Callate Donnie said:

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"I'm so sick of cancel culture." - TexAgs

"Tannehill said something I disagree with?!? He's no longer an Aggie." - Also TexAgs

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We fought the bloodiest war in our history to right those wrongs. Reperations were paid in both Northern and Southern blood.

We changed our constituion to fix the racial injustices of the past. We changed it again when democrats refused to accept it and instituted laws to keep black americans down.

There is not a single country in the world that isn't guilty of slavery at some point in thier history, but the United States has done more than any country in history to fix that mistake.

And now it seems people like Tannehill and his BLM brothers want to take us back to segregation and hatred.

He has the right to think what he wants, but none of these men have been to Libya, Somalia, China, France, Italy, or Spain and seen what it is like in those nations as a black person.

We can't compare ourselves to countries who are bad and say "well we are better than them". We have to fix what the country thinks is wrong in the pursuit of continually getting better. We can't measure this issue on a relative basis.

Do you agree with the statement that "America is founded on racist ideals?"

Not that there was and is racism in America but that it was founded on racism?

If you believe that this country was founded on racism then how, in your opinion, is racism dealt with and corrected in this country without breaking up the very foundation of the nation; the Constitution and the framework it has created?

If the foundation is flawed how do you fix the problem without fixing the foundation?

At it's core, the statement Tannehill is making is a statement that calls for the destruction of America and replacing it with something else. The words are subtle, but the meaning is clear.

If you or I was a convicted felon, - , beat our girlfriend, violated a restraining order, had the cops called on us, resisted arrest, would not be subdued after an attempt to be tazed, disobeyed orders of the cops trying to arrest us by going to our vehicle to get a weapon before being shot by the cops...

...it wouldn't have even made the national news.



But if it happens to one, cities have to burn and millionaires will refuse to play their games. They're not heroes for speaking out. If they were heroes, they'd enter police academy and become cops and show us how to enforce the law more "fairly."

The 3/5 compromise is the one thing in an almost perfect document that shouldn't be in there.

I'm sorry but this statement is in no way founded on facts or stats. I have multiple doctors on in my family and they actually all lean right. That's just odd to say that the left cares more about people than the right? Did you make up this assertion in your head or did you read that somewhere?

Champ Bailey said:

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TexanJeff said:

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Only the most Obtuse individual would think that Tannehill is saying that America as ONLY founded on racist principles, he is just saying that racism in this country is systemic and was here from the beginning.

No one in their right mind, based on that video would think he is saying America is nothing without racism. If anything, he is saying in order for America to be truly great, all men must be treated as equals, as endowed by our creator, to seek life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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There's that word again, systemic racism. What laws are systemically targeting people based on the color of their skin?

And to make it A&M related, since we have a bunch of people complaining about systemic racism here, what policies does A&M have that systemically target someone based on the color of their skin?

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Yes. And decades of crime statistics and social science don't support that either. In fact if shows the opposite.

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The 3/5 compromise is the one thing in an almost perfect document that shouldn't be in there.

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True, but how would you have gotten around it? The northern states didn't want slaves recognized at all in the population ... the southern slave states wanted slaves to be counted as people in the census. It was all about political power in terms of Congressional representation in the early Congress and both sides were well entrenched. How would you have broken the deadlock in the founding of the nation?

Doesn't matter what color he is - he's an idiot.

A lot of people are tired of this BS!!

ingramsh said:

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Idiot.

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From what I remember Ryan was a pretty sharp kid. Starting QB while trucking to pre-med as a Biology major in his off time.

Is he an idiot because he said something you don't agree with?

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Kid gloves as always with womanahill

Racist and sexist ideals. The constitution can be amended you know that right? Just like it was to allow people of color and women the right to vote. The very fact that when this country was founded it did not include rights for women or people of color is by nature being founded on racist ideals. Good thing that the constitution is a living and breathing document that can be changed so we don't have to destroy the foundation.

Nail mond to the cross. He sucks even though he's got a much better college resume than RT


RT BLM - aw he's just misinformed he's a good kid

TexAgs double standard

I love me some in-depth A&M Football discussions!

Staff . . .move this over to the politics board??

Edit - maybe for the history board.

EKUAg said:

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Idiot.

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Disappointing.

Mister Mystery Guest said:

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child rapist

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Not for nothing, but this is inaccurate. I mean, apart from tone, your argument has merit. But, just double check your facts. The "child rapist" part was the result of misapplication of a Rhode Island statute to a Wisconsin case.

Here's the actual WI statute:

(3) Third degree sexual assault.

(a) Whoever has sexual intercourse with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony.

I mean, it's still rape, but the warrant/charges come from his adult girlfriend and not a child. And he was charged, not convicted, so there is that. Just keeping facts straight.

And...we're back...

hood rats?

Well. Thank you. I'll Go back and delete the child rapist part.

Yes. It's a nickname for people who are convicted felons , - , beat their girlfriend, violate restraining orders, have the cops called on them, resist arrest, will not be subdued after an attempt to be tazed, disobey orders of cops trying to arrest them by going to our vehicle to get a weapon

I'm sorry but that's not what it means. Maybe you are thinking of gang banger or just the world criminal.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hood-rat#:~:text=noun,from%20an%20impoverished%20urban%20area

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The 3/5 compromise is the one thing in an almost perfect document that shouldn't be in there.

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True, but how would you have gotten around it? The northern states didn't want slaves recognized at all in the population ... the southern slave states wanted slaves to be counted as people in the census. It was all about political power in terms of Congressional representation in the early Congress and both sides were well entrenched. How would you have broken the deadlock in the founding of the nation?

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Since the Southern States were willing to go along with the 3/5 compromise which also led to a greater tax burden on those states, you could have split the representatives based on their percentage of the overall tax burden.

I ran the numbers and it isn't far off from the number of reps today. Texas still gets 36. California gets 58 vs. 52 but there are a number of states that would need to get at least one so this may balance out a little closer.

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Champ Bailey said:

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TexanJeff said:

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Only the most Obtuse individual would think that Tannehill is saying that America as ONLY founded on racist principles, he is just saying that racism in this country is systemic and was here from the beginning.

No one in their right mind, based on that video would think he is saying America is nothing without racism. If anything, he is saying in order for America to be truly great, all men must be treated as equals, as endowed by our creator, to seek life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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There's that word again, systemic racism. What laws are systemically targeting people based on the color of their skin?

And to make it A&M related, since we have a bunch of people complaining about systemic racism here, what policies does A&M have that systemically target someone based on the color of their skin?

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Yes. And decades of crime statistics and social science don't support that either. In fact if shows the opposite.

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Not understanding your post. Are you criticizing it?

Well, how about this?

I'll call...

{convicted felons , - , beat their girlfriend, violate restraining orders, have the cops called on them, resist arrest, will not be subdued after an attempt to be tazed, disobey orders of cops trying to arrest them by going to our vehicle to get a weapon}

...whatever the hell I want to call them and I won't apologize for it.

Tanny's a complete idiot!

JohnSnow said:

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Racist and sexist ideals. The constitution can be amended you know that right? Just like it was to allow people of color and women the right to vote. The very fact that when this country was founded it did not include rights for women or people of color is by nature being founded on racist ideals. Good thing that the constitution is a living and breathing document that can be changed so we don't have to destroy the foundation.

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Viewing the past in a vacuum absent of historical context is pointless. Those two issues have long been addressed. I'll say it the forum again, there has never been a time and place in history where more opportunity has been afford to more people irrespective of race, sex, religion.... Why is it that Nigerian immigrants don't seem to have these same racial injustices? Fact is they come here and flourish.... some for other minorities. That is the question BLM should be asking.

Gig'em Ryan

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Since the Southern States were willing to go along with the 3/5 compromise which also led to a greater tax burden on those states, you could have split the representatives based on their percentage of the overall tax burden.

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A Census, though, is a fairly straight forward method. Trying to link Congressional apportionment to economic statistics would be a muddled mess of dueling economic experts and accounting tricks. Linking political representation to tax burden could have had an interesting domino effect on voting rights over time.

Fact: Ryan Tannehill has a gorgeous wife who is hotter than any strange you have.

Let that soak in deep.

Ryan is anything but an idiot.

100 percent agree. Which I part of what I was inferring in my post. Those things have been addressed because the constitution is a living breathing and changeable document. So no need to tear it up like some people are saying. However, because we are a land of opportunity and we are great doesnt mean that we cant work to be even better than we currently are. There is clearly something in this country that needs to be done in order to bring both sides together. To sit back and say things are good how they are right now... i just dont see it.

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Only the most Obtuse individual would think that Tannehill is saying that America as ONLY founded on racist principles, he is just saying that racism in this country is systemic and was here from the beginning.

No one in their right mind, based on that video would think he is saying America is nothing without racism. If anything, he is saying in order for America to be truly great, all men must be treated as equals, as endowed by our creator, to seek life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Please explain to me where the USA has not made the efforts to create an equal playing field for all races and creeds to achieve success and the American Dream? I would put forth that there has actually been too much done which has created an entitlement mentality/attitude among many.
How are minorities not treated as equals? Actually they are treated with more "equity" than are whites in today's society. Special programs for everything from academics to financing to housing to even sports. I mean why are whites not represented equally/proportionately in sports?
I believe most of the whining, rioting, looting, etc, is a direct result of poor family values (white and black), and an attitude that this group of citizens ids "entitled" to everything without putting in the hard work it takes to acquire it legally.
Stop feeling sorry for yourselves- you live in the greatest country ever created on this planet. Stop committing crime and you will not be arrested. Stop resisting arrest and you will not be shot.Stop doing/selling drugs and get up in the morning and go to a real job (they are everywhere for everyone)- you will not have to worry about getting arrested or being broke.

https://www.theusconstitution.org/news/understanding-the-three-fifths-compromise/

It's ironic that counting slaves as a whole person is what the slave holding South wanted for political electoral power in 1787 when this compromise was reached.

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We fought the bloodiest war in our history to right those wrongs. Reperations were paid in both Northern and Southern blood.

We changed our constituion to fix the racial injustices of the past. We changed it again when democrats refused to accept it and instituted laws to keep black americans down.

There is not a single country in the world that isn't guilty of slavery at some point in thier history, but the United States has done more than any country in history to fix that mistake.

And now it seems people like Tannehill and his BLM brothers want to take us back to segregation and hatred.

He has the right to think what he wants, but none of these men have been to Libya, Somalia, China, France, Italy, or Spain and seen what it is like in those nations as a black person.

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Slavery is still a real thing in several parts of the world, but none of our oh so smart athletes care about that.

And none of them care about deprivation of human rights in China, because they gotsa get paid.

Over 600,000 Americans died on native soil in the Civil War. Some estimates are much higher. More than all other US war fatalities combined. But that's not enough for rich, spoiled, celebrities and athletes who have been coddled and sucked up to since they were teenagers. We've put athletes on much too high a pedestal for far too long.

Ok, staff, can we lock or move to 16? This forum is bad enough already without arguments pertaining to the original intent of the Founding Fathers.

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Racist and sexist ideals.

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I am interested in knowing the racist and sexist ideals in the founding document of our nation.

Here is a transcript of the document according to the National Archives ... please show us the racism and sexism

[url]https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript#toc-article-vii-[/url]

Of course .... no society is perfect, human are a flawed creation so there are examples of racism and sexism in our history. We are like every other nation on earth, regardless of their ideas, in that regard. But the founding document of our nation is pretty solid overall.

Now a transcript of the Bill of Rights ... same question ... examples of racism and sexism:

[url]https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights-transcript[/url]

I'd argue that the foundation of this nation is very solid and about of devoid of sexism and racism as one could ever expect in that or any era.

I do agree that our history is not all that pretty at times. Such is the nature of man ... again ... we are a flawed creation. But the foundation, I'd argue, is the best humanity has created in the history of mankind.

Great job, Tannehill!