Bryce Foster and it isn't close unfortunately

I'm seeing some Reggie McNeal mentions in this thread. I thought folks told me he did good when he was here. Wasn't no All American, but still did good enough.

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I looked up a few articles and was brought back to the McElroy family. He was one of 12 brothers. The oldest brother, Lee Jr., started playing football in 1967 at UCLA. Leeland wasn't even born until 1974.

There was a 25 year age gap between the oldest and youngest kid in that family.

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You're not lying. Check out how old his dad was in this interview during the 1995 LSU game.

Baylor Cupp is 100% the answer.

The #1 TE in his class. He was hyped every offseason only to never see the field.

The absolute #1 though goes way back - long before any of us were even born.

Kenneth Hall

Still holds the high school rushing record for career and a season and held the national record until Derrick Henry broke it 15 or whatever years ago. Even Bear said he was the single biggest mistake of his coaching career.

Damn we have had a massive amount of talent squandered here and just about as much never pan out.

another highly rated QB- Lex James.
Houston Sam Houston grad

Tate Martell

I know i shouldn't have opened this thread. Soda pressing it is.

Dinesh Patel

Ken Hall. However he actually never played a down @ A&M

Holy crap, some Forrest Gump level football IQ is showing in this thread. People mentioning players like Reggie, Martellus, and Justin Warren? All 3 had good Aggie careers despite the coaching and surrounding talent they were stuck with.

Suggesting Leeland is just another level of re-tarded.

AGSFight11 said:

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Smoke Bouie

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But he smoked plenty!

NoahAg said:

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Holy crap, some Forrest Gump level football IQ is showing in this thread. People mentioning players like Reggie, Martellus, and Justin Warren? All 3 had good Aggie careers despite the coaching and surrounding talent they were stuck with.

Suggesting Leeland is just another level of re-tarded.

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You do understand what "overhyped" means, correct?

RSJ was another that was a 5* ranked player that did very little while at A&M.

He did get flagged for targeting when he blocked a DB though.

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Walter Nolan

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Yeah, got drafted in round 1. What a bust.

2022 entire class..number 1 ranking and best class ever was a total failure. That is what has made me cautious about our current number 2 class.

AggieNattie said:

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I'm seeing some Reggie McNeal mentions in this thread. I thought folks told me he did good when he was here. Wasn't no All American, but still did good enough.

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Reggie's 2004 season was the 3rd best by an aggie QB in the 21st century

after JF's 2012 and 2013 seasons

Ghost of Bisbee said:

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Bryce Foster and it isn't close unfortunately

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this one hurt bad as it directly sunk the 2022 & 2023 o-lines

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Randy Simmons

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Being fair to Randy he did have bad knees.

When you think about it, most of our highly rated players have been overhyped. Our blue chip recruits who played really well here have been the exception for our program, not the rule.

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Ken Hall. However he actually never played a down @ A&M

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He was a half back, but Bear Bryant thought he should be a fullback. To go from what made him great to what he wasn't used to is not a fair assessment.

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another highly rated QB- Lex James.
Houston Sam Houston grad

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I remember him being labeled stumble, fumble and fall. Gene Stallings loved him. He was known to great in practice then fall apart in games.

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Ghost of Bisbee said:

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Bryce Foster and it isn't close unfortunately

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this one hurt bad as it directly sunk the 2022 & 2023 o-lines

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Probably the worst center I've ever seen play the position at A&M

Donell Harris. Was supposed to be the cherry on top of a great recruiting class when he announced on NSD. Wound up contributing a total of 3 tackles in 2 seasons

And can't forget Ermagerd Termas Jernson. As much as we'd like to.

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nonregdaduck75 said:

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another highly rated QB- Lex James.
Houston Sam Houston grad

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I remember him being labeled stumble, fumble and fall. Gene Stallings loved him. He was known to great in practice then fall apart in games.

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Sexy Lexy had a propensity to handoff to the other team.

dixichkn said:

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Donell Harris. Was supposed to be the cherry on top of a great recruiting class when he announced on NSD. Wound up contributing a total of 3 tackles in 2 seasons

And can't forget Ermagerd Termas Jernson. As much as we'd like to.

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That whole schizophrenia thing is a mfer. To me it's the best representation aggie football.

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2022 entire class..number 1 ranking and best class ever was a total failure. That is what has made me cautious about our current number 2 class.

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For what it's worth, the two are in no way related whatsoever.

Lex James

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Ken Hall. However he actually never played a down @ A&M

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That's not hype. His rushing records (single season and career) have stood for 70 years. He was just a headcase but probably the best football player the state has ever produced. https://vault.si.com/vault/1982/09/27/whatever-happened-to-the-sugar-land-express

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Ken Hall, you see, is the best high school football player ever. Period. Nobody else is even close. Billy Sims, Doak Walker, Tony Dorsett, Herschel Walker, Earl Campbell...all you guys sit down and shut up.

He quit midway through his sophomore year, then begged and cried his way back onto the team for his junior season, but then quit again. He never started a game for the Aggies and didn't letter.

He should have been an All-America for me. With him, we'd have won the National Championship in 1957. Without him, we lost it."

A classmate of Hall's was Halfback John David Crow, who would win the Heisman trophy in 1957. "Lord knows I love Coach Bryant to death," Crow says, "but I'll say this, if Kenneth Hall had gone to play under someone like Bud Wilkinson at Oklahoma, the world would never have heard much about John David Crow."

"Bryant says I'm his biggest mistake. There's honor in that."

Bryant sent Hall a letter saying how wrong he had been and Hall wrote back saying, "Don't worry, it's O.K."


What makes Hall's records even more remarkable is the fact that he generally played little or not at all in the second half of a game, humiliation not usually being a yardstick of prep sportsmanship. Against Houston Lutheran in 1953, Hall set the national single-game rushing record of 520 yards on only 11 carries, a 47.3 yard average. He played only a few minutes in the second half.

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Ken Hall is case in point as to why I will never understand why Aggies celebrate Bear Bryant's tenure at A&M.

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warrington74 said:

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Walter Nolan

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Yeah, got drafted in round 1. What a bust.

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But what did he do here?

Not a whole lot numbers wise. NFL puts a whole lot of stock in measurables over on field production. Which is why guys like Nolan, Martellus Bennet, RSJ, etc. made the rosters. It wasn't because they were studs on the field in college, because none of them lived up to the 5* or 4* billing that they had coming out of high school.

Hence "overhyped".

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Craigy said:

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Ken Hall. However he actually never played a down @ A&M

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That's not hype. His rushing records (single season and career) have stood for 70 years. He was just a headcase but probably the best football player the state has ever produced. https://vault.si.com/vault/1982/09/27/whatever-happened-to-the-sugar-land-express

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Ken Hall, you see, is the best high school football player ever. Period. Nobody else is even close. Billy Sims, Doak Walker, Tony Dorsett, Herschel Walker, Earl Campbell...all you guys sit down and shut up.

He quit midway through his sophomore year, then begged and cried his way back onto the team for his junior season, but then quit again. He never started a game for the Aggies and didn't letter.

He should have been an All-America for me. With him, we'd have won the National Championship in 1957. Without him, we lost it."

A classmate of Hall's was Halfback John David Crow, who would win the Heisman trophy in 1957. "Lord knows I love Coach Bryant to death," Crow says, "but I'll say this, if Kenneth Hall had gone to play under someone like Bud Wilkinson at Oklahoma, the world would never have heard much about John David Crow."

"Bryant says I'm his biggest mistake. There's honor in that."

Bryant sent Hall a letter saying how wrong he had been and Hall wrote back saying, "Don't worry, it's O.K."


What makes Hall's records even more remarkable is the fact that he generally played little or not at all in the second half of a game, humiliation not usually being a yardstick of prep sportsmanship. Against Houston Lutheran in 1953, Hall set the national single-game rushing record of 520 yards on only 11 carries, a 47.3 yard average. He played only a few minutes in the second half.

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Ken Hall is case in point as to why I will never understand why Aggies celebrate Bear Bryant's tenure at A&M.

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This is just a weird mentality. Every coach has a player or two or three or more that they didn't develop, handled wrong, etc. Every single one. It's part of coaching - nobody bats 1.000.

To try to say that Bryant's tenure here is not worthy of celebration because he mishandled one player is just dumb. From '48-'53 we were 20-35 as a team. Even Norton, who was a pretty successful coach and won the only real NC we have finished his career with back to back losing seasons.

Bear came in and took us from 6 losing seasons out of 7 (his first year was a losing season but he had about 13 players on the squad left after the Junction trip) to three straight winning seasons and a solid bowl win, first win and appearance in 7 years.

I remember someone was suggesting that Trevor Knight would be the next Johnny Manziel. This is enough to have the poor guy locked up.

Rod Davis. First recruit I followed through the whole process. Can't miss high 4* DT. Beat the sips head to head when they were rolling.

SOB's arms somehow shrank and he never saw the field before transferring to Nowhere U.

Daylon Mack was first to come to mind for me, SO MUCH hype, nothing burger career.

Simmons is probably the right answer but here's a blast from the past …. John Mazur.

We'd probably be better off talking about the guys that met and exceeded expectations… Tannehill, Richardson, Anias Smith, Dante Hall, Ray Childress, etc