Is this a repeat from every year since 2010 with the exception of 2019?

Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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We have RB depth issues. Really want to have 5 scholarship RBs. Currenty at 4, and #4 is a Juco with questionable ability.

Evans has had plenty of time to make up his mind. He probably wants a semester to play around. Doesnt care about spring ball, or learning the offense. That he is even taking an OV to OM is a red flag. Why would a first-rate talent like him want to play for a second rate program, with a drama-queen HC? Bagman? They will be desperate and put up with the worst of his BS?

Everything about Evans suggests he is less than serious. I am glad Jimbo drew a line in the sand.

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I agree with this. This kid (And his family and handlers...whomever is involved) have had plenty of time to learn any thing there is to know about every one of their possible options.

Somebody serious about their athletic future, if they had graduated from high school and was ready to enroll, they'd want to pick the school at this point...Georgia, A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, whomever, and early enroll to get there as soon as possible to give them the best chance to succeed their freshman year. If Evans isn't willing to do that, just wants to hang out not going to any school or being involved with any S&C and team programs for several more months, just wants to hang out and burn time being recruited throughout this spring...well okay...shows you where his head (and all the people influencing his decision making) is at.

TexanJeff said:

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Is this a repeat from every year since 2010 with the exception of 2019?

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Hope springs eternal! Did you see the last SEC shorts? Ya never know!!!

Until when does Jimbo have to decide whether he blue-shirts Crownover?

Would Jimbo likely not give a scholarship to Evans if we already had 4 scholarship, freshmen RB's (assuming we're out on Jackson, Collins, Crawford, and Evans is still in play)?

jsmc71@yahoo.com said:

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Until when does Jimbo have to decide whether he blue-shirts Crownover?

Would Jimbo likely not give a scholarship to Evans if we already had 4 scholarship, freshmen RB's (assuming we're out on Jackson, Collins, Crawford, and Evans is still in play)?

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He's blueshirting

Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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and #4 is a Juco with questionable ability.

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Not in the opinion of a national championship winning coach.

ironmanag said:

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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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and #4 is a Juco with questionable ability.

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Not in the opinion of a national championship winning coach.

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From the tape I saw, he's very talented. While he's not Leonard Fournette (and hardly any out there are), he runs a lot like him. Moves really well for a bigger guy.

ironmanag said:

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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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and #4 is a Juco with questionable ability.

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Not in the opinion of a national championship winning coach.

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Exactly. Nobody on this board has a clue what that kid can do at this level. As if there is ever a sure thing...

I would love for Crownover to win the Heisman, bump this thread, and tell me to go F- myself!

According to Hudl
-4.63 40 (not good)
-29.7 vert (not good)
-4.34 shuttle (very good)

At 6'1" 220#, he is not as dense as you want a RB. The ideal RB is ~5'10 220. At that height he should be 235 or more.

Probably not an accident that his best offer out of HS was Army. Probably not an accident that his best offer before us was to walkon at Oregon. His best scholy was UTSA or UCONN, dont know which is worse. We offer, and then Baylor and Oregon offer.

Baylor probably offered knowing they wouldnt have to make good, just so they could tell more talented little brother and dad that they tried to get big bro.

I don't know anything about him, but trust what the staff saw. Could be just another body, or could end up contributing in a big way.

The bigger Question:

We have RB Depth questions, WHY is he blueshirting? Anybody think of that?

He will miss summer workouts and much of fall ball. Unless he is a football genius, he will not learn the offense reading the playbook and watching tape. I dont know what Kilgore ran, but I doubt their protection schemes are as complex as Jimbo's. He will probably not understand the offense until halfway through the season, or later.

So WHY? (not sure the order)

1. B/c he is probably expected to be the "in case of emergency break glass" guy
2. The first game we wont be 2 TD favorites is Oct 3 starkville, the first game we will be dogs is Oct 17 Auburn
3. Jimbo wants high impact players badly, willing to risk running out of game-ready RBs early

Keep in mind that Jimbo puts a premium on RBs knowing the offense, even if they lack talent. Kibodi looked like a boy amongst men in the Auburn game. But, he knew who to block.

Is this kid going to be a starter? No, unless we are desperate with injuries. He's not the talent we need to compete for a SEC championship. As long as you only take a handful of these kind of kids with your schollies it's not bad, take more and you're a mediocre program.

Getting this kid is purely to get warm bodies to play/practice as a RB and to get in good with his brother.

That was my entire point. Alot of people want to believe he has a high ceiling.

Yep I'm in agreement with you. This kid is an extreme reach, and usually that's not ok but with the RB situation as it is I can see why they did it. You need someone above a walk-on talent level to give defenses looks at practice.

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Is this kid going to be a starter? No, unless we are desperate with injuries. He's not the talent we need to compete for a SEC championship. As long as you only take a handful of these kind of kids with your schollies it's not bad, take more and you're a mediocre program.

Getting this kid is purely to get warm bodies to play/practice as a RB and to get in good with his brother.

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This is a great get, when you think thru how two RB sets work. And no, I don't mean "fullback" by that.

Pony sets are supposed to look like what we ran in the bowl with Spiller as the big RB and Ainias as the fast RB. Spiller, Jackson and Crownover would all play the big back.

I think its a smart situational get. There is always a chance he breaks out. I expect a RB version of Hubenak. Anything more is gravy.

What's interesting is at least the tape to me looks better of Crownover than Jackson. Also, he looks like he could easily get bigger in the weight room with his frame.

Crownover also hurdles a dude in his tape- so not too sure on the vertical being sub 30.

So, if we don't get M Jackson, Collins or Crawford, but get Hubbard, is that the end of recruiting Evans even if he's available and we have 1 scholarship left?

Kind of agree with you on the tape.

Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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I would love for Crownover to win the Heisman, bump this thread, and tell me to go F- myself!

According to Hudl
-4.63 40 (not good)
-29.7 vert (not good)
-4.34 shuttle (very good)

At 6'1" 220#, he is not as dense as you want a RB. The ideal RB is ~5'10 220. At that height he should be 235 or more.

Probably not an accident that his best offer out of HS was Army. Probably not an accident that his best offer before us was to walkon at Oregon. His best scholy was UTSA or UCONN, dont know which is worse. We offer, and then Baylor and Oregon offer.

Baylor probably offered knowing they wouldnt have to make good, just so they could tell more talented little brother and dad that they tried to get big bro.

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If it's a legit 4.63, that's not bad for a big RB. Most good college ones that size are in the 4.55-4.65 range. Peterson and Henry are among the rare exceptions. Another recent big, effective RB, Arian Foster, ran a 4.69 at his pro day.

jsmc71 said:

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So, if we don't get M Jackson, Collins or Crawford, but get Hubbard, is that the end of recruiting Evans even if he's available and we have 1 scholarship left?

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No it's not. Evans would still have a spot if Jackson goes to Bama

Crownover breaks tackles well at the Juco level. He is tall, so it will be interesting to see if he can break SEC tackles. He has good vision and can make cuts while he is moving. He appears to have decent agility and good strength.

Jackson looks far more agile to me. He can make cuts and juke even when he is at a complete stop. He does not appear as developed physically, but he has the good RB frame. He has good vision too, but is not fast.

Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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The bigger Question:

We have RB Depth questions, WHY is he blueshirting? Anybody think of that?

He will miss summer workouts and much of fall ball. Unless he is a football genius, he will not learn the offense reading the playbook and watching tape. I dont know what Kilgore ran, but I doubt their protection schemes are as complex as Jimbo's. He will probably not understand the offense until halfway through the season, or later.

So WHY? (not sure the order)

1. B/c he is probably expected to be the "in case of emergency break glass" guy
2. The first game we wont be 2 TD favorites is Oct 3 starkville, the first game we will be dogs is Oct 17 Auburn
3. Jimbo wants high impact players badly, willing to risk running out of game-ready RBs early

Keep in mind that Jimbo puts a premium on RBs knowing the offense, even if they lack talent. Kibodi looked like a boy amongst men in the Auburn game. But, he knew who to block.

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Just a note that the bolded part above is not accurate. Crownover was a full qualifier out of high school so he can leave JUCO immediately. Per his commitment interview, the A&M staff is trying to enroll him by the end of the today (Jan. 21) so that he can participate in the spring workouts and practices. If for some reason that doesn't happen due to the late time frame, then Crownover said he would be enrolling at A&M in first Summer session at the latest.

Pumpkinhead said:

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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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The bigger Question:

We have RB Depth questions, WHY is he blueshirting? Anybody think of that?

He will miss summer workouts and much of fall ball. Unless he is a football genius, he will not learn the offense reading the playbook and watching tape. I dont know what Kilgore ran, but I doubt their protection schemes are as complex as Jimbo's. He will probably not understand the offense until halfway through the season, or later.

So WHY? (not sure the order)

1. B/c he is probably expected to be the "in case of emergency break glass" guy
2. The first game we wont be 2 TD favorites is Oct 3 starkville, the first game we will be dogs is Oct 17 Auburn
3. Jimbo wants high impact players badly, willing to risk running out of game-ready RBs early

Keep in mind that Jimbo puts a premium on RBs knowing the offense, even if they lack talent. Kibodi looked like a boy amongst men in the Auburn game. But, he knew who to block.

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Just a note that the bolded part above is not accurate. Crownover was a full qualifier out of high school so he can leave JUCO immediately. Per his commitment interview, the A&M staff is trying to enroll him by the end of the today (Jan. 21) so that he can participate in the spring workouts and practices. If for some reason that doesn't happen due to the late time frame, then Crownover said he would be enrolling at A&M in first Summer session at the latest.

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If jimbo needs him to, he'll enroll in the fall.

technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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The bigger Question:

We have RB Depth questions, WHY is he blueshirting? Anybody think of that?

He will miss summer workouts and much of fall ball. Unless he is a football genius, he will not learn the offense reading the playbook and watching tape. I dont know what Kilgore ran, but I doubt their protection schemes are as complex as Jimbo's. He will probably not understand the offense until halfway through the season, or later.

So WHY? (not sure the order)

1. B/c he is probably expected to be the "in case of emergency break glass" guy
2. The first game we wont be 2 TD favorites is Oct 3 starkville, the first game we will be dogs is Oct 17 Auburn
3. Jimbo wants high impact players badly, willing to risk running out of game-ready RBs early

Keep in mind that Jimbo puts a premium on RBs knowing the offense, even if they lack talent. Kibodi looked like a boy amongst men in the Auburn game. But, he knew who to block.

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Just a note that the bolded part above is not accurate. Crownover was a full qualifier out of high school so he can leave JUCO immediately. Per his commitment interview, the A&M staff is trying to enroll him by the end of the today (Jan. 21) so that he can participate in the spring workouts and practices. If for some reason that doesn't happen due to the late time frame, then Crownover said he would be enrolling at A&M in first Summer session at the latest.

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If jimbo needs him to, he'll enroll in the fall.

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There is no reason that Jimbo would want to delay Crownover enrolling until the Fall. Even if he is blue shirting with the scholarship counting towards 2021, he can practice with the team immediately. They are trying to enroll him now and if that doesn't happen because of how late the commitment happened, then he'll be enrolling first summer session.

Crownover would have to pay his own way for Spring and Summer, unless he qualified for financial aid. Surprised he would agree to that.

I did not realize he was a full qualifier. Shame on me for assuming otherwise.

Pumpkinhead said:

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technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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The bigger Question:

We have RB Depth questions, WHY is he blueshirting? Anybody think of that?

He will miss summer workouts and much of fall ball. Unless he is a football genius, he will not learn the offense reading the playbook and watching tape. I dont know what Kilgore ran, but I doubt their protection schemes are as complex as Jimbo's. He will probably not understand the offense until halfway through the season, or later.

So WHY? (not sure the order)

1. B/c he is probably expected to be the "in case of emergency break glass" guy
2. The first game we wont be 2 TD favorites is Oct 3 starkville, the first game we will be dogs is Oct 17 Auburn
3. Jimbo wants high impact players badly, willing to risk running out of game-ready RBs early

Keep in mind that Jimbo puts a premium on RBs knowing the offense, even if they lack talent. Kibodi looked like a boy amongst men in the Auburn game. But, he knew who to block.

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Just a note that the bolded part above is not accurate. Crownover was a full qualifier out of high school so he can leave JUCO immediately. Per his commitment interview, the A&M staff is trying to enroll him by the end of the today (Jan. 21) so that he can participate in the spring workouts and practices. If for some reason that doesn't happen due to the late time frame, then Crownover said he would be enrolling at A&M in first Summer session at the latest.

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If jimbo needs him to, he'll enroll in the fall.

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There is no reason that Jimbo would want to delay Crownover enrolling until the Fall. Even if he is blue shirting with the scholarship counting towards 2021, he can practice with the team immediately. They are trying to enroll him now and if that doesn't happen because of how late the commitment happened, then he'll be enrolling first summer session.

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It has nothing to do with the commitment date and everything to do with Zach Evans.

Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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Crownover would have to pay his own way for Spring and Summer, unless he qualified for financial aid. Surprised he would agree to that.

I did not realize he was a full qualifier. Shame on me for assuming otherwise.

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Since he's already in JUCO, he probably already has 95% of his student loan paperwork filled.

technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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The bigger Question:

We have RB Depth questions, WHY is he blueshirting? Anybody think of that?

He will miss summer workouts and much of fall ball. Unless he is a football genius, he will not learn the offense reading the playbook and watching tape. I dont know what Kilgore ran, but I doubt their protection schemes are as complex as Jimbo's. He will probably not understand the offense until halfway through the season, or later.

So WHY? (not sure the order)

1. B/c he is probably expected to be the "in case of emergency break glass" guy
2. The first game we wont be 2 TD favorites is Oct 3 starkville, the first game we will be dogs is Oct 17 Auburn
3. Jimbo wants high impact players badly, willing to risk running out of game-ready RBs early

Keep in mind that Jimbo puts a premium on RBs knowing the offense, even if they lack talent. Kibodi looked like a boy amongst men in the Auburn game. But, he knew who to block.

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Just a note that the bolded part above is not accurate. Crownover was a full qualifier out of high school so he can leave JUCO immediately. Per his commitment interview, the A&M staff is trying to enroll him by the end of the today (Jan. 21) so that he can participate in the spring workouts and practices. If for some reason that doesn't happen due to the late time frame, then Crownover said he would be enrolling at A&M in first Summer session at the latest.

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If jimbo needs him to, he'll enroll in the fall.

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There is no reason that Jimbo would want to delay Crownover enrolling until the Fall. Even if he is blue shirting with the scholarship counting towards 2021, he can practice with the team immediately. They are trying to enroll him now and if that doesn't happen because of how late the commitment happened, then he'll be enrolling first summer session.

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It has nothing to do with the commitment date and everything to do with Zach Evans.

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Re Evans, an OM podcast recorded and aired last night and based on "a number of sources", said LSU leaning towards passing. Georgia also leaning that way, but an in-home was mentioned without any date specified. Also said that, based on same sources, OM and A&M the most likely to land Evans.

Meanwhile, Tennessee visiting with Evans today: https://www.rockytoptalk.com/2020/1/21/21075137/tennessee-vols-football-recruiting-zachary-evans-five-star-running-back-visit

And, new rivals prediction has Evans landing at Georgia.

jsmc71 said:

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technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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The bigger Question:

We have RB Depth questions, WHY is he blueshirting? Anybody think of that?

He will miss summer workouts and much of fall ball. Unless he is a football genius, he will not learn the offense reading the playbook and watching tape. I dont know what Kilgore ran, but I doubt their protection schemes are as complex as Jimbo's. He will probably not understand the offense until halfway through the season, or later.

So WHY? (not sure the order)

1. B/c he is probably expected to be the "in case of emergency break glass" guy
2. The first game we wont be 2 TD favorites is Oct 3 starkville, the first game we will be dogs is Oct 17 Auburn
3. Jimbo wants high impact players badly, willing to risk running out of game-ready RBs early

Keep in mind that Jimbo puts a premium on RBs knowing the offense, even if they lack talent. Kibodi looked like a boy amongst men in the Auburn game. But, he knew who to block.

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Just a note that the bolded part above is not accurate. Crownover was a full qualifier out of high school so he can leave JUCO immediately. Per his commitment interview, the A&M staff is trying to enroll him by the end of the today (Jan. 21) so that he can participate in the spring workouts and practices. If for some reason that doesn't happen due to the late time frame, then Crownover said he would be enrolling at A&M in first Summer session at the latest.

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If jimbo needs him to, he'll enroll in the fall.

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There is no reason that Jimbo would want to delay Crownover enrolling until the Fall. Even if he is blue shirting with the scholarship counting towards 2021, he can practice with the team immediately. They are trying to enroll him now and if that doesn't happen because of how late the commitment happened, then he'll be enrolling first summer session.

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It has nothing to do with the commitment date and everything to do with Zach Evans.

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Re Evans, an OM podcast recorded and aired last night and based on "a number of sources", said LSU leaning towards passing. Georgia also leaning that way, but an in-home was mentioned without any date specified. Also said that, based on same sources, OM and A&M the most likely to land Evans.

Meanwhile, Tennessee visiting with Evans today: https://www.rockytoptalk.com/2020/1/21/21075137/tennessee-vols-football-recruiting-zachary-evans-five-star-running-back-visit

And, new rivals prediction has Evans landing at Georgia.

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Also saw a screenshot on SEC rant from a post supposedly made by his brother that says "All I know is Zach want out of Texas and A&M has no chance "

jsmc71 said:

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technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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The bigger Question:

We have RB Depth questions, WHY is he blueshirting? Anybody think of that?

He will miss summer workouts and much of fall ball. Unless he is a football genius, he will not learn the offense reading the playbook and watching tape. I dont know what Kilgore ran, but I doubt their protection schemes are as complex as Jimbo's. He will probably not understand the offense until halfway through the season, or later.

So WHY? (not sure the order)

1. B/c he is probably expected to be the "in case of emergency break glass" guy
2. The first game we wont be 2 TD favorites is Oct 3 starkville, the first game we will be dogs is Oct 17 Auburn
3. Jimbo wants high impact players badly, willing to risk running out of game-ready RBs early

Keep in mind that Jimbo puts a premium on RBs knowing the offense, even if they lack talent. Kibodi looked like a boy amongst men in the Auburn game. But, he knew who to block.

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Just a note that the bolded part above is not accurate. Crownover was a full qualifier out of high school so he can leave JUCO immediately. Per his commitment interview, the A&M staff is trying to enroll him by the end of the today (Jan. 21) so that he can participate in the spring workouts and practices. If for some reason that doesn't happen due to the late time frame, then Crownover said he would be enrolling at A&M in first Summer session at the latest.

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If jimbo needs him to, he'll enroll in the fall.

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There is no reason that Jimbo would want to delay Crownover enrolling until the Fall. Even if he is blue shirting with the scholarship counting towards 2021, he can practice with the team immediately. They are trying to enroll him now and if that doesn't happen because of how late the commitment happened, then he'll be enrolling first summer session.

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It has nothing to do with the commitment date and everything to do with Zach Evans.

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Re Evans, an OM podcast recorded and aired last night and based on "a number of sources", said LSU leaning towards passing. Georgia also leaning that way, but an in-home was mentioned without any date specified. Also said that, based on same sources, OM and A&M the most likely to land Evans.

Meanwhile, Tennessee visiting with Evans today: https://www.rockytoptalk.com/2020/1/21/21075137/tennessee-vols-football-recruiting-zachary-evans-five-star-running-back-visit

And, new rivals prediction has Evans landing at Georgia.

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I'm aware of all of that. He's being pursued by several
SEC teams, including us.

I personally would rather have had Crownover start practicing with the team this last Tuesday, get Hubbard and focus on Jackson for the final spot. But, that's not what's happening right now.

Jbob04 said:

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jsmc71 said:

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technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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technoviking said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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The bigger Question:

We have RB Depth questions, WHY is he blueshirting? Anybody think of that?

He will miss summer workouts and much of fall ball. Unless he is a football genius, he will not learn the offense reading the playbook and watching tape. I dont know what Kilgore ran, but I doubt their protection schemes are as complex as Jimbo's. He will probably not understand the offense until halfway through the season, or later.

So WHY? (not sure the order)

1. B/c he is probably expected to be the "in case of emergency break glass" guy
2. The first game we wont be 2 TD favorites is Oct 3 starkville, the first game we will be dogs is Oct 17 Auburn
3. Jimbo wants high impact players badly, willing to risk running out of game-ready RBs early

Keep in mind that Jimbo puts a premium on RBs knowing the offense, even if they lack talent. Kibodi looked like a boy amongst men in the Auburn game. But, he knew who to block.

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Just a note that the bolded part above is not accurate. Crownover was a full qualifier out of high school so he can leave JUCO immediately. Per his commitment interview, the A&M staff is trying to enroll him by the end of the today (Jan. 21) so that he can participate in the spring workouts and practices. If for some reason that doesn't happen due to the late time frame, then Crownover said he would be enrolling at A&M in first Summer session at the latest.

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If jimbo needs him to, he'll enroll in the fall.

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There is no reason that Jimbo would want to delay Crownover enrolling until the Fall. Even if he is blue shirting with the scholarship counting towards 2021, he can practice with the team immediately. They are trying to enroll him now and if that doesn't happen because of how late the commitment happened, then he'll be enrolling first summer session.

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It has nothing to do with the commitment date and everything to do with Zach Evans.

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Re Evans, an OM podcast recorded and aired last night and based on "a number of sources", said LSU leaning towards passing. Georgia also leaning that way, but an in-home was mentioned without any date specified. Also said that, based on same sources, OM and A&M the most likely to land Evans.

Meanwhile, Tennessee visiting with Evans today: https://www.rockytoptalk.com/2020/1/21/21075137/tennessee-vols-football-recruiting-zachary-evans-five-star-running-back-visit

And, new rivals prediction has Evans landing at Georgia.

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Also saw a screenshot on SEC rant from a post supposedly made by his brother that says "All I know is Zach want out of Texas and A&M has no chance "

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The brother might be right. But, I can tell you Georgia doesn't want him back, and wants in state Gibbs. Ole miss took the commitment of a different RB the same weekend Evans was there and they already have 4 other RBs and a RB commitment before their most recent one.

Florida and Tennessee are the most likely to get Evans last two official visits. He's going to take all of them to milk this recruitment as much as he can. Jimbo is keeping the door open for him the whole time.

I thought Georgia was back in on him? I saw a few reports saying he was back in play there.