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Could Vandy get booted?

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NowhereMan
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Is there a process to boot any program with low quality stadiums?
Aggieair
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Is there a process? Yes.

*3.1.3 Suspension of Membership. Membership may be suspended at a meeting of the Chief Executive Officers. A member may be suspended at any time by a vote of at least two-thirds of the members, either indefinitely or for a stated period, for any conduct deemed to be incompatible with membership. [Clarified/Conformed 6/1/11]

*3.1.4 Termination of Membership. Membership may be terminated voluntarily by the resignation of a member or involuntarily at a meeting of the Chief Executive Officers. A vote of at least two-thirds of the members is required to terminate membership. Any motion to terminate membership shall specify the effective date of the proposed termination. [Clarified/Conformed 6/1/11]

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Would Vandy get booted? Doubt it. They're a built in cupcake to absorb L's. Not to mention academic prowess, supposedly protection from FOIA, etc.
The Lost
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No way you're getting 10 votes to terminate them.

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Would all be no's because they in theory could be booted too. And uga and a few others aren't going to turn down the w. No one's getting kicked out.

Plus someone's always going to be the worst in the conference and that's ok.

In theory a mega conference of 20-30, which would no longer be the sec could, but thatd be suicide and kill off all casual fans and reduce the mega schools money too as most would just watch nfl, not schools they dgaf about.

The playoff will go to 16, and the big 12/pac marriage and acc will all get auto bids along with a group of 5, so that everyone is halfway interested in dreaming of their school playing. The big schools need these casual fans, not to alienate them. There are way too many other entertainment options to just abandon 100 of 130 schools.
Ag Tag
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How could anyone want to expel an SEC charter member who has done nothing wrong?
TwoTimeAg
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Need a private school to keep some things from being released as a conference.
Emilio Fantastico
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So it looks like we can get rid of the sips when they start acting like sips.
PascalsWager
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Mississippi State is a CUSA team without their coattail money they've gotten and will get.

South Carolina is probably one too.
20ag07
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How could anyone want to expel an SEC charter member who has done nothing wrong?
Because they can get more money.
Burpelson
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Need relegation!
WC94
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Vandy won a national championship in baseball in 2019, something we've never done. Much more likely our whiny asses get booted!
24601
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WC94 said:

Vandy won a national championship in baseball in 2019, something we've never done. Much more likely our whiny asses get booted!

That's dumb.
chrisocker
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TwoTimeAg said:

Need a private school to keep some things from being released as a conference.


This is the right answer on why they are going nowhere no matter what.
WC94
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24601 said:

WC94 said:

Vandy won a national championship in baseball in 2019, something we've never done. Much more likely our whiny asses get booted!

That's dumb.


Why is that dumb? With sips they retain the Texas foot print, we aren't as valuable as before. I don't understand the mightier than thou attitude only being in the conference 10 years. Didn't we just get stabbed in the back?
Ags77
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NOBODY IS GETTING BOOTED. NOBODY IS LEAVING. THE SEC IS ADDING, NOT SUBTRACTING.

now.. through yelling, lol
King
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WC94 said:

24601 said:

WC94 said:

Vandy won a national championship in baseball in 2019, something we've never done. Much more likely our whiny asses get booted!

That's dumb.


Why is that dumb? With sips they retain the Texas foot print, we aren't as valuable as before. I don't understand the mightier than thou attitude only being in the conference 10 years. Didn't we just get stabbed in the back?


We're the most valuable athletic program in the country. We ain't getting booted
Buford T. Justice
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I'm not pointing my finger at you, but your statement is true, but it is exactly what is wrong with this entire scenario, and why college athletics will eventually die.
Someone is going to go broke.
20ag07
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Didn't we just get stabbed in the back?
No, you just didn't understand it at the time.
ToxicAG
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Vanderbilt isn't getting booted because of AAU membership. A&M needs to start investing in academics like we do in sports. We are on the verge of getting kicked out - bottom of the list based on the latest numbers. Iowa State voluntarily left the AAU this year before being asked to leave.
DM44
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There is one way Vandy is removed from the SEC. ESPN tells the conference a requirement of their new $1 billion dollar contract is removing/replacing Vandy.

In that situation, the conference members will sorrowfully look Vandy's President and AD in the eyes and say "Bye".

aggiehawg
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DM44 said:

There is one way Vandy is removed from the SEC. ESPN tells the conference a requirement of their new $1 billion dollar contract is removing/replacing Vandy.

In that situation, the conference members will sorrowfully look Vandy's President and AD in the eyes and say "Bye".


Will have to be more than 1 billion a year.
BMX Bandit
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We win a woman's basketball title. It's as relevant as Vanderbilt baseball title.

Vandy isn't getting kicked out. But when the big football schools from across the country all leave in the next decade, vandy will be left behind and likely without complaint from them.
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I think focusing in a conference on how awful other conference mate "are" shows insecurity with who you are. That's why Texas's constant pursuit of demeaning and belittling other schools makes them look small.

We shouldn't copy it. We should value each conference member for what they actually contribute including a vote to invite us to their shindig.
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WC94 said:

Didn't we just get stabbed in the back?

We got stabbed in the front.
bryanw1995
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WC94 said:

24601 said:

WC94 said:

Vandy won a national championship in baseball in 2019, something we've never done. Much more likely our whiny asses get booted!

That's dumb.


Why is that dumb? With sips they retain the Texas foot print, we aren't as valuable as before. I don't understand the mightier than thou attitude only being in the conference 10 years. Didn't we just get stabbed in the back?
No, we got $20m added n the front…pocket. I'm so sick of seeing people cry about tu on this board. They were the best property outside of ND left, plus they brought OU with them. The only conference potentially foolish enough to not jump on those 2 was the B1G, though that was for non football reasons.
20ag07
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Vanderbilt isn't getting booted because of AAU membership. A&M needs to start investing in academics like we do in sports. We are on the verge of getting kicked out - bottom of the list based on the latest numbers. Iowa State voluntarily left the AAU this year before being asked to leave.
No one cares if they are playing football against AAU opponents anymore. Like literally, no one.

Not one time, has anyone at Texas A&M spent a dollar to play Nebraska, Florida, Mizzou, all the etcs, and thought "I'm sure happy to be here at this AAU matchup."

Just like the Big10 didn't care when Nebraska lost their status. And will sooner kick out Purdue while they still have theirs.
Iowaggie
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LOL on booting Vandy, next thing you'll be telling me is Southern California teams are joining the Big Ten.
Those things will never happen.
bryanw1995
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DM44 said:

There is one way Vandy is removed from the SEC. ESPN tells the conference a requirement of their new $1 billion dollar contract is removing/replacing Vandy.

In that situation, the conference members will sorrowfully look Vandy's President and AD in the eyes and say "Bye".


You think ESPN is driving this bus? WE are driving this bus. ESPN will pay whatever it takes for the privilege of showing as many of our games as they can, and they'll do it with a smile, exactly the way that we tell them to do it. Or they won't, and we will stream it all on Amazon or Apple TV +++ for $2b a year.
greg.w.h
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The current deal does not include value for Texas and OU. It was the deal we already negotiated with them.
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24601 said:

WC94 said:

Vandy won a national championship in baseball in 2019, something we've never done. Much more likely our whiny asses get booted!

That's dumb.

And....MSST won a CWS Natty last year....Ags did great this year, but we've never won a CWS world series. So....it's been a while since we have won any Natty.
TexAggie1999
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This thread is ridiculous. Vanderbilt isn't being removed from the conference. If they were, it would be a good indication that the SEC leadership is bad.

The fact that some Aggies think this should happen is sad. A non-trivial portion of our fanbase has become incredibly arrogant.
TXAG 05
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Ag86Hotard109 said:

24601 said:

WC94 said:

Vandy won a national championship in baseball in 2019, something we've never done. Much more likely our whiny asses get booted!

That's dumb.

And....MSST won a CWS Natty last year....Ags did great this year, but we've never won a CWS world series. So....it's been a while since we have won any Natty.


Plus we are only .500 against MSST in football since joining the SEC. We don't have much room to talk.
20ag07
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This thread is ridiculous. Vanderbilt isn't being removed from the conference. If they were, it would be a good indication that the SEC leadership is bad.

The fact that some Aggies think this should happen is sad. A non-trivial portion of our fanbase has become incredibly arrogant.
You say this. But don't say why.

Basketball and Baseball aren't the answer.

AAU status isn't the answer.

Private school protection isn't the answer.

They're taking a slice of the pie everybody is maximizing right now, as their legal contracts allow.

But- tell us why Vandy is being kept.
greg.w.h
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You know all teams to leave the SEC previously left of their own volition, right? That would be University of the South (Sewanee) in 1940, Georgia Tech in 1964, and Tulane in 1966. The SEC has existed continuously since 13 members of the then 20-member institution Southern Conference located south and west of Appalachian mountains left to form the Southeastern Conference in 1932.
BMX Bandit
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chrisocker said:

TwoTimeAg said:

Need a private school to keep some things from being released as a conference.


This is the right answer on why they are going nowhere no matter what.


This is an urban legend
The Chicken Ranch
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TexAggie1999 said:

This thread is ridiculous. Vanderbilt isn't being removed from the conference. If they were, it would be a good indication that the SEC leadership is bad.

The fact that some Aggies think this should happen is sad. A non-trivial portion of our fanbase has become incredibly arrogant.


20ag07 is ridiculous.
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