Maybe I shouldn't say this, but I'm afraid that over the past 12 years, we failed to make a big splash in the SEC.
The Chicken Ranch said:
No.
I don't know how to bang it into your thick skulls, but no one is going to care about watching A&M vs Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers, Northwestern. Want to give up your regional games with LSU, Arkansas, OU, tu, MSU, OM? Alabama, Auburn for that? Really? Lack of regional interest is what is going to kill college sports, and the B1G model will fail without regional groups.
It isn't just about money, it's about interest in the match ups. Now that we have history with the SEC, and a ton of history with tu, Arky and LSU - THOSE ARE OUR RIVALRIES! Do you really want to quit playing schools we have history with and play schools we've never played before? And what do you do about baseball?
This B1G crap needs to die. Get over y'all's butthurt about tu.
The Chicken Ranch said:
So you want to run from them? And all the other schools we play? And start playing schools we've never played? And kill our baseball program?
You are hopeless.
I see your removal and likely ban didn't take…Big Ed Bookman said:
Yet another article where someone pontificates on how powerful Texas is and how 2nd rate we are.
TyperWoods said:The Chicken Ranch said:
So you want to run from them? And all the other schools we play? And start playing schools we've never played? And kill our baseball program?
You are hopeless.
Did I say any of that? No, I didn't.
SMH
But, I want to be in the winning conference. B1G is currently outpacing the SEC in footprint and revenue. I don't see anything from Snakey that makes me think that will change.
If you want to play the sips above all else, that's on you, not me.
rootube said:
Here's another way to look at it. What did horn do in the B12 when Nebraska, Colorado Missouri and A&M left? To read these articles you would assume they dominated but in reality they got their tails kicked in by the likes of OU and TCU for a decade.
This.The Chicken Ranch said:
No.
I don't know how to bang it into your thick skulls, but no one is going to care about watching A&M vs Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers, Northwestern. Want to give up your regional games with LSU, Arkansas, OU, tu, MSU, OM? Alabama, Auburn for that? Really? Lack of regional interest is what is going to kill college sports, and the B1G model will fail without regional groups.
It isn't just about money, it's about interest in the match ups. Now that we have history with the SEC, and a ton of history with tu, Arky and LSU - THOSE ARE OUR RIVALRIES! Do you really want to quit playing schools we have history with and play schools we've never played before? And what do you do about baseball?
This B1G crap needs to die. Get over y'all's butthurt about tu.
If you break it down to winning things, then the SEC is where its at. If you look at who won the National Championships in college athletics this past year and where those schools are now located (after realignment this year) it breaks down like thisTyperWoods said:The Chicken Ranch said:
So you want to run from them? And all the other schools we play? And start playing schools we've never played? And kill our baseball program?
You are hopeless.
Did I say any of that? No, I didn't.
SMH
But, I want to be in the winning conference. B1G is currently outpacing the SEC in footprint and revenue. I don't see anything from Snakey that makes me think that will change.
If you want to play the sips above all else, that's on you, not me.
wangus12 said:If you break it down to winning things, then the SEC is where its at. If you look at who won the National Championships in college athletics this past year and where those schools are now located (after realignment this year) it breaks down like thisTyperWoods said:The Chicken Ranch said:
So you want to run from them? And all the other schools we play? And start playing schools we've never played? And kill our baseball program?
You are hopeless.
Did I say any of that? No, I didn't.
SMH
But, I want to be in the winning conference. B1G is currently outpacing the SEC in footprint and revenue. I don't see anything from Snakey that makes me think that will change.
If you want to play the sips above all else, that's on you, not me.
SEC: 11 Titles (Baseball, Men's Golf, Men's Outdoor T&F, Women's Basketball, Women's Gymnastics, Women's Indoor & Outdoor T&F, Women's Rowing, Softball, Women's Tennis, Women's Volleyball
ACC: 10 Titles (Men's Gymnastics, Men's & Women's Lacrosse, Men's Soccer, Men's Water Polo, Women's XC, Women's Field Hockey, Women's Golf, Women's Soccer, Women's Swimming/Diving,
Big 10: 6 Titles (Football, Men's Volleyball, Men's Wrestling, Beach Volleyball, Women's Ice Hockey, Women's Water Polo)
Big 12: 6 Titles (Men's XC, Men's Indoor T&F, Men's Swimming/Diving, Men's Tennis, Rifle, Skiing)
Other: 3 Titles (Men's Ice Hockey, Women's Bowling, Fencing
Big East: 1 Title (Men's Basketball)
If we want to be in a winning conference, you either stay in the SEC or go to the ACC (which probably won't exist in 5 years after it gets picked apart)
TyperWoods said:wangus12 said:If you break it down to winning things, then the SEC is where its at. If you look at who won the National Championships in college athletics this past year and where those schools are now located (after realignment this year) it breaks down like thisTyperWoods said:The Chicken Ranch said:
So you want to run from them? And all the other schools we play? And start playing schools we've never played? And kill our baseball program?
You are hopeless.
Did I say any of that? No, I didn't.
SMH
But, I want to be in the winning conference. B1G is currently outpacing the SEC in footprint and revenue. I don't see anything from Snakey that makes me think that will change.
If you want to play the sips above all else, that's on you, not me.
SEC: 11 Titles (Baseball, Men's Golf, Men's Outdoor T&F, Women's Basketball, Women's Gymnastics, Women's Indoor & Outdoor T&F, Women's Rowing, Softball, Women's Tennis, Women's Volleyball
ACC: 10 Titles (Men's Gymnastics, Men's & Women's Lacrosse, Men's Soccer, Men's Water Polo, Women's XC, Women's Field Hockey, Women's Golf, Women's Soccer, Women's Swimming/Diving,
Big 10: 6 Titles (Football, Men's Volleyball, Men's Wrestling, Beach Volleyball, Women's Ice Hockey, Women's Water Polo)
Big 12: 6 Titles (Men's XC, Men's Indoor T&F, Men's Swimming/Diving, Men's Tennis, Rifle, Skiing)
Other: 3 Titles (Men's Ice Hockey, Women's Bowling, Fencing
Big East: 1 Title (Men's Basketball)
If we want to be in a winning conference, you either stay in the SEC or go to the ACC (which probably won't exist in 5 years after it gets picked apart)
I'm looking to the future. If SEC doesn't add more teams and revenue, the B1G will...and will pull further ahead.
He nailed it.TMartin said:
Until A&M wins a championship in a major men's sport it's all lip service and status quo.
I should know this but I don't - did the SEC reach out to Texas and Oklahoma or was it the other way around?bamaoldtimer said:
The SEC is run by very professional people. They sit down and have dinner with Disney Executives. Disney says for us to give you more money, we need more compelling inventory. Aka! Get Texas and OU.
Gig'em and Roll Tide!
monarch said:
Screw the Yankees up north. Not flying through ORD or ERW to go to a football game.
I have no idea. I do know from my previous business dealings that a wink and nod can be very effective.Big Ed Bookman said:I should know this but I don't - did the SEC reach out to Texas and Oklahoma or was it the other way around?bamaoldtimer said:
The SEC is run by very professional people. They sit down and have dinner with Disney Executives. Disney says for us to give you more money, we need more compelling inventory. Aka! Get Texas and OU.
Gig'em and Roll Tide!
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I should know this but I don't - did the SEC reach out to Texas and Oklahoma or was it the other way around?
Little Rock Ag said:
The whole conference paradigm as we know it will likely disappear within a decade or so. We are moving towards the superconference era that will realign the big players into an NFL-lite. I'm not sure why A&M would even consider trying to make a move at this point, since it won't matter within 10-15 years what things look like now.
I agree - but - to somewhat answer your question,Little Rock Ag said:
The whole conference paradigm as we know it will likely disappear within a decade or so. We are moving towards the superconference era that will realign the big players into an NFL-lite. I'm not sure why A&M would even consider trying to make a move at this point, since it won't matter within 10-15 years what things look like now.
Ringo88 said:
I think you're absolutely right on both points. But we need to be having that conversation as well.
Every step we make going forward has to be about revenue potential. I agree that culturally the SEC is our perfect fit, and we should've joined decades ago. That said, the difference in conference revenue is now substantial, and we are currently second only to Ohio State in athletic revenue. Just like 12 years ago, we need to be ears-open to that move before someone else does. Separation creates the key advantages.