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Sparkie
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TnAg23 said:

Sparkie said:

TnAg23 said:

Again, I don't care about how bad things are in California. They are one of the worst run government entities in the world.

Ask Colorado, Oklahoma, and Alaska how their black market cannabis market is going.
Cigarettes are legal in New York but they are illegally trucked in to avoid the high taxes. Why pay taxes on marijuana when it's cheaper from the black market.

Colorado:

"some Colorado marijuana users would prefer to stay loyal to aa local grower compared to paying the higher dispensary prices."

"I've never seen the black market for marijuana as robust and as expertly cultivated, forgive that pun, as I have right now," said District Attorney George Brauchler, who has been a prosecutor for 25 years."


"The DEA has claimed to see a steady increase in the number of illegal marijuana plants seized since 2014"

From 2013 to 2019, the investigative plant seizures increased from 7,300 to 68,000. Over 900% increase.

"One of the largest busts occurred in the 18th Judicial District where 80,000 plants were seized across 41 homes."

The results supported some of the findings in the Hughes et al. (2019) but also challenged the
notion that medical and recreational marijuana dispensaries had the same impact on crime. The
authors found "street segments with a recreational marijuana dispensary experienced a statistically
significant increase in the level of property crime relative to controls."
Here is the link to the full article that he carefully selected these quotes from.
[url=https://www.cpr.org/2019/06/12/colorados-still-exporting-black-market-cannabis-because-it-makes-tons-of-money-in-other-states/][/url]

Colorados still Exporting Black Market Cannabis because it makes Tons of Money in Other States

It talks about how people in Colorado are exporting cannabis to other states. I have already said several times that most of what is in College Station is coming from the Legal States (Particularly Oklahoma and Colorado).



This article is NOT talking about the people of Colorado buying illegal cannabis because it's cheaper.

Because cannabis is legal in Colorado, and they don't have absurdly high tax rates, It is worth significantly more in Texas than it is in Colorado.

This leads to the incentive of transporting into Texas.

Read the WHOLE article for yourself, and form your own opinion.
Stop making **** up.

The information came from
THE LEGALIZATION OF
MARIJUANA IN COLORADO: THE IMPACT
Volume 7
September 2020
FCBlitz
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Imagine all you need to do is keep your nose clean, work out and stay in shape and you will get paid enough money for your next 2 or 3 generations of your family.

I could drink water and eat dry plain white bread and a single slice of Turkey for a year if I had to get that type of payday.

No sympathy.
94chem
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rshackelford said:

Lame. Victimless "crime" for something that shouldn't even be illegal. Let that man go.
How can it take 8 posts before someone chimed in on what they want the law to be instead of what it actually is? You guys are losing your edge.

I wish the law allowed me to skim $10 from each of your bank accounts. In fact, that's how it should be! None of you would even miss the money, and it's not fair that I could get in trouble! I want it to be that way! I want it now!
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
TnAg23
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Sparkie said:

TnAg23 said:

Sparkie said:

TnAg23 said:

Again, I don't care about how bad things are in California. They are one of the worst run government entities in the world.

Ask Colorado, Oklahoma, and Alaska how their black market cannabis market is going.
Cigarettes are legal in New York but they are illegally trucked in to avoid the high taxes. Why pay taxes on marijuana when it's cheaper from the black market.

Colorado:

"some Colorado marijuana users would prefer to stay loyal to aa local grower compared to paying the higher dispensary prices."

"I've never seen the black market for marijuana as robust and as expertly cultivated, forgive that pun, as I have right now," said District Attorney George Brauchler, who has been a prosecutor for 25 years."


"The DEA has claimed to see a steady increase in the number of illegal marijuana plants seized since 2014"

From 2013 to 2019, the investigative plant seizures increased from 7,300 to 68,000. Over 900% increase.

"One of the largest busts occurred in the 18th Judicial District where 80,000 plants were seized across 41 homes."

The results supported some of the findings in the Hughes et al. (2019) but also challenged the
notion that medical and recreational marijuana dispensaries had the same impact on crime. The
authors found "street segments with a recreational marijuana dispensary experienced a statistically
significant increase in the level of property crime relative to controls."
Here is the link to the full article that he carefully selected these quotes from.
[url=https://www.cpr.org/2019/06/12/colorados-still-exporting-black-market-cannabis-because-it-makes-tons-of-money-in-other-states/][/url]

Colorados still Exporting Black Market Cannabis because it makes Tons of Money in Other States

It talks about how people in Colorado are exporting cannabis to other states. I have already said several times that most of what is in College Station is coming from the Legal States (Particularly Oklahoma and Colorado).



This article is NOT talking about the people of Colorado buying illegal cannabis because it's cheaper.

Because cannabis is legal in Colorado, and they don't have absurdly high tax rates, It is worth significantly more in Texas than it is in Colorado.

This leads to the incentive of transporting into Texas.

Read the WHOLE article for yourself, and form your own opinion.
Stop making **** up.

The information came from
THE LEGALIZATION OF
MARIJUANA IN COLORADO: THE IMPACT
Volume 7
September 2020
This is a straight-up lie.

A simple google search and the command-f function to search a page will show that 3/6 of the above quotes show up nowhere in "THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA IN COLORADO: THE IMPACT" Volume 7, and the few that do all cite sources to other articles.

For the few sensible people on here who are neutral and are simply interested in this debate, I'd highly encourage you to check this for yourself.

If you are lying about your sources, I wonder what else you are lying about.

Can't wait to hear this excuse.
txags92
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TnAg23 said:

Sparkie said:

TnAg23 said:

Sparkie said:

TnAg23 said:

Again, I don't care about how bad things are in California. They are one of the worst run government entities in the world.

Ask Colorado, Oklahoma, and Alaska how their black market cannabis market is going.
Cigarettes are legal in New York but they are illegally trucked in to avoid the high taxes. Why pay taxes on marijuana when it's cheaper from the black market.

Colorado:

"some Colorado marijuana users would prefer to stay loyal to aa local grower compared to paying the higher dispensary prices."

"I've never seen the black market for marijuana as robust and as expertly cultivated, forgive that pun, as I have right now," said District Attorney George Brauchler, who has been a prosecutor for 25 years."


"The DEA has claimed to see a steady increase in the number of illegal marijuana plants seized since 2014"

From 2013 to 2019, the investigative plant seizures increased from 7,300 to 68,000. Over 900% increase.

"One of the largest busts occurred in the 18th Judicial District where 80,000 plants were seized across 41 homes."

The results supported some of the findings in the Hughes et al. (2019) but also challenged the
notion that medical and recreational marijuana dispensaries had the same impact on crime. The
authors found "street segments with a recreational marijuana dispensary experienced a statistically
significant increase in the level of property crime relative to controls."
Here is the link to the full article that he carefully selected these quotes from.
[url=https://www.cpr.org/2019/06/12/colorados-still-exporting-black-market-cannabis-because-it-makes-tons-of-money-in-other-states/][/url]

Colorados still Exporting Black Market Cannabis because it makes Tons of Money in Other States

It talks about how people in Colorado are exporting cannabis to other states. I have already said several times that most of what is in College Station is coming from the Legal States (Particularly Oklahoma and Colorado).



This article is NOT talking about the people of Colorado buying illegal cannabis because it's cheaper.

Because cannabis is legal in Colorado, and they don't have absurdly high tax rates, It is worth significantly more in Texas than it is in Colorado.

This leads to the incentive of transporting into Texas.

Read the WHOLE article for yourself, and form your own opinion.
Stop making **** up.

The information came from
THE LEGALIZATION OF
MARIJUANA IN COLORADO: THE IMPACT
Volume 7
September 2020
This is a straight-up lie.

A simple google search and the command-f function to search a page will show that 3/6 of the above quotes show up nowhere in "THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA IN COLORADO: THE IMPACT" Volume 7, and the few that do all cite sources to other articles.

For the few sensible people on here who are neutral and are simply interested in this debate, I'd highly encourage you to check this for yourself.

If you are lying about your sources, I wonder what else you are lying about.

Can't wait to hear this excuse.
Nobody cares whether you think it should be legal or not. I don't use the stuff and never have, but I am really ambivalent about whether it is legal or not. The story here is that Leal showed really poor judgement in carrying the stuff around in his car with him in an area where it is currently illegal to possess it. These guys have so much to gain by not carrying pot in the car with them, and they just can't seem to get it through their heads not to do it. How many times have you seen an athlete at A&M busted for sitting in his own apartment with a couple of ounces of weed...never that I can recall. But they get nailed all the time going around smoking it in the car and getting popped by the police. It is just really poor judgement by a kid with alot to lose. The NFL doesn't care at all whether current players are using. But the coaches getting ready to draft kids in the 1st round are looking for any sign that the kid might be a risk to draft that high. Showing this kind of poor judgement in the last few months before the draft is one of those signs they are looking for. Is a player who should be working as hard as he possibly can towards getting drafted instead out driving around with pot in his car where it is illegal to possess it? If he is that dumb, would he be likely to be out partying and smoking the night before a big game? You may think it ought to be legal, but it isn't in Collin County and it was dumb and totally avoidable for Leal to get caught with it.
TnAg23
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txags92 said:

TnAg23 said:

Sparkie said:

TnAg23 said:

Sparkie said:

TnAg23 said:

Again, I don't care about how bad things are in California. They are one of the worst run government entities in the world.

Ask Colorado, Oklahoma, and Alaska how their black market cannabis market is going.
Cigarettes are legal in New York but they are illegally trucked in to avoid the high taxes. Why pay taxes on marijuana when it's cheaper from the black market.

Colorado:

"some Colorado marijuana users would prefer to stay loyal to aa local grower compared to paying the higher dispensary prices."

"I've never seen the black market for marijuana as robust and as expertly cultivated, forgive that pun, as I have right now," said District Attorney George Brauchler, who has been a prosecutor for 25 years."


"The DEA has claimed to see a steady increase in the number of illegal marijuana plants seized since 2014"

From 2013 to 2019, the investigative plant seizures increased from 7,300 to 68,000. Over 900% increase.

"One of the largest busts occurred in the 18th Judicial District where 80,000 plants were seized across 41 homes."

The results supported some of the findings in the Hughes et al. (2019) but also challenged the
notion that medical and recreational marijuana dispensaries had the same impact on crime. The
authors found "street segments with a recreational marijuana dispensary experienced a statistically
significant increase in the level of property crime relative to controls."
Here is the link to the full article that he carefully selected these quotes from.
[url=https://www.cpr.org/2019/06/12/colorados-still-exporting-black-market-cannabis-because-it-makes-tons-of-money-in-other-states/][/url]

Colorados still Exporting Black Market Cannabis because it makes Tons of Money in Other States

It talks about how people in Colorado are exporting cannabis to other states. I have already said several times that most of what is in College Station is coming from the Legal States (Particularly Oklahoma and Colorado).



This article is NOT talking about the people of Colorado buying illegal cannabis because it's cheaper.

Because cannabis is legal in Colorado, and they don't have absurdly high tax rates, It is worth significantly more in Texas than it is in Colorado.

This leads to the incentive of transporting into Texas.

Read the WHOLE article for yourself, and form your own opinion.
Stop making **** up.

The information came from
THE LEGALIZATION OF
MARIJUANA IN COLORADO: THE IMPACT
Volume 7
September 2020
This is a straight-up lie.

A simple google search and the command-f function to search a page will show that 3/6 of the above quotes show up nowhere in "THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA IN COLORADO: THE IMPACT" Volume 7, and the few that do all cite sources to other articles.

For the few sensible people on here who are neutral and are simply interested in this debate, I'd highly encourage you to check this for yourself.

If you are lying about your sources, I wonder what else you are lying about.

Can't wait to hear this excuse.
Nobody cares whether you think it should be legal or not. I don't use the stuff and never have, but I am really ambivalent about whether it is legal or not. The story here is that Leal showed really poor judgement in carrying the stuff around in his car with him in an area where it is currently illegal to possess it. These guys have so much to gain by not carrying pot in the car with them, and they just can't seem to get it through their heads not to do it. How many times have you seen an athlete at A&M busted for sitting in his own apartment with a couple of ounces of weed...never that I can recall. But they get nailed all the time going around smoking it in the car and getting popped by the police. It is just really poor judgement by a kid with alot to lose. The NFL doesn't care at all whether current players are using. But the coaches getting ready to draft kids in the 1st round are looking for any sign that the kid might be a risk to draft that high. Showing this kind of poor judgement in the last few months before the draft is one of those signs they are looking for. Is a player who should be working as hard as he possibly can towards getting drafted instead out driving around with pot in his car where it is illegal to possess it? If he is that dumb, would he be likely to be out partying and smoking the night before a big game? You may think it ought to be legal, but it isn't in Collin County and it was dumb and totally avoidable for Leal to get caught with it.
Listen, I fully agree with you that having it in your car in the few months before the draft is dumb.

For example, I know that I am going to be drug tested in early April, so I won't be indulging in February and March.

With that being said, I do think some of you are overestimating the impact this will have on his draft status. That is my personal opinion, and we only have to wait a couple of months to find out.

The issue I have is people making up lies about the nature of cannabis and demonizing it. Whenever I see that, I will fight it.

Not to change your mind, because just as you don't care what I think, I don't care what you think.

I'm arguing to ensure that the real information is available, and someone with discernment can tell fact from fiction.
Iraq2xVeteran
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This will probably mean a few more questions for DeMarvin Leal at the NFL Scouting Combine.
TnAg23
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And yes, I understand the argument of "You may think it ought to be legal, but it isn't"

Personally, that won't stop me, (again, Hi CSPD and UPD, I'm not in Texas, I'm back home). And doesn't stop most people. Why, well, the same reason I've never been that scared about COVID. For every 1 death of a person under 30, there are 99 people who are borderline symptomless. For every 1 Leal, there are 99 people my age that never get in trouble.

That law has very low compliance, to the level that there is very low enforcement. There are a few unlucky people who do get caught, similarly to how one mother was sentenced to life in prison for having a small moonshine still during prohibition when the vast majority of people got in no trouble.

Oklahoma dispensary prices are less expensive after taxes than College Station street prices. If given the option, me, and everyone I know, would buy it legally. Yes, some portion of the population would insist on buying it illegally, Similarly to how Moonshine survived past prohibition.

But it will die off, just like it did with Alcohol. Eventually, the people of the Smoky Mountains realized that Jack Daniel's tasted better, was safer, and was similarly priced to the local moonshine still off I75. The only places illegal moonshining stayed prominent were in dry counties.

Even now, just about all illegal cannabis in Colorado is leaving the state. It is NOT being sold to Colorado residents because it is cheaper than what is at the dispensary. It is leaving the state and coming east, to quintuple profits. If cannabis were universally legal, this would be pointless.

It'll be legal within 10 years regardless. Personally, I think it'll be a Republican that gets the law passed.

rootube
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I care. This may come as a shock to you but this will not be the last young person arrested for possession and it's an utter waste of time resources and money. So it's probably about time to stop doing it.
rshackelford
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94chem said:

rshackelford said:

Lame. Victimless "crime" for something that shouldn't even be illegal. Let that man go.
How can it take 8 posts before someone chimed in on what they want the law to be instead of what it actually is? You guys are losing your edge.

I wish the law allowed me to skim $10 from each of your bank accounts. In fact, that's how it should be! None of you would even miss the money, and it's not fair that I could get in trouble! I want it to be that way! I want it now!


Aren't you just a Boy Scout
94chem
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rshackelford said:

94chem said:

rshackelford said:

Lame. Victimless "crime" for something that shouldn't even be illegal. Let that man go.
How can it take 8 posts before someone chimed in on what they want the law to be instead of what it actually is? You guys are losing your edge.

I wish the law allowed me to skim $10 from each of your bank accounts. In fact, that's how it should be! None of you would even miss the money, and it's not fair that I could get in trouble! I want it to be that way! I want it now!


Aren't you just a Boy Scout
Irrelevant comment's lack of relevance exceeds initial comment's lack of relevance. Congratulations.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
Panama Red
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Speaking of irrelevant comments.

Quote:

I wish the law allowed me to skim $10 from each of your bank accounts. In fact, that's how it should be! None of you would even miss the money, and it's not fair that I could get in trouble! I want it to be that way! I want it now!
94chem
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Panama Red said:

Speaking of irrelevant comments.

Quote:

I wish the law allowed me to skim $10 from each of your bank accounts. In fact, that's how it should be! None of you would even miss the money, and it's not fair that I could get in trouble! I want it to be that way! I want it now!

Why? Don't you have wishes too? Isn't this the thread where we talk about our wishes? The things we wish were legal? The things we wish were different? The things we wish didn't get punished? Why, don't you know - wishing for things is how the world is changed!
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
Panama Red
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Its a thread about a player arrested, and what potentially will happen to him. So an opinion on that nothing should happen is relevant. Would you have self-righteously chimed in if Leal had been arrested for jay walking and another poster said it was a victimless crime? Sorry the weed fairy touched your pee-pee hole. Go whine about people discussing the topic elsewhere.
nu awlins ag
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The same old argument, "It's just weed. Legalize it." How many that say this smoke it regularly and have real jobs? The crap is illegal. Smoke and face the risks associated with it. No different than drinking underage. All fun and games until you get caught then it becomes a "stupid law". Don't feel sorry for him one bit…..
Gig em G
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nu awlins ag said:

The same old argument, "It's just weed. Legalize it." How many that say this smoke it regularly and have real jobs?


….um, A LOT of people. Way more than you would ever think.
txags92
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Gig em G said:

nu awlins ag said:

The same old argument, "It's just weed. Legalize it." How many that say this smoke it regularly and have real jobs?


….um, A LOT of people. Way more than you would ever think.
Depends on what he means by "regularly". I know a plenty of people who smoke it every now and then for recreation. They are almost all in real, well-paying jobs and do their jobs well. I don't know anybody who smokes it daily or multiple times a week that isn't sub-par at their job or hasn't had trouble hanging on to good jobs or good relationships.
txags92
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TnAg23 said:

And yes, I understand the argument of "You may think it ought to be legal, but it isn't"

Personally, that won't stop me, (again, Hi CSPD and UPD, I'm not in Texas, I'm back home). And doesn't stop most people. Why, well, the same reason I've never been that scared about COVID. For every 1 death of a person under 30, there are 99 people who are borderline symptomless. For every 1 Leal, there are 99 people my age that never get in trouble.


For every couple million people your age, there are about 2-3 with a chance to get drafted in the first round of the NFL draft. The other couple million don't stand to lose a million or more dollars by sliding from the top of the first round to the bottom of the first round or from the first round to the 2nd round. For most people getting caught with a minor amount is like getting a speeding ticket. Leal has a lot more riding on what he does and how hard he works over the next few months than nearly everybody else his age. Again, not saying it should or shouldn't be illegal...just that he (and others in his position) should have better judgement than that given what he has to gain by doing so.
txags92
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rootube said:

I care. This may come as a shock to you but this will not be the last young person arrested for possession and it's an utter waste of time resources and money. So it's probably about time to stop doing it.
Nothing about poor decisions by people who smoke pot would ever shock me. I didn't like that the drinking age went from 18 to 21 a few years before I turned 18. I drank plenty when I was 18-20 years old and I spent a lot of time complaining about the drinking age too. I made plenty of dumb decisions regarding alcohol when I was young too. But I never had a draft position at risk when I made those decisions. Again, I don't care if we make it legal. I am not here to tell you or anybody else that it should be illegal. I just think people with a lot at stake (like potential future 1st round draft picks) should make better decisions when it comes to choosing to do things that are currently illegal.
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72jag said:

It's apparent you people are ignorant of the medical facts that prove marijuana leads to addiction, brain damage, and family violence. You are clueless and medically ignorant.
Did marijuana murder your father and rape your mother? This is laughably misinformed and ignorant.

Since you are so sure of yourself, do you have facts backing up the addiction and brain damage statements? And family violence? That's a new one!

You are just closed minded and refuse to change your way of thinking. Weed is illegal and should stay that way forever despite all the medical benefits and studies showing it is much less harmful on individuals and society than alcohol.

Just look at Colorado if you need proof. No uptick in brain damage, addiction issues, nor family violence.
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The fact weed is still illegal in tessus IS the crime!

nu awlins ag
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Gig em G said:

nu awlins ag said:

The same old argument, "It's just weed. Legalize it." How many that say this smoke it regularly and have real jobs?


….um, A LOT of people. Way more than you would ever think.


Walmart and Kroger don't count. Engineering firms , accounting firms etc. They all have drug testing. I doubt any of these people smoke regularly or even occasionally.
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Hank Mardukas
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nu awlins ag said:

Gig em G said:

nu awlins ag said:

The same old argument, "It's just weed. Legalize it." How many that say this smoke it regularly and have real jobs?


….um, A LOT of people. Way more than you would ever think.


Walmart and Kroger don't count. Engineering firms , accounting firms etc. They all have drug testing. I doubt any of these people smoke regularly or even occasionally.
No, they don't all have drug testing. It's incredibly common for people to enjoy marijuana in their off time. I've seen Dentists, Lawyers, Engineers, and Financial professionals partake, just to name a few professions... and they are all really good at their jobs.
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FCBlitz said:

Imagine all you need to do is keep your nose clean, work out and stay in shape and you will get paid enough money for your next 2 or 3 generations of your family.

I could drink water and eat dry plain white bread and a single slice of Turkey for a year if I had to get that type of payday.

No sympathy.


His draft stock will not change even one spot because of weed. The NFL couldn't care less.
BJM1781
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Lots of companies are now ignoring THC on drug tests, since it happens to be legal in half the nation. Especially the case in the tech sector.
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Hank Mardukas said:

nu awlins ag said:

Gig em G said:

nu awlins ag said:

The same old argument, "It's just weed. Legalize it." How many that say this smoke it regularly and have real jobs?


….um, A LOT of people. Way more than you would ever think.


Walmart and Kroger don't count. Engineering firms , accounting firms etc. They all have drug testing. I doubt any of these people smoke regularly or even occasionally.
No, they don't all have drug testing. It's incredibly common for people to enjoy marijuana in their off time. I've seen Dentists, Lawyers, Engineers, and Financial professionals partake, just to name a few professions... and they are all really good at their jobs.



I am always amazed at how many people out there don't realize how many people out there smoke weed. Makes me laugh every time.


BJM1781
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Especially on TexAgs! It always amazes me how sheltered some folks are.

There are people here who think 'weed' is only smoked in dirty, rundown houses with groups of hardcore 'pot addicts' apparently.

If you do use, you'll clearly ruin your life and beat your wife and children.
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BJM1781 said:

Especially on TexAgs! It always amazes me how sheltered some folks are.

There are people here who think 'weed' is only smoked in dirty, rundown houses with groups of hardcore 'pot addicts' apparently.

If you do use, you'll clearly ruin your life and beat your wife and children.
Marijuana is not cheap and, while I'll admit to having led a "sheltered" life, I have seen several of my son's friends repeatedly blow money on pot that they needed, NEEDED, for bills and even their own children's expenses.
Nevertheless, if we can lower the cost of pot and hurt the cartels by issuing pot growing licenses for people to grow it in their own homes, I would be for that.
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Rongagin71 said:

BJM1781 said:

Especially on TexAgs! It always amazes me how sheltered some folks are.

There are people here who think 'weed' is only smoked in dirty, rundown houses with groups of hardcore 'pot addicts' apparently.

If you do use, you'll clearly ruin your life and beat your wife and children.
Marijuana is not cheap and, while I'll admit to having led a "sheltered" life, I have seen several of my son's friends repeatedly blow money on pot that they needed, NEEDED, for bills and even their own children's expenses.
Nevertheless, if we can lower the cost of pot and hurt the cartels by issuing pot growing licenses for people to grow it in their own homes, I would be for that.
You don't get to decide how other people spend their money. I think buying fancy foreign cars is a dumb waste of money. If you like them, good for you. I can't stop you.

Also, relatively speaking, cannabis is cheaper than an equivalent amount of fancy drinks at bars.

5 Mixed Drinks would get me about as intoxicated as smoking 2 gs.
2 gs costs about $20 in places where Cannabis is illegal (Less if it's legal). 5 Old fashions would cost me $60 on Northgate.
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TnAg23 said:

Rongagin71 said:

BJM1781 said:

Especially on TexAgs! It always amazes me how sheltered some folks are.

There are people here who think 'weed' is only smoked in dirty, rundown houses with groups of hardcore 'pot addicts' apparently.

If you do use, you'll clearly ruin your life and beat your wife and children.
Marijuana is not cheap and, while I'll admit to having led a "sheltered" life, I have seen several of my son's friends repeatedly blow money on pot that they needed, NEEDED, for bills and even their own children's expenses.
Nevertheless, if we can lower the cost of pot and hurt the cartels by issuing pot growing licenses for people to grow it in their own homes, I would be for that.
You don't get to decide how other people spend their money. I think buying fancy foreign cars is a dumb waste of money. If you like them, good for you. I can't stop you.

Also, relatively speaking, cannabis is cheaper than an equivalent amount of fancy drinks at bars.

5 Mixed Drinks would get me about as intoxicated as smoking 2 gs.
2 gs costs about $20 in places where Cannabis is illegal (Less if it's legal). 5 Old fashions would cost me $60 on Northgate.

Your economic argument is terrible. How much is 5 old fashions at home? Probably well less than $20 unless you are buying top shelf whiskey. You are paying for service and the atmosphere. If bars were opened just to facilitate smoking, the weed would undoubtedly be more expensive. Now I agree with your argument concerning deciding how people spend their money.

The issue that I have is that under our current laws and the rules of football, marijuana is illegal and against the rules. Why on earth would someone risk millions for weed? I can't understand that.
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Old Fashioneds and a g of the good stuff. I like your style.
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It's pretty easy to see the generational divide on threads like this. Older posters skew more toward "weed is illegal and leads users down a slippery slope toward harder drug use. Regular users are not able to be successful professionals" while younger posters skew toward "it's silly for this to be illegal at this point. Majority of people, regardless of success level, use at least recreationally with no Ill-effects".

The two groups are not going to change the others' minds, so this is just a silly exercise in who can provide the more shocking story to try and "wow" the other.

But, in the spirit of this thread, allow me to opine: the majority of my classmates in medical school currently smoke weed at least semi-regularly, and we have still managed to pass our class/board exams, have performed well in clinical rotations, and are currently interviewing for all levels of residency programs. This was also true of the class ahead of us, which boasted a 98% placement rate in residency programs, including highly competitive specialties such as neurosurgery, orthopedic surgery, ophthalmology, and dermatology. To state that marijuana use is exclusive to unsuccessful burnouts is an antiquated and inaccurate view, at best. And that doesn't even get into the political and racial origins of the current drug laws in this country. And I'm generally conservative with my political views.

Now, carry on yelling at each other.
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BJM1781 said:

Especially on TexAgs! It always amazes me how sheltered some folks are.

There are people here who think 'weed' is only smoked in dirty, rundown houses with groups of hardcore 'pot addicts' apparently.

If you do use, you'll clearly ruin your life and beat your wife and children.
This.

To All the people on here saying people who smoke don't have jobs, you couldn't be more wrong.

The stereotype of what a 'stoner' looks like is a myth.

Tons of Engineers smoke.
Over 75% Of Computer Scientists smoke.
Doctors are prescribing cannabis to whoever wants it in about 25 states.
The world of business executives is full of Real hard drugs.

If you knew how many people in your life used cannabis, you'd realize how harmless and helpful it is.

Your elderly mother, the college kid who sings worship music at your church, your coworkers, your Republican Texas House Representative, and your kids, who have a 4.4 GPA while taking all AP classes.

Cannabis use is way more widespread than some of y'all realize. It's helping people all around you.
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cevans_40 said:

TnAg23 said:

Rongagin71 said:

BJM1781 said:

Especially on TexAgs! It always amazes me how sheltered some folks are.

There are people here who think 'weed' is only smoked in dirty, rundown houses with groups of hardcore 'pot addicts' apparently.

If you do use, you'll clearly ruin your life and beat your wife and children.
Marijuana is not cheap and, while I'll admit to having led a "sheltered" life, I have seen several of my son's friends repeatedly blow money on pot that they needed, NEEDED, for bills and even their own children's expenses.
Nevertheless, if we can lower the cost of pot and hurt the cartels by issuing pot growing licenses for people to grow it in their own homes, I would be for that.
You don't get to decide how other people spend their money. I think buying fancy foreign cars is a dumb waste of money. If you like them, good for you. I can't stop you.

Also, relatively speaking, cannabis is cheaper than an equivalent amount of fancy drinks at bars.

5 Mixed Drinks would get me about as intoxicated as smoking 2 gs.
2 gs costs about $20 in places where Cannabis is illegal (Less if it's legal). 5 Old fashions would cost me $60 on Northgate.

Your economic argument is terrible. How much is 5 old fashions at home? Probably well less than $20 unless you are buying top shelf whiskey. You are paying for service and the atmosphere. If bars were opened just to facilitate smoking, the weed would undoubtedly be more expensive. Now I agree with your argument concerning deciding how people spend their money.

The issue that I have is that under our current laws and the rules of football, marijuana is illegal and against the rules. Why on earth would someone risk millions for weed? I can't understand that.
My point was that some people are dumb with their money. You can be dumb with cars, dumb with alcohol, or dumb with cannabis. It isn't BMW's fault. It isn't Maker's Mark's fault, and it isn't cannabis's fault.

Also, let's change the example to cheap beers. If I had to guess, it'd take 6-7 Natural Lights to get me as intoxicated as a 1 gram cigarette. The beers cost a dollar each. The gram cost $10, (Again, much less if it's legal)

I know that Old fashions at Northgate were an extreme example. But Cannabis is relatively cheap unless you are smoking a ridiculous amount (which is bad, because too much of anything is bad, including alcohol, sugar, and caffeine)
 
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