These teams are in CFP ahead of Ags with less resources, facilities, recruiting, cheaper coach..

Ole Miss
Louisville
Oregon St
Mizzou
Kansas
Utah
Arizona
Iowa
Tulane
UNC
K State

Why are we so mediocre…!!! JIMBO…. But why does every coach we hire always have us stuck in mediocrity.. what is the the issue. Seriously..!

Nothing new for us. We've been underperforming relative to our advantages for a long time.

How many of those teams are actually better than us, though? We aren't very good, that is apparent, but a lot of these team's rankings are inflated to bolster playoff resumes.

Louisville's best wins are over unranked teams, and they have a 17-point loss to 2-7 Pitt.

Oklahoma St. lost to Sun Belt bottom-dweller, South Alabama, by 26(!!!!!) points. They also lost to 5-4 Iowa State...there is absolutely no way that they are a top-15 team in the country.

Missouri has a ranked win over KSU (who remained in the poll despite losing last week when ranked 23) and has lost by two scores to the two other ranked teams that they have played.

Kansas has a 26-point loss on their resume, a loss to Oklahoma St., who lost to Southern Alabama by 26, and their lone impressive result is a fluke win over OU.

Arizona has three losses, including two against unranked opponents, Mississippi St. and USC.

Iowa has 0 ranked wins and a 31-point loss to Penn. St. and a loss to 5-4 Minnesota.

Tulane lost to the one relevant team they played (Ole Miss) by 17. Some of their notable wins include a 3-point win against ECU, a 2-point win over Rice, and a 7-point win over North Texas.

KSU also has three losses and no ranked wins. It boggles my mind they stayed in the poll after losing when they were ranked 23rd.

A&M is not very good this year, but we are better than a lot of these teams. If you are dropping games against South Alabama, Pitt, Mississippi St., Minnesota, etc., you probably are going 0-3 against Alabama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee.

I'm almost convinced it's the College Station water...

Only thing that list proves is having access to a tremendous amount of money isn't necessary.

Don't worry.

Jimbo just needs a chance and we will be up there in no time.

45-70Ag said:

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Only thing that list proves is having access to a tremendous amount of money isn't necessary.

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Or playing easy schedules makes it easier to stay in the polls.

Power ratings exist for a reason. You aren't always what your record says you are, and thus you aren't always what your ranking says you are.

We've lost close to 3 good teams. Miami is a blemish on the resume, however.

A lot of those teams you mentioned have the same or worse records if they play our schedule.

However, we play in the SEC, and its expected to have a tough schedule. We aren't paying Jimbo to lose close, so at the end of the day, we need to start winning.

But just because a team's record is better than ours doesn't mean they're better than us.

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I'm almost convinced it's the College Station water...

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HJack20 said:

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We've lost close to 3 good teams. Miami is a blemish on the resume, however.

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Maybe you're satisfied with us being a traditional average-mediocre team, but just for once, I'd like to see A&M not care about what kind of team they lost to and just focus on winning no matter who the opponent is.

PyriteAg said:

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HJack20 said:

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We've lost close to 3 good teams. Miami is a blemish on the resume, however.

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Maybe you're satisfied with us being a traditional average-mediocre team, but just for once, I'd like to see A&M not care about what kind of team they lost to and just focus on winning no matter who the opponent is.

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I don't think anyone is satisfied. Just making the point that we are probably better than a number of teams currently in the poll.

PyriteAg said:

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HJack20 said:

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We've lost close to 3 good teams. Miami is a blemish on the resume, however.

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Maybe you're satisfied with us being a traditional average-mediocre team, but just for once, I'd like to see A&M not care about what kind of team they lost to and just focus on winning no matter who the opponent is.

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No, Im not satisfied. I want to WIN games against good competition. Im just saying that it is possible to be a good team and still lose to better teams. Rankings look at record more than anything.

Zachary Klement said:

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How many of those teams are actually better than us, though? We aren't very good, that is apparent, but a lot of these team's rankings are inflated to bolster playoff resumes.

Louisville's best wins are over unranked teams, and they have a 17-point loss to 2-7 Pitt.

Oklahoma St. lost to Sun Belt bottom-dweller, South Alabama, by 26(!!!!!) points. They also lost to 5-4 Iowa State...there is absolutely no way that they are a top-15 team in the country.

Missouri has a ranked win over KSU (who remained in the poll despite losing last week when ranked 23) and has lost by two scores to the two other ranked teams that they have played.

Kansas has a 26-point loss on their resume, a loss to Oklahoma St., who lost to Southern Alabama by 26, and their lone impressive result is a fluke win over OU.

Arizona has three losses, including two against unranked opponents, Mississippi St. and USC.

Iowa has 0 ranked wins and a 31-point loss to Penn. St. and a loss to 5-4 Minnesota.

Tulane lost to the one relevant team they played (Ole Miss) by 17. Some of their notable wins include a 3-point win against ECU, a 2-point win over Rice, and a 7-point win over North Texas.

KSU also has three losses and no ranked wins. It boggles my mind they stayed in the poll after losing when they were ranked 23rd.

A&M is not very good this year, but we are better than a lot of these teams. If you are dropping games against South Alabama, Pitt, Mississippi St., Minnesota, etc., you probably are going 0-3 against Alabama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee.

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Appalachian State

Maybe but we aren't very good and our coaching is probably worse than any of those teams.

Because we never hire up and coming HC's. We always hire once successful but past their prime HC's who see this position as a way to get an easy retirement.

HJack20 said:

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PyriteAg said:

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HJack20 said:

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We've lost close to 3 good teams. Miami is a blemish on the resume, however.

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Maybe you're satisfied with us being a traditional average-mediocre team, but just for once, I'd like to see A&M not care about what kind of team they lost to and just focus on winning no matter who the opponent is.

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No, Im not satisfied. I want to WIN games against good competition. Im just saying that it is possible to be a good team and still lose to better teams. Rankings look at record more than anything.

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If we were on track to having double digit wins (2 losses), then I'd agree with you. 4 losses though? It's really meaningless to analyze how good or bad our losses were, because honestly, how does that get us to the playoffs or even a Ny6?

Me saying that to you was kinda unfair but it's mostly because I'm reaching a boiling point with the comment, "We lost to a really good X team". It has become the ultimate loser excuse for sunshine pumpers preaching how thinking anything more than that is "toxic" and "not reasonable". Pretty good gaslighting technique by them to prevent other fans for demanding for more.

I just strongly think that kind of comment hurts the standards of this fanbase and ultimately the program at this point.

PyriteAg said:

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HJack20 said:

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We've lost close to 3 good teams. Miami is a blemish on the resume, however.

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Maybe you're satisfied with us being a traditional average-mediocre team, but just for once, I'd like to see A&M not care about what kind of team they lost to and just focus on winning no matter who the opponent is.

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Exactly!!! There is a strong culture of making excuses… explaining away why we didn't succeed. It's hard to be successful when you have already built in your "don't worry.., it's ok you failed" safety plan.

But hey… we are the best ___ loss team in the nation, right?!

Zachary Klement said:

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I don't think anyone is satisfied. Just making the point that we are probably better than a number of teams currently in the poll.

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Coryhub said:

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Why are we so mediocre…!!! JIMBO…. But why does every coach we hire always have us stuck in mediocrity.. what is the the issue. Seriously..!

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Maybe it's not a coaching issue…

How can you blame Jimbo when this program has under achieved pretty much .. forever??

I could understand if we had multiple national tires and conference titles and one coach changed that bit that's not the case

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Coryhub said:

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Why are we so mediocre…!!! JIMBO…. But why does every coach we hire always have us stuck in mediocrity.. what is the the issue. Seriously..!

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Maybe it's not a coaching issue…

How can you blame Jimbo when this program has under achieved pretty much .. forever??

I could understand if we had multiple national tires and conference titles and one coach changed that bit that's not the case

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In the grand scheme of things, you're absolutely right. It's not just a coaching issue.

It's the issue of the people constantly hiring retreads and old coaches that are looking to retire soon. They're not letting the AD do his job with analyzing the pool for the best candidates and hiring the right guy to be the head coach.

At the same time, people who should be holding these guys accountable are the fans. They should be voicing their displeasure, demanding for more, and not giving money or any resources to the program if they truly want to see a better product on the field. Capitalism 101, and Aggies have traditionally failed at this for decades.

We have cultivated a tradition of failure where we value momentary pleasure over the fight for success.

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Zachary Klement said:

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How many of those teams are actually better than us, though? We aren't very good, that is apparent, but a lot of these team's rankings are inflated to bolster playoff resumes.

Louisville's best wins are over unranked teams, and they have a 17-point loss to 2-7 Pitt.

Oklahoma St. lost to Sun Belt bottom-dweller, South Alabama, by 26(!!!!!) points. They also lost to 5-4 Iowa State...there is absolutely no way that they are a top-15 team in the country.

Missouri has a ranked win over KSU (who remained in the poll despite losing last week when ranked 23) and has lost by two scores to the two other ranked teams that they have played.

Kansas has a 26-point loss on their resume, a loss to Oklahoma St., who lost to Southern Alabama by 26, and their lone impressive result is a fluke win over OU.

Arizona has three losses, including two against unranked opponents, Mississippi St. and USC.

Iowa has 0 ranked wins and a 31-point loss to Penn. St. and a loss to 5-4 Minnesota.

Tulane lost to the one relevant team they played (Ole Miss) by 17. Some of their notable wins include a 3-point win against ECU, a 2-point win over Rice, and a 7-point win over North Texas.

KSU also has three losses and no ranked wins. It boggles my mind they stayed in the poll after losing when they were ranked 23rd.

A&M is not very good this year, but we are better than a lot of these teams. If you are dropping games against South Alabama, Pitt, Mississippi St., Minnesota, etc., you probably are going 0-3 against Alabama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee.

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Appalachian State

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Not this season.

SBISA Victim said:

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Because we never hire up and coming HC's. We always hire once successful but past their prime HC's who see this position as a way to get an easy retirement.

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Sumlin was an up and comer.

Yep. "Up and comer" is the new Texags coach buzzword. Funny how short everyone's memories are.

Coryhub said:

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These teams are in CFP ahead of Ags with less resources, facilities, recruiting, cheaper coach..

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It takes more than money to get to the top

Coryhub said:

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These teams are in CFP ahead of Ags with less resources, facilities, recruiting, cheaper coach..

Ole Miss
Louisville
Oregon St
Mizzou
Kansas
Utah
Arizona
Iowa
Tulane
UNC
K State

Why are we so mediocre…!!! JIMBO…. But why does every coach we hire always have us stuck in mediocrity.. what is the the issue. Seriously..!

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Dont forget our most important resource: fans using trolling to not just control outcomes but inflame emotions!!!!

SBISA Victim said:

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Because we never hire up and coming HC's. We always hire once successful but past their prime HC's who see this position as a way to get an easy retirement

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Kevin Sumlin says Hi, he was an "up and comer" how did that work out outside of 2012/2013?

But we are not. Regardless of what excuse you throw out the proof in the pudding. We stink.

A loss is a loss. Nobody does less with more than the Aggies.

Coryhub said:

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These teams are in CFP ahead of Ags with less resources, facilities, recruiting, cheaper coach..

Ole Miss
Louisville
Oregon St
Mizzou
Kansas
Utah
Arizona
Iowa
Tulane
UNC
K State

Why are we so mediocre…!!! JIMBO…. But why does every coach we hire always have us stuck in mediocrity.. what is the the issue. Seriously..!

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We're soft. Bright complex is nothing more than a country club. Teams like bama & lsu have that dog in them that we don't. Our entire shtick that the rest of the college football world sees is that we're really nice & we have a lot of money. Nobody is scared to come to Kyle Field & play us. Opposing teams actively make fun of us & take pictures on our logo taunting us after games.

When you have a long track record of choking in big-time games on national TV...especially road games...you're never going to get votes from any poll or the CFP committee.
It has nothing to do with how good or strong your team really is...it has to do with watching a talented team choke repeatedly on national TV.
You get a reputation where nobody votes for you.
Only cure is winning.

Zachary Klement said:

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How many of those teams are actually better than us, though? We aren't very good, that is apparent, but a lot of these team's rankings are inflated to bolster playoff resumes.

Louisville's best wins are over unranked teams, and they have a 17-point loss to 2-7 Pitt.

Oklahoma St. lost to Sun Belt bottom-dweller, South Alabama, by 26(!!!!!) points. They also lost to 5-4 Iowa State...there is absolutely no way that they are a top-15 team in the country.

Missouri has a ranked win over KSU (who remained in the poll despite losing last week when ranked 23) and has lost by two scores to the two other ranked teams that they have played.

Kansas has a 26-point loss on their resume, a loss to Oklahoma St., who lost to Southern Alabama by 26, and their lone impressive result is a fluke win over OU.

Arizona has three losses, including two against unranked opponents, Mississippi St. and USC.

Iowa has 0 ranked wins and a 31-point loss to Penn. St. and a loss to 5-4 Minnesota.

Tulane lost to the one relevant team they played (Ole Miss) by 17. Some of their notable wins include a 3-point win against ECU, a 2-point win over Rice, and a 7-point win over North Texas.

KSU also has three losses and no ranked wins. It boggles my mind they stayed in the poll after losing when they were ranked 23rd.

A&M is not very good this year, but we are better than a lot of these teams. If you are dropping games against South Alabama, Pitt, Mississippi St., Minnesota, etc., you probably are going 0-3 against Alabama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee.

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yo you and me got the same last name hombre. pretty sure we gotta be related.

Coryhub said:

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These teams are in CFP ahead of Ags with less resources, facilities, recruiting, cheaper coach..

Ole Miss
Louisville
Oregon St
Mizzou
Kansas
Utah
Arizona
Iowa
Tulane
UNC
K State

Why are we so mediocre…!!! JIMBO…. But why does every coach we hire always have us stuck in mediocrity.. what is the the issue. Seriously..!

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We would beat all of those teams except ole Miss obviously. And they all play in weaker conferences.

Zachary Klement said:

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How many of those teams are actually better than us, though? We aren't very good, that is apparent, but a lot of these team's rankings are inflated to bolster playoff resumes.

Louisville's best wins are over unranked teams, and they have a 17-point loss to 2-7 Pitt.

Oklahoma St. lost to Sun Belt bottom-dweller, South Alabama, by 26(!!!!!) points. They also lost to 5-4 Iowa State...there is absolutely no way that they are a top-15 team in the country.

Missouri has a ranked win over KSU (who remained in the poll despite losing last week when ranked 23) and has lost by two scores to the two other ranked teams that they have played.

Kansas has a 26-point loss on their resume, a loss to Oklahoma St., who lost to Southern Alabama by 26, and their lone impressive result is a fluke win over OU.

Arizona has three losses, including two against unranked opponents, Mississippi St. and USC.

Iowa has 0 ranked wins and a 31-point loss to Penn. St. and a loss to 5-4 Minnesota.

Tulane lost to the one relevant team they played (Ole Miss) by 17. Some of their notable wins include a 3-point win against ECU, a 2-point win over Rice, and a 7-point win over North Texas.

KSU also has three losses and no ranked wins. It boggles my mind they stayed in the poll after losing when they were ranked 23rd.

A&M is not very good this year, but we are better than a lot of these teams. If you are dropping games against South Alabama, Pitt, Mississippi St., Minnesota, etc., you probably are going 0-3 against Alabama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee.

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Some of those teams have good wins. A&M does not. A&M's best win is what, Auburn? They are awful.

Okie State has beaten ranked KU and OU. They are a different team from the one who lost to South Alabama as they chose a QB and Ollie Gordon is getting 30 touches a game instead of 4 touches.

Missouri has 3 wins better than anything A&M has -- K State, Kentucky and Memphis

KU has beaten OU. 2 losses are to two top 15 teams.

Arizona has 2 wins better than anything A&M has -- UCLA and Oregon State.

Iowa has beaten ISU and Wisconsin. Not great, but both better than Auburn.

K State has beaten no one.

Coryhub said:

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These teams are in CFP ahead of Ags with less resources, facilities, recruiting, cheaper coach..

Ole Miss They really aren't as far behind in the $$ game as you'd think, and Kiffin is a good coach.
Louisville This team is having one of the best years in their recent memory and is roughly even with us in predictive models.
Oregon St This team is having one of the best years in their recent memory and is roughly even with us in predictive models.
Mizzou I can't find a predictive model that says they are better than us.
Kansas These guys are nowhere near us in predictive models.
Utah I can't find a predictive model that says they are better than us.
Arizona I can't find a predictive model that says they are better than us.
Iowa These guys are nowhere near us in predictive models.
Tulane These guys are nowhere near us in predictive models.
UNC I can't find a predictive model that says they are better than us.
K State You may have a point here, though it is worth pointing out that their best win so far is against...maybe TCU? Texas Tech? They've played a lot of fluff competition is what I am saying.

Why are we so mediocre…!!! JIMBO…. But why does every coach we hire always have us stuck in mediocrity.. what is the the issue. Seriously..!

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I hate to break this to you, but you 90% of what you typed above can be answered with one word: schedule. CFP mainly looks at win loss record, and that favors teams in the less competitive conferences/divisions. There are maybe four teams in you list that would be favored against us in a bowl game right now, including Ole Miss, which only beat us by 3 points at their house (which is usually assumed to add about a 3 point advantage).

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Coryhub said:

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These teams are in CFP ahead of Ags with less resources, facilities, recruiting, cheaper coach..

Ole Miss
Louisville
Oregon St
Mizzou
Kansas
Utah
Arizona
Iowa
Tulane
UNC
K State

Why are we so mediocre…!!! JIMBO…. But why does every coach we hire always have us stuck in mediocrity.. what is the the issue. Seriously..!

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We would beat all of those teams except ole Miss obviously. And they all play in weaker conferences.

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A team that got stomped by a bad Miami team probably should not make such bold claims.

Maybe our "Digs" cause coaching complacency.