Do they determine the top 4 seeds that will get the bye before or after the conference championship games?

Can you be a top 4 seed going into the conference championship and fall out of the top 4 if you lose that game?

DRE06 said:

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Do they determine the top 4 seeds that will get the bye before or after the conference championship games?

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after

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Can you be a top 4 seed going into the conference championship and fall out of the top 4 if you lose that game?

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yes, but if you are undefeated going in, you likely don't fall out

So going into conference championships
1 - Ohio State
2 - Indiana
3 - A&M
4 - Georgia
5 - Texas Tech

You are telling me that if A&M loses in the SEC Championship and Texas Tech wins the Big XII, that A&M won't fall behind Georgia and Texas Tech

That seems doubtful.

DRE06 said:

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So going into conference championships
1 - Ohio State
2 - Indiana
3 - A&M
4 - Georgia
5 - Texas Tech

You are telling me that if A&M loses in the SEC Championship and Texas Tech wins the Big XII, that A&M won't fall behind Georgia and Texas Tech

That seems doubtful.

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Unless UGA is the team we lose to, yes, that is what I am telling you.

Even then, we drop to 4.

There is no way they don't take conference championship results into play. They may not let a team fall out of the playoffs, but let's say A&M beats Texas and Alabama, and IU beats Ohio State.

NO WAY Ohio State could keep the number 1 seed. They'd have to fall at least to 3, and if IU were to obliterate them, maybe to 4.

Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

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There is no way they don't take conference championship results into play. They may not let a team fall out of the playoffs, but let's say A&M beats Texas and Alabama, and IU beats Ohio State.

NO WAY Ohio State could keep the number 1 seed. They'd have to fall at least to 3, and if IU were to obliterate them, maybe to 4.

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I'm talking about a top 4 seed going into conference championship weekend falling out of the top 4 seed due to a loss and being jumped by someone that didn't have to play.

In this case, looking at Georgia who would be home watching an A&M-Alabama SEC championship.

Texas Tech wins the Big 12, they move into a top 4 seed and get a bye.

I see a scenario where we fall behind Georgia and Texas Tech and lose the bye with a loss in the SEC championship game, while Georgia just sits home and gets rest.

SEC and B1G champs are likely 1 and 2 seeds. They have to keep making those games matter if you win.

If A&M loses to Texas they won't be in the championship game and will be minimum top 8 seed and have a home CFP game.

Losers of SEC championship:
12-1 A&M is still 3 or 4 seed.
11-2 UGA is iffy to stay in top 4 over 12-1 TT
10-3 Alabama is not in top 4 but likely stays in CFP as last possible (they should be OUT like they did to UGA a couple of years ago when there were only 4 teams)

If both IU and OSU make it to B1G championship at 12-0 they are locks for top 4 seeds.

We are IN no matter what but IF we lose to Texas I expect the narrative of our schedule to be loud and for us to drop - just not out of the top 8 (or 6 even)

I think Georgia 11-1 (not in SECCG) would stay ahead of Alabama if Alabama loses SECCG (obvious)

If Alabama beats A&M in SECCG:
12-1 A&M, 11-2 Alabama (champ), 11-1 UGA
AND TT SMOKES BYU again
I could see TT moving to 2 or 3, Alabama 4, A&M/UGA 5/6

DRE06 said:

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So going into conference championships
1 - Ohio State
2 - Indiana
3 - A&M
4 - Georgia
5 - Texas Tech

You are telling me that if A&M loses in the SEC Championship and Texas Tech wins the Big XII, that A&M won't fall behind Georgia and Texas Tech

That seems doubtful.

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Remember one of Indiana and OSU has to lose too

ABATTBQ11 said:

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DRE06 said:

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So going into conference championships
1 - Ohio State
2 - Indiana
3 - A&M
4 - Georgia
5 - Texas Tech

You are telling me that if A&M loses in the SEC Championship and Texas Tech wins the Big XII, that A&M won't fall behind Georgia and Texas Tech

That seems doubtful.

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Remember one of Indiana and OSU has to lose too

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I don't see IU dropping 3 spots or OSU dropping 4 spots in a 1v2 matchup.

But I could definitely see A&M dropping 2 spots in a 3v10 (A&M vs. Alabama)

If we beat tu and lose a close game in the SECCG, we will be ranked ahead of Tech even if they win the Big 12.

(Unless there's a rule that conference champions get automatic 1-4 spots?)

I also think if we beat Texas and Alabama, we ought to be #1, but would probably only leapfrog the loser of IU/Ohio State, assuming those two play in that game.

But there are so many things that can happen between this weekend and the conference championships, just about the only thing I can say for certain is that the four teams ranked 1-4 will not be ranked that way in that order come playoff time.

No way ALL the games go as expected.

Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

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There is no way they don't take conference championship results into play. They may not let a team fall out of the playoffs, but let's say A&M beats Texas and Alabama, and IU beats Ohio State.

NO WAY Ohio State could keep the number 1 seed. They'd have to fall at least to 3, and if IU were to obliterate them, maybe to 4.

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Ohio state won't fall below 2 IMO, regardless of B10 champ results

tandy miller said:

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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

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There is no way they don't take conference championship results into play. They may not let a team fall out of the playoffs, but let's say A&M beats Texas and Alabama, and IU beats Ohio State.

NO WAY Ohio State could keep the number 1 seed. They'd have to fall at least to 3, and if IU were to obliterate them, maybe to 4.

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Ohio state won't fall below 2 IMO, regardless of B10 champ results

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Prepare to be wrong!

You must then think that we are going to lose a game. If Ohio State loses to IU, then obviously IU would pass them. If we beat Texas and Alabama, you don't think an undefeated SEC team with road wins over ND and Texas and an SEC championship would pass a 1 loss Ohio State?

I know the committee loves Ohio State right now, but even they couldn't justify that.

In that case, it would either be TAMU, IU, Ohio State, or IU, TAMU, Ohio State. Not even a doubt.

Ags need to be rooting for Bama against Auburn this weekend.

Do not want to have to potentially play UGA and Kirby Smart twice.

CC00 said:

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I think Georgia 11-1 (not in SECCG) would stay ahead of Alabama if Alabama loses SECCG (obvious)

If Alabama beats A&M in SECCG:
12-1 A&M, 11-2 Alabama (champ), 11-1 UGA
AND TT SMOKES BYU again
I could see TT moving to 2 or 3, Alabama 4, A&M/UGA 5/6

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I don't think bama would jump all the way up top 4 from 10 with 2 losses passing over a bunch of 1 loss teams

I think if Bama were to win the seccg they'd move to to being the highest ranked 2 loss team at number 7 and get a home game

I Dont See any scenario where tech moves up to number2

Indiana and A&M would probably still be ahead of them if they lost their seccg's as undefeated teams going in

I could see tech at 4 in that scenario

Last year the committee did not punish teams for losing in the seccg. They mostly just dropped one spot

Remember; this year the top 4 spots are not required to go to conference champions, so the rankings will be based upon resume not just winning a conference

I think Ohio state would stay at 2. Could be wrong but my opinion. Don't think we will see that scenario, as I think Ohio at will handle iu in the B10 Champ

DRE06 said:

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So going into conference championships
1 - Ohio State
2 - Indiana
3 - A&M
4 - Georgia
5 - Texas Tech

You are telling me that if A&M loses in the SEC Championship and Texas Tech wins the Big XII, that A&M won't fall behind Georgia and Texas Tech

That seems doubtful.

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I get what you're saying but don't you just rank the 1 loss teams at that point. I'd argue a 1 loss SEC/B10 championship loser would probably still be above Tech who lost to ASU assuming they win out.