Patience. Texas defense rankings under Pete Kwiatkowski:

2021: 100
2022: 54
2023: 35
2024: 3

Patience.

Nelson Wilbury said:

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The unfortunate truth in nearly all assistant coaching changes is that we probably won't know if anyone is officially fired. Much like corporate executives, there are creative ways to achieve the desired outcome without the negative implications on the assistant's career. We'll hear little/nothing until spring, when perhaps we'll hear that Bateman has accepted a HC role at a FBS or smaller school, or duties will be "expanded" to leverage his expertise in player development and scouting, etc.

Ultimately head coaches want to expand their lineage by having their assistants be successful, sooner or later. Meaning that you want to be seen as a "factory" that can produce winning coaches. How many assistants did Nick Saban "fire"? Throwing your assistants under the bus is a recipe for disaster.

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Saban didn't fire but 1 coach, and he claimed fault for that as he put him in a spot he wasn't qualified to coach.

Smart people know what a firing is as opposed to a "reassignment" or taking a new role somewhere else.

Just man up, and move on.

Mr. Fingerbottom said:

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[Bye. -Staff]

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I'm surprised this sock lasted as long as it did.

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vander54 said:

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That sounds like a you problem

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Nope. Simply an observation that the same people say the same thing every time we go through this and just can't seem to understand that sometimes criticism of coaches is warranted and that, in fact, the coach is not always right.

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Say it again

Based upon both his highly critical trashing of the defense in his USC post-game presser and the team's disturbing collapse during the latter part of the season, Elko certainly realizes that some things absolutely have to change. His sizable goodwill with fans was squandered after an excellent start to the season, and he is now being viewed with many critical eyes.

Bateman appears to be a millstone and, unfortunately, if Elko is willing to embrace it and jump off the pier, we can't stop him.

I would think Coach Elko is trying to analyze ALL of the D, including the asst. coaches,
and the schemes. Has to take a look at the motivation of certain players, along with how
did certain players perform based on the D play calls.

One stop at the end vs. Auburn and one vs S.Cal and we finish 10-3. So close but so far!

Y'all know how I feel about this. Go sign the petition.

https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3519986

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Patience. Texas defense rankings under Pete Kwiatkowski:

2021: 100
2022: 54
2023: 35
2024: 3

Patience.

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Apples and oranges. Sark came in after the immensely entertaining Tom Herman (just fired by FAU btw) whose roster was loaded with 4 star DBs and very little talent along the LOS. Elko was plug and play and a guy who had recruited many on the current roster who were familiar with his scheme. I hate the "need to give Elko time to get his guys". That's Fran level excuse making.

cs69ag said:

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I would think Coach Elko is trying to analyze ALL of the D, including the asst. coaches,
and the schemes. Has to take a look at the motivation of certain players, along with how
did certain players perform based on the D play calls.

One stop at the end vs. Auburn and one vs S.Cal and we finish 10-3. So close but so far!

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Or, we lose the three games Elko admitted we were "lucky" to win (Florida, Mizzou, and LSU) and we aren't bowl eligible. "If wishes and dreams were candies and nuts..."

General Jack D. Ripper said:

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vander54 said:

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Because Mike Elko is our HC and he knows the issues we faced.

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I trust Fran
I trust Sherman
I trust Summy
I trust Jimbo

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What's your plan then? Is it to fire coaches every year?

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No, we wait two more years for two more 8-4 seasons and then we fire him.

Probably waiting on Notre Dame to finish up.

Timberwolf said:

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He needs to address the issues and if that means canning a coordinator (or other defensive assistants) that cost you numerous embarrassing losses, then you do it because that's your job- to win. Time is of the essence in this game. You hesitate, you lose .

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Maybe he's not firing Bateman because Elko was actually the one creating and installing the game plan each week and coaching the D.

MyComputerCareer said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Patience. Texas defense rankings under Pete Kwiatkowski:

2021: 100
2022: 54
2023: 35
2024: 3

Patience.

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Apples and oranges. Sark came in after the immensely entertaining Tom Herman (just fired by FAU btw) whose roster was loaded with 4 star DBs and very little talent along the LOS. Elko was plug and play and a guy who had recruited many on the current roster who were familiar with his scheme. I hate the "need to give Elko time to get his guys". That's Fran level excuse making.

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This is such a garbage take and simply setting a guy up for failure.

Imagine really trying to argue that Elko had a plug and play roster easier to navigate a sec schedule than sark did in a big 12 schedule. Elko unequivocally had a more successful first year, and did a better job overall.

Maybe Elko takes over the Defense and then brings his mentor Clawson in on the offensive side of the ball while he focuses on Def.

Either way something has to change.

Can someone explain to me why elko doesn't make the defensive calls? If sark can call every offensive play, elko should be able to all the defense.

lol, okay bruh. Feel free to go back and read/watch from Nov '23 on or keep on goal tending. Back then we were talking about all the close losses, culture issues, special team collapses, and better S&C with Moffitt, Elkos familiarity with current roster (or even the 50 players that hugged him in first team meeting). Texags wrote an article in Jan about running before walking in '24. Nothing suggested a total rebuild.

And I don't like the Sark comparisons either which is why I referred to it as apples and oranges.

My understanding is he doesn't call the D because he doesn't want to. He wants his coordinators to manage their units.
Which I totally get because it's what a lot of us wanted for Jimbo to do with the offense. Be the head coach, get a top notch O coordinator and let him run the offense.
And there's the rub. To me the making of a successful coach rides on the staff he builds. Jimbo's staff was poor and the results were poor. Objectively its really too early to tell for Elko although sure not encouraging to say the least.

I thought Saban had turnover in coaches just about every year. He worked his coaches hard and expected a lot out of them some coaches didn't particularly enjoy working for him, but they did their time knowing being re-credentialed by Saban was worth a ton of money when they left. Other coaches didn't meet Saban's high standards and were either "reassigned" or encouraged to find employment with other teams.

But Saban had a lot more clout and could attract some damn good assistant coaches. Maybe someday Elko will be able to do that, but he doesn't have that same clout now.

Any HC that cans a coordinator after 1yr would not be the right HC in my opinion


Now years 2-4, sure

vander54 said:

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Because Mike Elko is our HC and he knows the issues we faced.

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The guy who hired these bum coordinators, and clearly overestimates his own skills.

QB1 said:

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Any HC that cans a coordinator after 1yr would not be the right HC in my opinion
Now years 2-4, sure

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Yeah, we need to suck for 2 years first. Good call. Same with the QB.

beerad12man said:

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MyComputerCareer said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Patience. Texas defense rankings under Pete Kwiatkowski:

2021: 100
2022: 54
2023: 35
2024: 3

Patience.

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Apples and oranges. Sark came in after the immensely entertaining Tom Herman (just fired by FAU btw) whose roster was loaded with 4 star DBs and very little talent along the LOS. Elko was plug and play and a guy who had recruited many on the current roster who were familiar with his scheme. I hate the "need to give Elko time to get his guys". That's Fran level excuse making.

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This is such a garbage take and simply setting a guy up for failure.

Imagine really trying to argue that Elko had a plug and play roster easier to navigate a sec schedule than sark did in a big 12 schedule. Elko unequivocally had a more successful first year, and did a better job overall.

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Lol. Are you really going to sit here and say Elko did a good job? That's just pathetic. Elko had a loaded DL, plenty of LBs, and couldn't stop the run. I can get why Pass-D is bad, because it always is for us. And on offense we're a dumpster fire as usual. Barely had 300 yards of offense before the final drive vs USC, and we lost our last 4 games. Elko, his staff, and his QBs had maybe 2.5 good games all year and that was Florida, Missouri, and 2nd half of LSU.

vander54 said:

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Nelson Wilbury said:

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It's unrealistic to get full transparency from a head football coach. But it would be interesting to hear an explanation of the issues. Defense was clearly less successful from South Carolina forward.

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He said he wasn't happy since Missouri and our secondary didn't know how to run zone coverage. Was not a happy camper during the post hame press conference.

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So Elki doesn't know how to fix it? Our defense was worse at the end of the season.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Patience. Texas defense rankings under Pete Kwiatkowski:

2021: 100
2022: 54
2023: 35
2024: 3

Patience.

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But we had two 1st round NFL talent guys on the DL and the DL was a major disappointment. How? Why? Couldn't stop the run and underwhelming sack totals.

Elko only has so many uno cards to play and then the powers that be start looking right at him. Can't play those cards too early.

General Jack D. Ripper said:

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vander54 said:

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Because Mike Elko is our HC and he knows the issues we faced.

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I trust Fran
I trust Sherman
I trust Summy
I trust Jimbo

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What's your plan then? Is it to fire coaches every year?

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Yes, I would fire one coach a year. A good organization replaces the bottom 10 percent of their organization every year. Ten coaches…one has to go.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Patience. Texas defense rankings under Pete Kwiatkowski:

2021: 100
2022: 54
2023: 35
2024: 3

Patience.

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Texas wasn't recruiting 8th (last year) and 5th (this year) in their own conference (like us).

So it was all just empty words from Elmo in the presser.

Starting to seem like he is, in fact, a fast talking politician that's not running a real program.

texag101 said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Patience. Texas defense rankings under Pete Kwiatkowski:

2021: 100
2022: 54
2023: 35
2024: 3

Patience.

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Texas wasn't recruiting 8th (last year) and 5th (this year) in their own conference (like us).

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But if you rank tu classses vs the SEC in 2020, '21 ad '22 they probably weren't 1 or 2 either (not sure, haven't looked it up) and they played an SEC (albeit weaker SEC) schedule this year and ended up with the #3 defense in the country.

texag101 said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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Patience. Texas defense rankings under Pete Kwiatkowski:

2021: 100
2022: 54
2023: 35
2024: 3

Patience.

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Texas wasn't recruiting 8th (last year) and 5th (this year) in their own conference (like us).

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This is a stupid, nonsensical comparison. In Sarkisian's transition year and his first full class, the recruiting was absolutely on par with ours in the same comparison.

Other major programs will be looking for DCs as well. Oklahoma, FSU, and maybe Clemson to name a few. I would rather get our 1st choice if we are going to make a move. Make it happen Coach.

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vander54 said:

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Because Mike Elko is our HC and he knows the issues we faced.

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I trust Fran
I trust Sherman
I trust Summy
I trust Jimbo

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Could find all of this with all of these coaches on this forum over and over again.

Instead of giving a coach salary increases for doing good, how about we start decreasing salaries when they under perform?

Would absolutely love to see where I said that he did a good job. Would love to see it? Please point it out?

No, I don't think he did anywhere near as badly as many on this board. I will absolutely say that. But not necessarily a "good" job.

Once again, this was a 7-5 or 8-4 type team based on literally everything possible you could read outside of the TexAgs echo chamber saying we might be 9-3. We went 8-5. Just meh. Average. About what everyone around the country expected. It's Year one. Moving on and judging more harshly in year 2. Nothing more, nothing less.