Agreed. Guess that means we have to stop including Herbstreit's line about having the best student section in all of college football now. Maybe we can play this one instead to get the fans riled up?

A&M bashing aside, these nightcap recaps are a somewhat entertaining alternative to College Football Final. Wonder how long ESPN will let them continue...

aglaes said:

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Pretty much right. Home crowd is supposed to get loud when your defense is on the field. For a LONG time our defense has been so bad the 12th Man could never really get into the game. Defense is better under Elko, but not yet good enough to get the crowd whipped into a frenzy like the old Wrecking Crew days.

Play great defense = have intimidating crowd presence.

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Crowd has to hang around first. Bolting midway thru Q3 won't work

Very sad and true.

TxAg76 said:

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aglaes said:

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Pretty much right. Home crowd is supposed to get loud when your defense is on the field. For a LONG time our defense has been so bad the 12th Man could never really get into the game. Defense is better under Elko, but not yet good enough to get the crowd whipped into a frenzy like the old Wrecking Crew days.

Play great defense = have intimidating crowd presence.

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Crowd has to hang around first. Bolting midway thru Q3 won't work

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This is the whole chicken or the egg problem. Crowd will stay around if the team gives them something to stay for.

Sounds like they read texags

Until we start playing tough/hard for 60 minutes.

What does the attitude on TexAgs have to do with the product on the field?

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TxAg76 said:

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aglaes said:

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Pretty much right. Home crowd is supposed to get loud when your defense is on the field. For a LONG time our defense has been so bad the 12th Man could never really get into the game. Defense is better under Elko, but not yet good enough to get the crowd whipped into a frenzy like the old Wrecking Crew days.

Play great defense = have intimidating crowd presence.

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Crowd has to hang around first. Bolting midway thru Q3 won't work

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This is the whole chicken or the egg problem. Crowd will stay around if the team gives them something to stay for.

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No reason to leave THAT early during Auburn game

I've had a couple of friends who have coached at Kyle Field, as members of multiple staffs, tell me that frankly, the cat is out of the bag.

Players and coaches in the SEC (and outside the SEC) have either won here by now, sometimes multiple times, or know a bunch of people who have.

A big piece of home field advantage is perception and how you go into it. Alabama, Auburn, etc. have no reason to go into Kyle Field anymore with any particular amount of fear.

It's going to take a few years of hard nosed football and if A&M can squeak out a few LSU-type wins, that perception will start to creep back in.

I don't really care too much when folks left the Auburn game. Auburn came in and got everything they wanted at the very start.

They're not coming in nervous, still in awe, or anything. Then they, like many, realize they can tone out the droning "aaaaa" after a while.

We actually made it a little more interesting later in the game when the crowd had thinned out.

That's not to excuse leaving early. Obviously you don't want the perception that if you can punch A&M in the nose, they'll fold.

TheWoodsAg said:

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Loud does not equal intimidating. Kyle Field intimidates no one, the place does not breed an ounce of hostility. All of our visitors enjoy their road trips because of how well they are treated and the win they usually go home with. Want to have a great college football road trip? Go to Texas A&M, everyone will buy you drinks and food, tell you how great you are, ask you to talk about what a great time you're having and then you usually win the game....

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So we have to be Tech fans or the inbred mouthbreathers and treat opposing fans like **** before we can win games at home.

Who knew?

TxAg76 said:

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aglaes said:

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Pretty much right. Home crowd is supposed to get loud when your defense is on the field. For a LONG time our defense has been so bad the 12th Man could never really get into the game. Defense is better under Elko, but not yet good enough to get the crowd whipped into a frenzy like the old Wrecking Crew days.

Play great defense = have intimidating crowd presence.

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Crowd has to hang around first. Bolting midway thru Q3 won't work

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Then the team shouldn't play like garbage and be out of the game by the third quarter. The team can directly control the fan atmosphere. Play like garbage, and the atmosphere sucks. Play your ass off, and the atmosphere feeds on it. Our team has been unprepared for every game this year, both coaching-wise and effort-wise.

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The attitude on this board is a reflection of the Kyle Field crowd, and vice versa. Self-loathing, impatient and quick to give up.

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Decades of mediocrity is not "quick"

I always make it a point to visit the zoo each day to get my spirits lifted. Thanks zoo, you don't disappoint !

Maroon Dawn said:

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gooberhead said:

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The attitude on this board is a reflection of the Kyle Field crowd, and vice versa. Self-loathing, impatient and quick to give up.

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You get that we were EMBARRASSED in both games against top teams

At NO POINT were we a threat to win those games

Then we were EMBARRASSED by a team that lost to SJSU at home and barely snuck away with a win

So what has this team done to earn patience and support?

NOTHING

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And "being a Good Ag" who just keeps giving the AD their money and never demanding results in return is WHY we do less with more than anyone else in CFB

Get angry and demand results or accept eternal mediocrity

I'm pissed

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Yeah! Fire everybody!

What a long workday! Not saying I feel sorry for them , just saying it is a long day.

12thAngryMan said:

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In case you missed it, Chris Fowler, Herbie, and Bear ripped A&M in last night's "nightcap recap". A&M discussion starts at 3:02. TL;DR: A&M has no chance against Alabama, and the home field advantage at Kyle Field is a joke. They tell it like it is after a few drinks...

Chris Fowler Nightcap Recap

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They speak the truth. We can't get butt hurt over the truth.

This pisses me off. It's not like A&M has a history of being a great road team. There is a difference in the home crowd doing everything they can to make the atmosphere what it is and the football team being absolutely mediocre for decades.

I have been to Clemson, Auburn, Alabama, Florida, OU, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, Mississippi State, and not a single place was louder than A&M has been time after time. The only stadium I've been in that felt "intimidating" at all is Alabama. And it was only when I looked up at the walls and saw 17 years of National Championships displayed.

We can yell all we want but until they allow the student section to start making tackles, that's all it is. And it's better than any environment I've ever been to.

The fat guy in the back is an idiot!

Kyle has long been a tourist attraction, not a hard place to play.

TheWoodsAg said:

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Loud does not equal intimidating. Kyle Field intimidates no one, the place does not breed an ounce of hostility. All of our visitors enjoy their road trips because of how well they are treated and the win they usually go home with. Want to have a great college football road trip? Go to Texas A&M, everyone will buy you drinks and food, tell you how great you are, ask you to talk about what a great time you're having and then you usually win the game....

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You are confusing fan experience with visiting player experience. It's an intimidating atmosphere for an opposing player, but not enough to overcome how much our teams have sucked for most of the past 20 years

nothing they said was inaccurate.