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Each SEC win totals using SP+ projections

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Since this board is fairly dead around this time of year and I have been stuck on conference calls at work all week, I decided to put together win total projections for each SEC team for this coming year, and I was actually pretty surprised at what I found. The SEC seemed to try to make more parity throughout the league based on how they assign opponents, and SP+ thinks they definitely seemed to be successful. There are a clear top 8 teams that have win totals between 9-10.5 and then only a few programs between them and teams that would require miracles to make a bowl.

Each team is discussed individually. The expected wins were calculated by grouping projected spreads into groups (toss-up games, 3-7 point games, 7-14 point games, >14 point games) and assigning a win percentage to each (50%, 35/65%, 20/80%, 5/95%). I also provided the number of games with more than 2 touchdown spreads and the number with more than one touchdown spreads as two different metrics of a team's "floor" and "ceiling". Note that I assumed FCS teams were guaranteed 2+ touchdown games for all teams since SP+ does not provide data on them, though that may not be strictly true across the board (cough..Vandy...cough).

Georgia

Expected wins:
10.4
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
9
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
9
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
12
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
12
Discussion:

Georgia plays a surprisingly difficult schedule compared to their last decade or so, but as the #1 overall team by a sizeable margin, they are going to have a pre-season advantage over everyone they play. The bulldogs open the season with Clemson, and take trips to Alabama, tu, and Ole Miss throughout the year. Those three away games are the only ones they are not double-digit favorites in, however. With the playoff expanding to 12 teams this year, it would take a minor miracle for Georgia to not repeat an appearance for yet another year.


Ole Miss

Expected wins:
10.1
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
8
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
10
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
12
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
12
Discussion:

Ole Miss is definitely one of the winners of the schedule lottery this time around (and has spent the NIL $$$ accordingly). They are double digit favorites in every game they play until they go to Death Valley October 12 (and that will be right before a bye). Georgia at home is the only other game they are not currently favored in by over a touchdown. This will more likely than not be Kiffin's third 10 win season in the last four years.




Texas

Expected wins:
10.05
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
8
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
9
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
12
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
12
Discussion:

tu has the second easiest of all SEC schedules, with 1 matchup against an opponent in the top 6 of the conference (Georgia, and they get them at home). According to current SP+ rankings, there is a cliff edge between the top 9 teams and the bottom 7. tu gets 5 of these 7. They do travel for a good non-con match against Michigan early in the season, which saves their schedule a bit. Nevertheless, anything less than 8 wins here means that something has gone drastically wrong.


Mizzou

Expected wins:
9.95
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
9
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
9
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
11
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
12
Discussion:

Mizzou is the only team that can reasonably claim an easier schedule than tu. In fact, Mizzou just swaps out Georgia and Florida for Alabama and Auburn. On top of that, they have Boston College at home as the main OOC game (though they do also travel to UMass for some reason). They could be three touchdowns worse than projections (roughly as bad as Arkansas is) and still be favored in 7 of their games. They are just slightly more than touchdown dogs to Bama on the road, and projected to be essentially even with Texas A&M on the road. Oklahoma at home is theoretically the only other close game.


LSU

Expected wins:
9.65
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
6
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
9
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
12
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
12
Discussion:

LSU are projected to have three of the closest games in the SEC next year: Bama and Ole Miss at home and at Texas A&M. They are currently favored by at least a touchdown in every other matchup.


Alabama

Expected wins:
9.55
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
6
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
8
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
12
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
12
Discussion:

The mighty haven't exactly fallen hard, but they are no longer a clear #1/#2 in the SEC either. Georgia is the only game where they are currently projected to be the dogs, but they are favored by less than 8 points against Mizzou, LSU, Oklahoma, and Tennessee, which is enough to yield more uncertainty than an Alabama schedule has had for a long time.


Texas A&M

Expected wins:
9.2
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
6
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
8
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
12
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
12
Discussion:

Texas A&M gets a major break from their typical SEC West schedule with one of the easier line-ups in the conference. We are projected as roughly a touchdown dog to tu for the season closer, and games against LSU, Notre Dame, and Mizzou are projected to be within a field goal apiece. We will be at least a touchdown favorite in everything else.


Tennessee

Expected wins:
9.05
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
7
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
9
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
11
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
11
Discussion:

Tennessee has one game, at Georgia, where they should be a double digit dog, and they will be dogs against Bama and at Oklahoma. Otherwise they will be double digit favorites against everyone else on their schedule.



Oklahoma

Expected wins:
7.7
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
5
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
6
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
10
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
12
Discussion:

Oklahoma is somewhere between this top group of teams and the next due to a very difficult schedule. They get six of the top 9 teams, including tu as always, plus a very SEC West-style grouping of with Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, and Tennessee and Mizzou to round things out. Of these six, they are only favored against Tennessee currently, though they will be double digit favorites in their other six games.



Auburn

Expected wins:
6.5
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
4
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
6
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
7
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
9
Discussion:

This marks the top of the bottom 7, and there is quite a drop off. All of the top 9 except for Oklahoma have at least 9 expected wins and all have a reasonable path to an 11- or 12-win season. Auburn does not. In fact this team is projected to just barely reach bowl eligibility. The season starts off good, with a record of 4-0 likely, but a stretch of Oklahoma, at Georgia, BYE, at Mizzou then at Kentucky could have them back to a 0.500 record by the end of October. Ending the season on a double header of Texas A&M and the Iron bowl is no easy task either.


Kentucky

Expected wins:
6.05
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
4
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
4
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
8
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
8
Discussion:

Bowl game eligibility for Kentucky this season rides on the outcomes of the South Carolina, Auburn, Florida, and Louisville games. If they can go at least 2-2 through that group, they should make it. There probably aren't many other chances to pick up or drop games outside of these, as the rest of their games should be multiple touchdown blowouts one way or the other.


Florida

Expected wins:
4.7
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
1
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
3
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
5
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
9
Discussion:

If Oklahoma, Auburn, Kentucky represent a relatively clear Tier 2 struggling with bowl eligibility, then the next few teams are a clear Tier 3 with almost no shot of getting to 6 wins. Florida at least can blame a lot of this on an absolutely atrocious schedule. They only play two teams from the bottom 7 of the conference, and play both of them in away game. On top of that, they play a very dangerous Miami team, the preseason ACC champion favorite Florida State, and a now-P4 UCF. This is why you don't schedule all P4 opponent; Florida is currently only favored in four games (Clanga, UCF, Kentucky, and their FCS opponent Samford). That is absolutely brutal. A early game against Miami is a toss-up, at least, but if Napier can find a way to get a 6th win, he's probably sticking around for another year.


USCe

Expected wins:
4.55
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
3
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
4
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
5
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
6
Discussion:

South Carolina, like most SEC schools, plays two G6 schools and one FCS school. In addition to that, they get Vanderbilt on their schedule. Those might be the only bright points in what could be a dismal season. The most competitive game of the year is projected to be at Kentucky, where they are a slight underdog. Otherwise, they are projected as double digit dogs in the other 7 games they play.


Arkansas

Expected wins:
3.95
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
2
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
3
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
4
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
6
Discussion:

Arkansas is having a rough time at the moment, with SP+ defining them as the most mediocre team in FBS (their SP+ score of 0.0 means that they would be projected to be in a dead heat with the prototypical average team this year). That's … not a good thing in the SEC these days. Like South Carolina, they have two G5 games, an FCS game, and a game against fellow bottom dweller Clanga to give them some hope. However, if the home stretch of Tennessee, LSU, (at Clanga), Ole Miss, and tu truly ends up with three triple score losses and a double score loss, Pittman will probably be out around the same time as Napier.


Clanga

Expected wins:
4.1
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
2
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
2
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
5
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
6
Discussion:

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Vanderbilt

Expected wins:
2.9
Games favored by at least two touchdowns:
1
Games favored by at least one touchdown:
2
Games favored or underdogs by less than one touchdowns:
3
Games favored or underdogs by less than two touchdowns:
4
Discussion:

"Football? Oh yeah, we're definitely still doing it. We even have most of a stadium and everything. Still the same payout as everyone else, right? Excellent, see you next year." While walking away, a muttered "suckers" can be heard.

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So 7-5 again?
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10 wins for the Sips?

Take the OP's Ag Tag away. Those near misses last year won't be W's this year. And they got swept off the field in the playoff game by a very mediocre team.
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How much $ you throwing on it?
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I think Auburn is going to be much better than they were last year, and they already proved to be a tough out at home in year 1 under Freeze.

I think Auburn wins 8 games.

they will start 5-0, 2-0 in the sEC with wins over ark and OU

they will lose to georgia and probably at mizzou

then they will beat kentucky, vandy and ulm

that's 8 wins right there.

they finish with A&M at home and then at bama

if they beat us they will get to 9 wins.

so I'm picking them for 8 wins.

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CCMU Coach said:

10 wins for the Sips?

Take the OP's Ag Tag away. Those near misses last year won't be W's this year. And they got swept off the field in the playoff game by a very mediocre team.
I hear what you are saying about those near misses but they play a comparable schedule in '24 as they did in '23. Texas is staring at 9 wins. Michigan lost their head coach and roughly 19 starters. Miss State is going to be awful, like Baylor awful. Florida is a wreck in terms of roster and their coach is a lame duck, Arkansas has the same talent as tech (who texas beat 50-7), Vanderbilt lolz, and OU is maybe a 7 win team due to a gutted roster.
People need to prepare themselves for Texas having a really good season in 2024. It doesnt mean they are a great team, just means they caught a break in the schedule.
Washington was mediocre? Come on, that is a rookie statement.
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Plus, swept off the field by Washington? The game was close and Texas almost won on the last play. Some of y'all really need to take off your maroon glasses.
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Is Michigan really going to be a tough game? Didn't they lose all their best players along with their HC? I bet Michigan ends up being an 8-4 team and not much of a SoS booster
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We won't be a TD dog to tu by the time the game rolls around. I think we'll be slightly favored if the season goes how I think it will
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CCMU Coach said:

10 wins for the Sips?

Take the OP's Ag Tag away. Those near misses last year won't be W's this year. And they got swept off the field in the playoff game by a very mediocre team.
What? A top 10 team is not mediocre. The Huskies were a good team. Don't need to misrepresent the truth to support your opinion.
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p8aggie said:

Is Michigan really going to be a tough game? Didn't they lose all their best players along with their HC? I bet Michigan ends up being an 8-4 team and not much of a SoS booster


I mean, we heard the same thing a couple years ago when Georgia lost most of its defense. Hard to say what Michigan will look like.
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Guy12 said:

p8aggie said:

Is Michigan really going to be a tough game? Didn't they lose all their best players along with their HC? I bet Michigan ends up being an 8-4 team and not much of a SoS booster


I mean, we heard the same thing a couple years ago when Georgia lost most of its defense. Hard to say what Michigan will look like.
Losing your head coach and approximately 18 starters including the multi year QB is a lot to replace. Their 2024 team is going to be Edwards at RB and a bunch of new guys. Texas is breaking in a lot on defense and at skill so who knows.
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Based on our home and away schedule, I think our floor is 8-4 and our ceiling is 10-2. Hopefully, we will snap a 10-game road losing streak with a win at Florida on 9/14. Otherwise, our road losing streak will reach 11 games, and we will have to wait until our next road game at Mississippi State on 10/19 to snap that road losing streak. We have not won a true road game since a 35-14 win at Missouri on 10/16/21.
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tu is not going to flirt with 10 wins. They will be underdogs when they play us at Kyle Field and will lose to Michigan at Ann Arbor which will start their struggles. Ou and Georgia will give them 2 more losses and they will discover that yes Miss State and Arkansas are harder to beat than Baylor and tech.
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The MSU breakdown is by far the most insightful
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Pretty sure the OP didn't pay much attention during all those conference calls.
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Spreadsheet Ag. Looks like someone is coming for your job bro!
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Well, damn. Guess I don't have to watch the season anymore.
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LincolnBorglum79 said:

tu is not going to flirt with 10 wins. They will be underdogs when they play us at Kyle Field and will lose to Michigan at Ann Arbor which will start their struggles. Ou and Georgia will give them 2 more losses and they will discover that yes Miss State and Arkansas are harder to beat than Baylor and tech.
Why is everyone so high on OU? They lost every single OL that started for them to the draft or portal. Getting new QB. Most of their players will be freshmen and sophomores in the meat grinder of a schedule. They will be lucky to win 7 games. OU is going to lose to Texas due to inexperience.
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GA should have a higher win projection.

The big thing missing is the physicality and injury issue that the newbies are going to face in 2024.
The only thing that saves tu is if Arch is the next superstar Manning, and if he can't beat the most overpaid mediocre QB AKA Ewers he's probably is not the next NFL Manning. Peyton or Eli would have been starting Day 1 in Austin.

If A&M stays healthy and starts off beating Notre Dame I'd predict a 10 win season

Ole Miss collapsing in another Mississippi scandal the way only Ole Miss can do it.
Kiffin has a history of wrecking his own success. His personality disfunction will sink the Rebs.

LSU better get prison reform and a new bail program before Kelly goes to the BIG.

The rest of the SEC is over-hyped mediocrity.





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LincolnBorglum79 said:

tu is not going to flirt with 10 wins. They will be underdogs when they play us at Kyle Field and will lose to Michigan at Ann Arbor which will start their struggles. Ou and Georgia will give them 2 more losses and they will discover that yes Miss State and Arkansas are harder to beat than Baylor and tech.
Since you're on record of predicting a 4-8 record for the sips in their first season in the SEC with Sark being fired immediately after, I assume you're loading up at Vegas with this genius analysis.
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I'd bet money on Texas winning 9 games or less this season. Georgia and Michigan are both probable losses. And they'll likely lose at least one more between OU, A&M (hopeful), and the rest of the SEC gauntlet.

I think this will be a coming-back-down-to-earth season for them, just not on the level TCU just had. They needed some luck to get to the playoffs last year, though it's rare that teams get their without luck, Bama also had luck against both Auburn and Georgia.

This will be an interesting year for the SEC though. With Bama losing Saban and LSU losing their Heisman winner, two SEC losses might be enough to put a team in the SEC championship game. There's not an obvious second behind Georgia.
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NowhereMan said:


GA should have a higher win projection.

The big thing missing is the physicality and injury issue that the newbies are going to face in 2024.
The only thing that saves tu is if Arch is the next superstar Manning, and if he can't beat the most overpaid mediocre QB AKA Ewers he's probably is not the next NFL Manning. Peyton or Eli would have been starting Day 1 in Austin.

If A&M stays healthy and starts off beating Notre Dame I'd predict a 10 win season

Ole Miss collapsing in another Mississippi scandal the way only Ole Miss can do it.
Kiffin has a history of wrecking his own success. His personality disfunction will sink the Rebs.

LSU better get prison reform and a new bail program before Kelly goes to the BIG.

The rest of the SEC is over-hyped mediocrity.






There is a lot of truth to this post. Georgia is going to be elite. Ole Miss will be dangerous if they get rolling but if they drop a game unexpectedly I could see the wheels falling off. LSU lost a ton and will be very young but strong on the OL which could help them. I do believe there will be a lot of mediocre football teams in the SEC this fall, and due to the portal the depth is not the same as it was in 2018. Notre Dame and Michigan are both rebuilding, A&M should pull the "upset" and Texas will beat an 8 win Michigan team. Much to the chagrin of Texags, A&M has all the makings of being a top tier team this fall.
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i think texas beats michigan by at least a touchdown

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CCMU Coach said:

10 wins for the Sips?

Take the OP's Ag Tag away. Those near misses last year won't be W's this year. And they got swept off the field in the playoff game by a very mediocre team.

This is an absolutely moronic take in multiple ways. You must live in a state of constant disappointment.
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TXAG 05 said:

Plus, swept off the field by Washington? The game was close and Texas almost won on the last play. Some of y'all really need to take off your maroon glasses.


They were dominated all game and game was in garbage time before Waz's RB went down forcing a timeout and breathing life into the horns.
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Georgia is going to play with their hair on fire all season, Kirby will see to it and they will become the new Bama
I wanna see our defense pissed off, not confused, maybe a little murder in their hearts Reload12, 11/4/11
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NewEra2023 said:

TXAG 05 said:

Plus, swept off the field by Washington? The game was close and Texas almost won on the last play. Some of y'all really need to take off your maroon glasses.


They were dominated all game and game was in garbage time before Waz's RB went down forcing a timeout and breathing life into the horns.

I don't know, looks pretty close to me.

TEXAS 7 14 0 10 31
WASH 7 14 10 6 37
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BMX Bandit said:

i think texas beats michigan by at least a touchdown


The faction of Aggies that are banking on Michigan and OU beating Texas are in for a rough season. Both of those games will be Texas by double digits with the media saying they are the best wins of the decade.
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

BMX Bandit said:

i think texas beats michigan by at least a touchdown


The faction of Aggies that are banking on Michigan and OU beating Texas are in for a rough season. Both of those games will be Texas by double digits with the media saying they are the best wins of the decade.
Michigan would be the favored team if y'all played that game next week, according to the numbers I used for the OP.
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Ugly said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

BMX Bandit said:

i think texas beats michigan by at least a touchdown


The faction of Aggies that are banking on Michigan and OU beating Texas are in for a rough season. Both of those games will be Texas by double digits with the media saying they are the best wins of the decade.
Michigan would be the favored team if y'all played that game next week, according to the numbers I used for the OP.
I am an Aggie, so please do not say "y'all" just because I believe Texas is going to beat two mediocre teams in Michigan and OU. People think Michigan and OU are going to be loaded this fall, not happening. How can Michigan lose their entire starting squad and their head coach and still be favored? That math doesnt math. Its ok to admit Texas may have a good season. I think we at Texas A&M can beat them to get to 10 or even 11 regular season wins in '24. This board gets their panties in a wad if a person says A&M is going to have a great 2024 and Texas is going to be good. Such a strange group of people.
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Welcome to the zoo. Unless your opinion is that the sips will lose every game (despite also paying the refs off), you're a troll.

The off-season bluster remains hilarious.
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CCMU Coach said:

10 wins for the Sips?

... they got swept off the field in the playoff game by a very mediocre team...

Swept off = came down to the last play of the game

mediocre team = CFP finalist
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Quote:

Michigan would be the favored team if y'all played that game next week, according to the numbers I used for the OP.


According to actual casinos, Texas is favored by 2.5.

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BMX Bandit said:

Quote:

Michigan would be the favored team if y'all played that game next week, according to the numbers I used for the OP.


According to actual casinos, Texas is favored by 2.5.


These posters haven't bothered at looking at facts this entire thread, why start now? Easier for them to just assume OU and Michigan are going to stacked instead of doing actual research.
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