as he is small framed and they are worried about injury? He is not going to put on weight and because of that and his other deficiencies I don't see the NFL calling him up early. If Elko is loyal to him we are in for 2 more seasons as outlined above unless he improves.

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We had 89 yards rushing and they had 7 sacks. Why can't anyone with eyes see what our problems were. If we had 200 yards rushing and zero sacks we would be singing his praises. We need to focus on fixing what needs to be fixed and not listening to this terrible analysis.

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The rest of the offense and play calling did Reed no favors. In addition to that the OL had a lot of issues with the Miami DL. You can't blame Reed for those issues. But if you look at my post and watch the game and the other games where Reed struggles you have to see his faults as well.

I hope he improves and becomes the QB we need in our offense. He needs to make quicker decisions of when to run, improve his accuracy, and continue to work on his mechanics to improve. He seems like a good kid and a hard worker so I hope that he does.

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You are completely missing the point. I bet the win percentage for a team that rushes for under 100 yards and give up 7 sacks is probably under 5%. So it makes no difference who played QB in that game.

I understand what you are saying. I agree those numbers aren't going to win you games.

I think you are missing my point. If Reed would take off and run more before the pocket completely collapses & get some positive yards instead of taking a sack we won't be in obvious passing situations as much. Those numbers would improve. Miami was also daring us to throw and bringing pressure but Reed couldn't complete simple passes. He had multiple opportunities in the game to check the ball down for an easy first down. But even his check down passes were wildly inaccurate preventing the receiver or RB from picking up positive yards. Yes we couldn't run the ball but those problems circle back to the defensive complete lack of respect for him completing even simple passes.

Both your point and mine are virtually the same, we need to run the ball better to win. That is on the offensive line, play calling & Reeds indecision & inaccuracy.

TAMUallen said:

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He's going to keep Reed and not add a transfer portal QB.

It'll be a disappointing season and we will be wondering "why didn't he get anybody from the portal?!"

Then we will all be wondering why we extended/raised yet again and what new assistants he will be bringing in

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Elko needs to learn his lessons:

You can't get too close to players and elevate them to leaders until they prove they belong. Reed can't throw and York is too slow and small…….doesn't matter how good of dudes they are, in fact it makes it harder to replace them

You can't let potentially losing a coach and players they recruited have an impact your hires. Wiggins would have left if he didn't get the OC job. Let him leave and bring in an experienced playcaller was the right move.

The vibe is definitely Reed and Wiggins are gone after a lost season of terrible offense next year.

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The problems with Marcel are:

1) Indecision/holding the ball too long. He passes up positive yards scrambling because he doesn't take the easy yards. This has led to sacks, weird fumbles or just throwing the ball away when he could have picked 5, 10, 20+ yards running.

2) extremely inaccurate in his check downs. In the Miami game alone we probably could have picked up 7-8 more first downs with simple check down passes. Instead he threw the ball over receivers/RB's heads or behind them stopping their forward momentum.

3) When the pocket/play breaks down and he throws on the run I have zero confidence of a completion. Once he starts to move his mechanics break down so bad a completion is unlikely. When JFF started to get flushed it almost always led to him taking off on a big run or a big completion. With Marcel I have little to no hope when the play goes off schedule.

When he came in for Weigman in the LSU game he excelled as he was decisive and was run focused. He tries to avoid running at all cost. That maybe offensive scheme as he is small framed and they are worried about injury? He is not going to put on weight and because of that and his other deficiencies I don't see the NFL calling him up early. If Elko is loyal to him we are in for 2 more seasons as outlined above unless he improves.

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We had 89 yards rushing and they had 7 sacks. Why can't anyone with eyes see what our problems were. If we had 200 yards rushing and zero sacks we would be singing his praises. We need to focus on fixing what needs to be fixed and not listening to this terrible analysis.

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The rest of the offense and play calling did Reed no favors. In addition to that the OL had a lot of issues with the Miami DL. You can't blame Reed for those issues. But if you look at my post and watch the game and the other games where Reed struggles you have to see his faults as well.

I hope he improves and becomes the QB we need in our offense. He needs to make quicker decisions of when to run, improve his accuracy, and continue to work on his mechanics to improve. He seems like a good kid and a hard worker so I hope that he does.

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You are completely missing the point. I bet the win percentage for a team that rushes for under 100 yards and give up 7 sacks is probably under 5%. So it makes no difference who played QB in that game.

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Yet we were still better in most stat categories and were still in position to tie/win.
Find me a QB that completes the easy/routine throws and we likely win that same game by 10+

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The problems with Marcel are:

1) Indecision/holding the ball too long. He passes up positive yards scrambling because he doesn't take the easy yards. This has led to sacks, weird fumbles or just throwing the ball away when he could have picked 5, 10, 20+ yards running.

2) extremely inaccurate in his check downs. In the Miami game alone we probably could have picked up 7-8 more first downs with simple check down passes. Instead he threw the ball over receivers/RB's heads or behind them stopping their forward momentum.

3) When the pocket/play breaks down and he throws on the run I have zero confidence of a completion. Once he starts to move his mechanics break down so bad a completion is unlikely. When JFF started to get flushed it almost always led to him taking off on a big run or a big completion. With Marcel I have little to no hope when the play goes off schedule.

When he came in for Weigman in the LSU game he excelled as he was decisive and was run focused. He tries to avoid running at all cost. That maybe offensive scheme as he is small framed and they are worried about injury? He is not going to put on weight and because of that and his other deficiencies I don't see the NFL calling him up early. If Elko is loyal to him we are in for 2 more seasons as outlined above unless he improves.

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We had 89 yards rushing and they had 7 sacks. Why can't anyone with eyes see what our problems were. If we had 200 yards rushing and zero sacks we would be singing his praises. We need to focus on fixing what needs to be fixed and not listening to this terrible analysis.

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The rest of the offense and play calling did Reed no favors. In addition to that the OL had a lot of issues with the Miami DL. You can't blame Reed for those issues. But if you look at my post and watch the game and the other games where Reed struggles you have to see his faults as well.

I hope he improves and becomes the QB we need in our offense. He needs to make quicker decisions of when to run, improve his accuracy, and continue to work on his mechanics to improve. He seems like a good kid and a hard worker so I hope that he does.

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You are completely missing the point. I bet the win percentage for a team that rushes for under 100 yards and give up 7 sacks is probably under 5%. So it makes no difference who played QB in that game.

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Half of the sacks were Reed's fault. Ran right into Miami guys when there were open running lanes. Or held onto the ball too long and was indecisive. Not saying the OL played great, but there shouldn't have been more than 3-4 sacks.

Yes the RB's were a problem. Owens is just ok. Moss was our best but too brittle. OL could have done better. The headline though of the running game is: opponents figured out they could stack the box and run zone and force Reed to throw and he can't. They don't even need to blitz. Just let the LB's plug the gaps for runs and on passes the LB's are in zone. Only need to cover the first 8 yards down the field and even those passes aren't accurate

The accuracy, happy feet and lack of decision making problems were there all year for Reed. Nobody talked about it because we were beating bad teams the whole time

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I understand what you are saying. I agree those numbers aren't going to win you games.

I think you are missing my point. If Reed would take off and run more before the pocket completely collapses & get some positive yards instead of taking a sack we won't be in obvious passing situations as much. Those numbers would improve. Miami was also daring us to throw and bringing pressure but Reed couldn't complete simple passes. He had multiple opportunities in the game to check the ball down for an easy first down. But even his check down passes were wildly inaccurate preventing the receiver or RB from picking up positive yards. Yes we couldn't run the ball but those problems circle back to the defensive complete lack of respect for him completing even simple passes.

Both your point and mine are virtually the same, we need to run the ball better to win. That is on the offensive line, play calling & Reeds indecision & inaccuracy.

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Separate problem behind the scenes is Reed's desire to run. Everything he's stated suggests he doesn't want to be a running QB and wants to first be a pocket passer to improve his draft chances. If he has any push back this offseason on running more then it should be an easy decision to move on

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I understand what you are saying. I agree those numbers aren't going to win you games.

I think you are missing my point. If Reed would take off and run more before the pocket completely collapses & get some positive yards instead of taking a sack we won't be in obvious passing situations as much. Those numbers would improve. Miami was also daring us to throw and bringing pressure but Reed couldn't complete simple passes. He had multiple opportunities in the game to check the ball down for an easy first down. But even his check down passes were wildly inaccurate preventing the receiver or RB from picking up positive yards. Yes we couldn't run the ball but those problems circle back to the defensive complete lack of respect for him completing even simple passes.

Both your point and mine are virtually the same, we need to run the ball better to win. That is on the offensive line, play calling & Reeds indecision & inaccuracy.

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Separate problem behind the scenes is Reed's desire to run. Everything he's stated suggests he doesn't want to be a running QB and wants to first be a pocket passer to improve his draft chances. If he has any push back this offseason on running more then it should be an easy decision to move on

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Reed is a rail. Not one person in that building wants him to run "more". Developing his pocket game makes his run game better, we know he can run. The notion that Reed is unwilling to run because he is focused on his draft chances is absurd. The notion that he gets to tell the coaches what he will and won't do is absurd.

If Reed refuses to do what Elko is coaching him to do, he will sit the bench. See Miles O'Neill...

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Is Starkel still playing?

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You didn't get the memo? He's ass my dude. Need go after Tate Martell instead.

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I was hoping Tate was going to be our next JFF. LOL

In the three biggest games of his career, Reed has 7 turnovers and 0 touchdowns. Knowing that stat, I don't see how you don't at least try to upgrade.

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I don't think any of those guys is an upward move.

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We heard the same thing last season, meanwhile a no name guy named Fernando Mendoza would transfer to Indiana & go on to win the Heisman & probably the national championship & probably be the #1 overall pick in the 2026 draft.

If you think Elko is not trying to go after a QB in the portal I have some ocean front property in Arizona for you. No spot on any roster is EVER guaranteed year in and out. It's not a bad thing to know that Reed is currently the guy, but that doesn't mean Elko isn't scouting and attempting to bring in other options.

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In the three biggest games of his career, Reed has 7 turnovers and 0 touchdowns. Knowing that stat, I don't see how you don't at least try to upgrade.

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Yall keep saying this, but Notre Dame was a much bigger game with much more on the line than Texas was where we knew we were in the playoff no matter what. Leaving out the Notre Dame game in your little temper tantrum analysis is ridiculous.

Beating LSU in death valley, no matter how much you think they sucked, was also a huge game. Losing that game would have forced us to have to beat Texas to get in. And we hadn't won there in ages. We got a huge monkey off our back in that game, largely thanks to Reed.

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I place blame on the coaches for the way the Miami game went. I think we went in thinking we'd lean on them like we had opponents all year. When the running game struggled, we continued to just hope things would turn (maybe like they did in the Mizzou game). Never happened. IMO, we should have scrapped our style and gone up tempo the entire 2nd half... even our final drive, aided by tempo and penalties to get down the field. We then put Reed in a situation where we are taking time, and he has to sit in the pocket in limited space. Makes no sense. Like said above, call a sweep and have the next play ready to go if you don't score.

Reed has been mistake-prone. The ND script would be a lot different if they pick off one of his passes on the final possession, but they didn't. I didn't find the last few games that shocking. He's young - there is still time to get better. All up to him.

Football continues to be a hard game. You don't just snap your fingers and get better overnight. The portal and fan expectations are not set in reality... when there are so many fan bases throwing $ around.

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We needed the running game to work but couldnt vs Miami. I thought we could have been much more creative with the run game. We were too predictable and they didn't have to do anything to hard to stop it.

Season finale against our biggest rival with a trip to Atlanta on the line trumps an early season non-conference game.

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Season finale against our biggest rival with a trip to Atlanta on the line trumps an early season non-conference game.

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They bother matter and both were big games. You left one out to make your point seem more radical.

Fine, in his four biggest games he has 8 turnovers and 2 touchdowns. It's not that much better

ElephantRider said:

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Fine, in his four biggest games he has 8 turnovers and 2 touchdowns. It's not that much better

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Winner

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In the three biggest games of his career, Reed has 7 turnovers and 0 touchdowns. Knowing that stat, I don't see how you don't at least try to upgrade.

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Yall keep saying this, but Notre Dame was a much bigger game with much more on the line than Texas was where we knew we were in the playoff no matter what. Leaving out the Notre Dame game in your little temper tantrum analysis is ridiculous.

Beating LSU in death valley, no matter how much you think they sucked, was also a huge game. Losing that game would have forced us to have to beat Texas to get in. And we hadn't won there in ages. We got a huge monkey off our back in that game, largely thanks to Reed.

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You are right. Two major talking points about how the aggies are permanent losers are no more. This was the only good thing that happened this year and im sure plenty of ags think we should get a trophy for it. Sad that the bar for success has been so low this century

Now the question is if Reed is the player to get us beyond that low bar. It's a good question that hopefully the staff is considering. Too many ags have too much loyalty and sentiment. It's time to grow some balls and be ruthless when necessary. This is a business. The athletes are professionals. The athletes have zero loyalty and don't care about a&m. Elko is a coach worth believing in and hopefully he gets it all right

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The problems with Marcel are:

1) Indecision/holding the ball too long. He passes up positive yards scrambling because he doesn't take the easy yards. This has led to sacks, weird fumbles or just throwing the ball away when he could have picked 5, 10, 20+ yards running.

2) extremely inaccurate in his check downs. In the Miami game alone we probably could have picked up 7-8 more first downs with simple check down passes. Instead he threw the ball over receivers/RB's heads or behind them stopping their forward momentum.

3) When the pocket/play breaks down and he throws on the run I have zero confidence of a completion. Once he starts to move his mechanics break down so bad a completion is unlikely. When JFF started to get flushed it almost always led to him taking off on a big run or a big completion. With Marcel I have little to no hope when the play goes off schedule.

When he came in for Weigman in the LSU game he excelled as he was decisive and was run focused. He tries to avoid running at all cost. That maybe offensive scheme as he is small framed and they are worried about injury? He is not going to put on weight and because of that and his other deficiencies I don't see the NFL calling him up early. If Elko is loyal to him we are in for 2 more seasons as outlined above unless he improves.

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We had 89 yards rushing and they had 7 sacks. Why can't anyone with eyes see what our problems were. If we had 200 yards rushing and zero sacks we would be singing his praises. We need to focus on fixing what needs to be fixed and not listening to this terrible analysis.

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The rest of the offense and play calling did Reed no favors. In addition to that the OL had a lot of issues with the Miami DL. You can't blame Reed for those issues. But if you look at my post and watch the game and the other games where Reed struggles you have to see his faults as well.

I hope he improves and becomes the QB we need in our offense. He needs to make quicker decisions of when to run, improve his accuracy, and continue to work on his mechanics to improve. He seems like a good kid and a hard worker so I hope that he does.

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You are completely missing the point. I bet the win percentage for a team that rushes for under 100 yards and give up 7 sacks is probably under 5%. So it makes no difference who played QB in that game.

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Half of the sacks were Reed's fault. Ran right into Miami guys when there were open running lanes. Or held onto the ball too long and was indecisive. Not saying the OL played great, but there shouldn't have been more than 3-4 sacks.

Yes the RB's were a problem. Owens is just ok. Moss was our best but too brittle. OL could have done better. The headline though of the running game is: opponents figured out they could stack the box and run zone and force Reed to throw and he can't. They don't even need to blitz. Just let the LB's plug the gaps for runs and on passes the LB's are in zone. Only need to cover the first 8 yards down the field and even those passes aren't accurate

The accuracy, happy feet and lack of decision making problems were there all year for Reed. Nobody talked about it because we were beating bad teams the whole time

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Oh for Peet's sake. It's not happy feet and it's not a running back problem. We were absolutely whipped on the LOS against Miami. We were dominated. Elko came out and said it in plain words in the post game.

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Fine, in his four biggest games he has 8 turnovers and 2 touchdowns. It's not that much better

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What was your prediction for the season?

Reed's QBR was ranked #7 in the SEC the past 2 seasons. Mediocre but if you replace him, are you positive the next one will be better? For every Pavia, Chambliss, Stockton, and Green, you have a Shapen, Arnold, Lagway, and Sellers. People would assume Nussmeier and Klubnik were sure things going into this season, they weren't.