Gunny456 said:

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I had a family member killed 5 years ago from a dude driving while under the influence of weed. BS … as long as it is a law.. don't break it or pay the consequences.

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Sorry to hear that, hope they locked him up and threw away the key if driver survived. But it is illegal to drive intoxicated, regardless of whether the drink or drug is legal to use.

Gunny456 said:

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I had a family member killed 5 years ago from a dude driving while under the influence of weed. BS … as long as it is a law.. don't break it or pay the consequences.

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That is awful. I'm sorry to hear that. That driver was an irresponsible, careless, selfish idiot.

Ever heard of a DWI? There are thousands of cases of that happening while people have been drinking alcohol.

While that is terrible, we don't blame those people's idiocy on alcohol. We acknowledge they are irresponsible, careless, selfish idiots and punish them severely.

Nobody has an issue with responsible alcohol consumption. 5 beers lead to far more impairment than a couple of Gs.

Also, possession is a class B, while a first-time DUI is a class C (less severe). Sit on that fact for a second.

Also, Gunnery Sergeant, more of your corps boys indulge than anyone else on campus. They are smart and know when they will be drug tested. I know of someone in the Brigades that once got away with using one of their buddy's urine and keeping it warm with a hand warmer.

LatinAggie1997 said:

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BattleGrackle said:

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Wrong. the discussion was not about crime, but the consequences of weed. So I compared it to the consequences of alcohol.

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72jag said:

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It's apparent you people are ignorant of the medical facts that prove marijuana leads to addiction, brain damage, and family violence. You are clueless and medically ignorant.

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How about alcohol?

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Yeah, you chose not to go back far enough.

rshackelford said:

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Lame. Victimless "crime" for something that shouldn't even be illegal. Let that man go.

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Nope. I responded to the exact person I wanted to. I never said it was victimless. Nice try

Well, college football analysts always said Leal was a "high" draft pick. Status confirmed.

13B said:

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Want to know how I know you know nothing about the drug trade? Victimless my a$$.

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Idiot.

Gunny456 said:

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I had a family member killed 5 years ago from a dude driving while under the influence of weed. BS … as long as it is a law.. don't break it or pay the consequences.

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So sorry for your loss. Driving under the influence is already a crime, and it will remain a crime even after our misguided prohibitionist laws are overturned. The effects of prohibition have been infinitely more damaging than cannabis itself is.

Stupid@17 said:

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Might have been targeted to him...that could **** up his draft stock.

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Won't have the tiniest amount of impact to his draft stock.

TxAG#2011 said:

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Can't imagine what kind of ***** actually arrested him

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What I mean is that there are people that have really good stuff from Mexico. You just don't know any of them.

LatinAggie1997 said:

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13B said:

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Want to know how I know you know nothing about the drug trade? Victimless my a$$.

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This. So much this.

Go live where I have and see what the process of getting this victimless drug to the customer involvesand the harm it can do.

It isn't just about the end user. Grow your own and then it might be victimless.

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100% this. Legalize it and street gangs, shady characters and massive drug cartels lose money. Juarez, Mexico is a great example of how a city of over 1 million people gets effed up by such "victimless crimes" due to the cartels running the show with billions of American dollars flowing into their pockets.

It's legal in several states now and nobody's reported it messing things up.

LatinAggie1997 said:

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What I mean is that there are people that have really good stuff from Mexico. You just don't know any of them.

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Maybe so, but most of what crosses the border is bulk outdoor-grown crap full of seeds and stems and is less than 20% THC. Why? Because if you are going to cross the border and risk everything, your going to do it with pounds, not ounces.

The Agly Duckling said:

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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13B said:

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Want to know how I know you know nothing about the drug trade? Victimless my a$$.

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This. So much this.

Go live where I have and see what the process of getting this victimless drug to the customer involvesand the harm it can do.

It isn't just about the end user. Grow your own and then it might be victimless.

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100% this. Legalize it and street gangs, shady characters and massive drug cartels lose money. Juarez, Mexico is a great example of how a city of over 1 million people gets effed up by such "victimless crimes" due to the cartels running the show with billions of American dollars flowing into their pockets.

It's legal in several states now and nobody's reported it messing things up.

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So again, the victims aren't people who use cannabis, they are the dealers, smugglers, mules, and cartel members. I think I have a pretty good idea of how we could get rid of those people.

The Agly Duckling said:

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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13B said:

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Want to know how I know you know nothing about the drug trade? Victimless my a$$.

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This. So much this.

Go live where I have and see what the process of getting this victimless drug to the customer involvesand the harm it can do.

It isn't just about the end user. Grow your own and then it might be victimless.

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100% this. Legalize it and street gangs, shady characters and massive drug cartels lose money. Juarez, Mexico is a great example of how a city of over 1 million people gets effed up by such "victimless crimes" due to the cartels running the show with billions of American dollars flowing into their pockets.

It's legal in several states now and nobody's reported it messing things up.

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Except the people who are selling it legally.

The Agly Duckling said:

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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13B said:

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Want to know how I know you know nothing about the drug trade? Victimless my a$$.

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This. So much this.

Go live where I have and see what the process of getting this victimless drug to the customer involvesand the harm it can do.

It isn't just about the end user. Grow your own and then it might be victimless.

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100% this. Legalize it and street gangs, shady characters and massive drug cartels lose money. Juarez, Mexico is a great example of how a city of over 1 million people gets effed up by such "victimless crimes" due to the cartels running the show with billions of American dollars flowing into their pockets.

It's legal in several states now and nobody's reported it messing things up.

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There will always be a market for unregulated / cheaper pot. Illegal pot growsers (gangs and cartels) have flooded California. Legalizing pot made the situation worse.

"There's more black-market marijuana than ever before, much more than prior to Prop. 64," said William Bodner, special agent in charge of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's Los Angeles field division."

Yeah, I know the deal but again...it is who you know.

I grew up in Pasadena and DH so I know lots of people that are or were in the trade with deep contacts down south (deep south). Some are out of prison, some are still there, others are deceased (not naturalcauses) , and some keep doing what they do.

That was always the concern with legalizing it here in Texas. There are ways to make it work but it isn't ideal nor is it sound PR.

Again, I don't care about how bad things are in California. They are one of the worst run government entities in the world.

Ask Colorado, Oklahoma, and Alaska how their black market cannabis market is going.

Should have stuck with Delta 8. It's not that hard, folks.

moldaggie said:

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CS police again? Swear there is a mole in that dept.

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Leal was the cause of his own arrest! College Station PD was doing their job.

The War on Drugs...ruins more lives than the drugs.

It was in Collin County, dude.

I'm a cop in a state where weed is fully legal and can't imagine arresting anyone for carrying bud. No reason at all for weed to be illegal. None.

Buzzkill said:

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I'm a cop in a state where weed is fully legal and can't imagine arresting anyone for carrying bud. No reason at all for weed to be illegal. None.

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ding ding ding. Agreed as an MD.

State Trooper got him. You knew they weren't gonna let him walk.

Buzzkill said:

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I'm a cop in a state where weed is fully legal and can't imagine arresting anyone for carrying bud. No reason at all for weed to be illegal. None.

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Username does not check out?

I'm off on a tangent but wish players that opt out of bowls would just say, "I am not playing because I don't want to get hurt or affect my draft status."

Don't give me this BS about "I am preparing for the draft." When in reality they are sitting on the couch or hanging with their buddies.

Training for the combine is not the same as preparing for a game. They're going to have down time with buddies.

LatinAggie1997 said:

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TnAg23 said:

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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13B said:

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Want to know how I know you know nothing about the drug trade? Victimless my a$$.

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This. So much this.

Go live where I have and see what the process of getting this victimless drug to the customer involvesand the harm it can do.

It isn't just about the end user. Grow your own and then it might be victimless.

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So what you're telling me is the victims aren't the users, they are the dealers, mules, and smugglers, and that it'd be significantly safer for everyone involved if it were legalized, taxed, and regulated?

Interesting take.

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Not exactly.
There are many victims from the drug trade. For someone to say using Marijuana is a victimless crime is extremely ignorant and dismissive.
People (and families) get arrested, killed, tortured, and robbed, from the growth, transportation, distribution, and consumption of Marijuana.

Yes, it would be better if the US legalized it, grew it, and distributed it, when comparing the two scenarios.

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Lol now you're coming around.

Wont hurt his draft stock a single iota. NFL doesnt really care about weed that much anymore

13B said:

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Want to know how I know you know nothing about the drug trade? Victimless my a$$.

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It was weed. Likely grown within 100 miles of here. We aren't talking about a kilo of cocaine or meth

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Wow this post blew up. Glad to have started a healthy debate. For the record. Haven't touched any cannabis related products in well over a decade. My job does random tests. Not worth putting my family's financial security at risk. That being said, all of you dudly-do-rights watch too many documentaries. Can people become addicted to cannabis? Sure. Mildly. Not nearly as bad as they can get addicted to prescription medication, nicotine, sugar, alcohol, and basically everything else citizens of this great nation enjoy in excess as regular comforts of life. But go ahead. Rewatch "Reefer Maddness" and tell me how dangerous people are on the pot

war_grackle said:

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Good Evening.

Marijuana is illegal. Someone who smokes marijuana is breaking the law. A person with no regard for smaller laws like marijuana prohibition clearly has no respect for the institution of government and as such there is nothing stopping this person from committing greater crimes such as theft, battery, and murder. Moreover, marijuana degenerates this person's mind to the point where they are unaware of their actions, thereby rendering them even more susceptible to carrying out these greater crimes. It's best to eliminate these threats before they arise and keep marijuana illegal.

I don't want this post to turn into a debate between sober responsible adults and embittered drug addicted degenerates seeking to justify their horrible life decisions. If you are commenting for the latter reason I recommend taking your frustrations out on an adult coloring book or a hacky sack while the rest of us continue to maintain that the best thing for society as a whole is to keep you off the streets and away from view.

Thank you, and let's keep marijuana illegal.

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I was so close to biting on this one. Well done sir

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moldaggie said:

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CS police again? Swear there is a mole in that dept.

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Leal was the cause of his own arrest! College Station PD was doing their job.

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Maybe you didn't ready my other posts. Look at the arrests in other college towns with football players. We are the outlier. You aren't concerned with that? He might have been arrested by another agency. Thst said, the numbers are still there with CS police..

TnAg23 said:

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Again, I don't care about how bad things are in California. They are one of the worst run government entities in the world.

Ask Colorado, Oklahoma, and Alaska how their black market cannabis market is going.

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Cigarettes are legal in New York but they are illegally trucked in to avoid the high taxes. Why pay taxes on marijuana when it's cheaper from the black market.

Colorado:

"some Colorado marijuana users would prefer to stay loyal to aa local grower compared to paying the higher dispensary prices."

"I've never seen the black market for marijuana as robust and as expertly cultivated, forgive that pun, as I have right now," said District Attorney George Brauchler, who has been a prosecutor for 25 years."


"The DEA has claimed to see a steady increase in the number of illegal marijuana plants seized since 2014"

From 2013 to 2019, the investigative plant seizures increased from 7,300 to 68,000. Over 900% increase.

"One of the largest busts occurred in the 18th Judicial District where 80,000 plants were seized across 41 homes."

The results supported some of the findings in the Hughes et al. (2019) but also challenged the
notion that medical and recreational marijuana dispensaries had the same impact on crime. The
authors found "street segments with a recreational marijuana dispensary experienced a statistically
significant increase in the level of property crime relative to controls."

Sparkie said:

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TnAg23 said:

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Again, I don't care about how bad things are in California. They are one of the worst run government entities in the world.

Ask Colorado, Oklahoma, and Alaska how their black market cannabis market is going.

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Cigarettes are legal in New York but they are illegally trucked in to avoid the high taxes. Why pay taxes on marijuana when it's cheaper from the black market.

Colorado:

"some Colorado marijuana users would prefer to stay loyal to aa local grower compared to paying the higher dispensary prices."

"I've never seen the black market for marijuana as robust and as expertly cultivated, forgive that pun, as I have right now," said District Attorney George Brauchler, who has been a prosecutor for 25 years."


"The DEA has claimed to see a steady increase in the number of illegal marijuana plants seized since 2014"

From 2013 to 2019, the investigative plant seizures increased from 7,300 to 68,000. Over 900% increase.

"One of the largest busts occurred in the 18th Judicial District where 80,000 plants were seized across 41 homes."

The results supported some of the findings in the Hughes et al. (2019) but also challenged the
notion that medical and recreational marijuana dispensaries had the same impact on crime. The
authors found "street segments with a recreational marijuana dispensary experienced a statistically
significant increase in the level of property crime relative to controls."

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Here is the link to the full article that he carefully selected these quotes from.
[url=https://www.cpr.org/2019/06/12/colorados-still-exporting-black-market-cannabis-because-it-makes-tons-of-money-in-other-states/][/url]

Colorados still Exporting Black Market Cannabis because it makes Tons of Money in Other States

It talks about how people in Colorado are exporting cannabis to other states. I have already said several times that most of what is in College Station is coming from the Legal States (Particularly Oklahoma and Colorado).



This article is NOT talking about the people of Colorado buying illegal cannabis because it's cheaper.

Because cannabis is legal in Colorado, and they don't have absurdly high tax rates, It is worth significantly more in Texas than it is in Colorado.

This leads to the incentive of transporting into Texas.

Read the WHOLE article for yourself, and form your own opinion.

History repeats itself. There is no doubt that legalizing cannabis would save lives in the long run by ending prohibition-style cartel sales.

I encourage everyone to watch this video on the prohibition of alcohol. It is very entertaining.



If you agree with me, this video will educate you on the historical president for our next steps.
If you disagree, it will help you examine better arguments against me than the crap you are currently spewing.
If you are neutral and want to be informed, watch and decide for yourself.