Elite OCs never stay around anyway. Klein will build around his personnel. But I would think there are other personnel who could run his offense better than Connor who was built for a different kind of system.AggieDruggist89 said:
Why would an Elite OC come work for Elko?
So you're saying we have a chance against the sips...classof92 said:
I never understood the hire. He was an elite OC last year -----------------against Big 12 defenses. So I would be worried. If the offense struggles tomorrow against a weak team, then be even more concerned. Need to see drastic improvement. I know it's early in Elko's tenure but speed is needed on the outside.
classof92 said:
I never understood the hire. He was an elite OC last year -----------------against Big 12 defenses. So I would be worried. If the offense struggles tomorrow against a weak team, then be even more concerned. Need to see drastic improvement. I know it's early in Elko's tenure but speed is needed on the outside.
Klein and Moffit were both high profile guys that I believe were our first choice. Those are probably the only "solid" hires, though a number of the Duke guys following Elko seemed decent considering what they did there. All of the Florida guys on defense are suspicious, though.4 said:
Elko got what he could. None of his hires seemed very solid, despite what TA told everyone.
I'm guessing his plan didn't involve overthrowing open receivers.NoahAg said:
Bad hire. Clearly did not have a good plan for Notre Dame.
Emilio Fantastico said:
I did not get to watch the game since I was on vacation but were the offensive struggles due to the Oline not getting it done, unimaginative play calling, or just simply Weigman playing like crap?
Writing off the OC after one game against a tough defense where the QB played poorly seems a bit premature.
Geriatric Punk said:I'm guessing his plan didn't involve overthrowing open receivers.NoahAg said:
Bad hire. Clearly did not have a good plan for Notre Dame.
I remember it being said Klein was offered the ND OC job the year before and turned it down? That correct?Bill Superman said:
Revisionist history doesn't change the fact that Klein is/was highly regarded as a major up and comer OC. Also 1 game doesn't change that. 1 season might though, so let it play out before you try to pretend it was a bad hire.
I'd have a hard time saying anything too bad about the defense right now.Ugly said:Klein and Moffit were both high profile guys that I believe were our first choice. Those are probably the only "solid" hires, though a number of the Duke guys following Elko seemed decent considering what they did there. All of the Florida guys on defense are suspicious, though.4 said:
Elko got what he could. None of his hires seemed very solid, despite what TA told everyone.
ND and Penn St both got turned down in favor of our cursed program.Gyles Marrett said:I remember it being said Klein was offered the ND OC job the year before and turned it down? That correct?Bill Superman said:
Revisionist history doesn't change the fact that Klein is/was highly regarded as a major up and comer OC. Also 1 game doesn't change that. 1 season might though, so let it play out before you try to pretend it was a bad hire.
History suggests that this is rarely the case. There are relatively few upsets in this game. The lower ranked team has won four times since 1980 or so.classof92 said:
Rivalry game. It could go any direction, I don't care how bad the teams are.
JDCAG (NOT Colin) said:classof92 said:
I never understood the hire. He was an elite OC last year -----------------against Big 12 defenses. So I would be worried. If the offense struggles tomorrow against a weak team, then be even more concerned. Need to see drastic improvement. I know it's early in Elko's tenure but speed is needed on the outside.
Everyone thinks Sark is a top shelf offensive mind - here is a comparison:
Passing per game:
KSU: 241
tu: 289
Rushing per game:
KSU: 204
tu: 188
Tds per game:
KSU: 4.8
tu: 3.9
so tu had about 30 yards per game more, but KSU put up more touchdowns, against those same big xii defenses.
I have a feeling you're not calling for tu's offense to suddenly flounder.
Edit to add: Yes, if the offense struggles to do anything tomorrow, it would be a very, very bad sign.
I would also suggest any offensive struggles against Florida should be taken as a bad sign as we will play plenty of teams more capable than Florida.
You guys have a very different definition of "solid" that I do. All of his hires were at the minimum solid, and many could be argued better than that.Ugly said:Klein and Moffit were both high profile guys that I believe were our first choice. Those are probably the only "solid" hires, though a number of the Duke guys following Elko seemed decent considering what they did there. All of the Florida guys on defense are suspicious, though.4 said:
Elko got what he could. None of his hires seemed very solid, despite what TA told everyone.
