The fact that Sankey seems so willing to throw this time honored agreement to the wind so that he can redefine college football pisses me off.

So after the Brent Z article all of these beat writers have some "inside sources" that these conversations have been taking place for 6+ months and nobody mentioned anything till the Houston Chronicle broke the news this week? Not buying it at all !

Story breaks, reporters start questioning their sources and with the news out sources more willing to talk about what they know. Not really surprising, since the reporters did not know to ask the question before.

Yep, Sankey is a slim ball. Admittance by no admittance. Finebaum interview with him yesterday. Time to go after Sankey...

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Yeah it was behind our backs but no way it went on that long. A couple of months at most.

But I think this was sankey, whorns, ou, and espn, and lots of sec schools were left out.

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If ESPN is involved then A&M would have a slam dunk case for tortuous interference and would own ESPN, and Disney

There's no better drama for some sports media types than when tu is sucking and trying to make itself seem relevant.

Jbob04 said:

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Looch said the ACC reached out to both tu and ou first about joining them but tu and ou then decided to reach out to the SEC instead.

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...And Sankey happily went along with it behind out backs.

Jbob04 said:

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Looch said the ACC reached out to both tu and ou first about joining them but tu and ou then decided to reach out to the SEC instead.

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Well espn owns both acc and sec, so maybe enough sec schools put up a stink and let the whorns and methheads go there. Plus, they can take kansas and wvu to make it an even number and send nd back to full time indy status.

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If ESPN is involved then A&M would have a slam dunk case for tortuous interference and would own ESPN, and Disney

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I doubt we'd have the stones to do that but we might be smart enough to let baylor and the big12 crew do it again to slow it down.

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Dominion Caracas Branch said:

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Yeah it was behind our backs but no way it went on that long. A couple of months at most.

But I think this was sankey, whorns, ou, and espn, and lots of sec schools were left out.

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If ESPN is involved then A&M would have a slam dunk case for tortuous interference and would own ESPN, and Disney

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Let's hope there's some FOIA emails out there on accident.

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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Dominion Caracas Branch said:

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Yeah it was behind our backs but no way it went on that long. A couple of months at most.

But I think this was sankey, whorns, ou, and espn, and lots of sec schools were left out.

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If ESPN is involved then A&M would have a slam dunk case for tortuous interference and would own ESPN, and Disney

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Let's hope there's some FOIA emails out there on accident.

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And get ****ed on media rights unfortunately. The mouse is gonna win out in the end by getting the rest of the teams to play ball

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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Dominion Caracas Branch said:

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Yeah it was behind our backs but no way it went on that long. A couple of months at most.

But I think this was sankey, whorns, ou, and espn, and lots of sec schools were left out.

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If ESPN is involved then A&M would have a slam dunk case for tortuous interference and would own ESPN, and Disney

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Let's hope there's some FOIA emails out there on accident.

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A&M isn't going to do anything that crazy. They're going to announce that they are very much opposed and other schools who for decades enjoyed the handshake agreement (UF, USCe, UGA) will join in accepting tu/OU because it further ensures they stay protected and we'll just have to deal with it.

Also - I wouldn't be surprised if some of the conversations happened with the help of Scott Woodward. They just finished the home&home last year with tu...he of all people would know A&M needed to be shut out of the discussions. They could have easily began talks last year with the sips through the connection of that series and back-channeled to the SEC offices.

And if the pods that were already being floated were correct, it gets LSU away from Bama every year.

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Yep, Sankey is a slim ball. Admittance by no admittance. Finebaum interview with him yesterday. Time to go after Sankey...

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Dude thinks he can get a chuckle and some "relatable" points by talking about how he doesn't know how to pay his water bill? How did we go so long without knowing this guy is an asshat?

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So after the Brent Z article all of these beat writers have some "inside sources" that these conversations have been taking place for 6+ months and nobody mentioned anything till the Houston Chronicle broke the news this week? Not buying it at all !

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The tu pundits I listened to discussing this said tu folks were told to "sit" on this. They blamed friendly A&M media for leaking it to try to ruin their deal. They know they have the 11 votes.

Not sure who thought is was a good idea to put a yankee in charge of the SEC.

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Vinny said:

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So after the Brent Z article all of these beat writers have some "inside sources" that these conversations have been taking place for 6+ months and nobody mentioned anything till the Houston Chronicle broke the news this week? Not buying it at all !

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The tu pundits I listened to discussing this said tu folks were told to "sit" on this. They blamed friendly A&M media for leaking it to try to ruin their deal. They know they have the 11 votes.

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Yea, they all knew about a potential earth-shattering college football story and chose not to get a ton of views and clicks. Sureeeeeeeee

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redjalapeno-87 said:

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Vinny said:

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So after the Brent Z article all of these beat writers have some "inside sources" that these conversations have been taking place for 6+ months and nobody mentioned anything till the Houston Chronicle broke the news this week? Not buying it at all !

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The tu pundits I listened to discussing this said tu folks were told to "sit" on this. They blamed friendly A&M media for leaking it to try to ruin their deal. They know they have the 11 votes.

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Yea, they all knew about a potential earth-shattering college football story and chose not to get a ton of views and clicks. Sureeeeeeeee

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Agree that part is bull***** I think the moment the cat was out of the bag all the beat writers went asking and all the sudden their sources were more ok with speaking on the record....the end part though I suspect is right...they were willing to then speak on the record because they have 11 votes.

I smell BS. There is no way anyone from tu would sit on something like this for that long. Their need for attention is to great.

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If Sankey was in negotiations with UT and OU for six months and left us in the dark, he should be fired. If this is true, the SEC culture has been revealed to be a lie.

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LOL. The SEC has protected and promoted Alabama over all schools for the last 15 years during Saban's dominance. They always get the most favorable schedule breakout. The SEC culture is better than that of a conference that was started/created with Texas at the center, so it won't ever be as bad w/ the sips as it was in the Big12 or SWC...but let's not act like this has been some equal share equal voice conference we've joined the last 10 years.

From ESPN:

An SEC source told Heather Dinich that it's inaccurate that A&M was left out of the conversation.

I wouldn't be surprise if this is just TU or the Austin newspaper trying to troll A&M that they had no idea.

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redjalapeno-87 said:

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Vinny said:

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So after the Brent Z article all of these beat writers have some "inside sources" that these conversations have been taking place for 6+ months and nobody mentioned anything till the Houston Chronicle broke the news this week? Not buying it at all !

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The tu pundits I listened to discussing this said tu folks were told to "sit" on this. They blamed friendly A&M media for leaking it to try to ruin their deal. They know they have the 11 votes.

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Yea, they all knew about a potential earth-shattering college football story and chose not to get a ton of views and clicks. Sureeeeeeeee

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they knew early July from what was stated. Be naive if you desire. Look at the facts as they are.

Sports-Ag said:

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From ESPN:

An SEC source told Heather Dinich that it's inaccurate that A&M was left out of the conversation.

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Sure. A&M then leaks when the desperate sip attempt to join the SEC falls short.

Sports-Ag said:

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From ESPN:

An SEC source told Heather Dinich that it's inaccurate that A&M was left out of the conversation.

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Who, who issued the code red?

Maybe Looch was right in saying the leak came from the Ags. They exposed the situation that TU was trying to hide.

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From ESPN:

An SEC source told Heather Dinich that it's inaccurate that A&M was left out of the conversation.

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You'd have to think this was the case. You want to talk about permanently poisoning the well if you are the SEC. Not telling all your members about an expansion move is LHN level insidiousness

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hunter2012 said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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Dominion Caracas Branch said:

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Yeah it was behind our backs but no way it went on that long. A couple of months at most.

But I think this was sankey, whorns, ou, and espn, and lots of sec schools were left out.

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If ESPN is involved then A&M would have a slam dunk case for tortuous interference and would own ESPN, and Disney

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Let's hope there's some FOIA emails out there on accident.

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And get ****ed on media rights unfortunately. The mouse is gonna win out in the end by getting the rest of the teams to play ball

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They can't do sh*t to us so long as we're in the SEC, besides this move clearly indicates that money is everything to the other SEC school and ESPN so we should act accordingly. They burned the high road by backstabbing us. Take the gloves off and make it hurt. Worst they can do is bury us in a 11 am game or lobby the committee to exclude us from the playoff which they do anyway. *****ESPN, the SEC schools, and the SEC offices, we thought we were safe but we're only correct in thinking that we're the only ones with our own self interest in mind. SEC made that extremely clear.

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rgag12 said:

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redjalapeno-87 said:

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Vinny said:

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So after the Brent Z article all of these beat writers have some "inside sources" that these conversations have been taking place for 6+ months and nobody mentioned anything till the Houston Chronicle broke the news this week? Not buying it at all !

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The tu pundits I listened to discussing this said tu folks were told to "sit" on this. They blamed friendly A&M media for leaking it to try to ruin their deal. They know they have the 11 votes.

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Yea, they all knew about a potential earth-shattering college football story and chose not to get a ton of views and clicks. Sureeeeeeeee

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they knew early July from what was stated. Be naive if you desire. Look at the facts as they are.

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I think it's "naive" to believe sip beat writers and to believe all the stuff out there on twitter are facts.

If this had real legs I would assume we would already be hearing from TX and OK legislatures trying to protect Baylor, Tech, and OK State...

I'll take the above statement back after reading UT and OU did not attend a Big 12 leage conferance call yesterday... per ESPN

There's not much that can be done about it honestly. Sure they will ***** and moan about it but it can't be stopped from a political standpoint.

fulshearAg96 said:

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If this had real legs I would assume we would already be hearing from TX and OK legislatures trying to protect Baylor, Tech, and OK State...

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State Rep. Leach who is a Baylor Law grad said he would file legislation to force a state lawmaker approval for a UT move. For it to get any traction, Gov. Abbot would have to add it as an agenda item to a special session since the Texas legislature is out for 2 years.

Listened to Baylol talking heads yesterday and they just quit. There is no fight there. The most jaw dropping thing I've seen. They were just like well, where does everyone end up?

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dcg4403 said:

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Yep, Sankey is a slim ball. Admittance by no admittance. Finebaum interview with him yesterday. Time to go after Sankey...

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Dude thinks he can get a chuckle and some "relatable" points by talking about how he doesn't know how to pay his water bill? How did we go so long without knowing this guy is an asshat?

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It is surprising how inept some executives can be when it comes to very basic things.

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We should wait for chip brown to chime in and then assume the opposite of whatever he says.

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BREAKING: #Texas and #Oklahoma - the founding members of the @Big12Conference - are leaving the league, sources tell https://t.co/RFQ2dWVupn.https://t.co/K0WFqSfSeT.

— Chip Brown (@ChipBrown247) July 23, 2021

Texas officials began conversations with Oklahoma brass a year ago - and six months ago those conversations culminated with intermediaries reaching out to officials in the Southeastern Conference about the possibility of Texas and OU joining the SEC, sources told Horns247.

Doesn't this whole thing just prove that tu needs us more than we need them?