Ags win every time. NOT a rivalry.
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That said, Morris took a steaming pile handed to him and has recruited his a$$ off. Not to mention that team improved dramatically over the course of last year.
They will be a force to be reckoned with.
TexasAGitator said:
Ags win every time. NOT a rivalry.
Not what they said in the 80s and 90s when we beat them every game like a redheaded stepchild.HoustonAg2106 said:TexasAGitator said:
Ags win every time. NOT a rivalry.
That's what LSU said...
NyAggie said:Quote:
That said, Morris took a steaming pile handed to him and has recruited his a$$ off. Not to mention that team improved dramatically over the course of last year.
They will be a force to be reckoned with.
not so sure I'd call Arkansas a "force"
based on recruiting they should get better under morris and win more games and make bowls but I still don't see them winning an SECW title in morris' tenure.
2011?hogfan14 said:NyAggie said:Quote:
That said, Morris took a steaming pile handed to him and has recruited his a$$ off. Not to mention that team improved dramatically over the course of last year.
They will be a force to be reckoned with.
not so sure I'd call Arkansas a "force"
based on recruiting they should get better under morris and win more games and make bowls but I still don't see them winning an SECW title in morris' tenure.
Agree but if that's the bar then 99% of college football teams wouldn't succeed with Saban and Alabama in the division.
What really sucks is going 11-2 and finishing #5 in the country...while being 3rd in your division lol.
Quit kidding yourselfAggie87 said:#Mke said:
Arkansas is a rival just as LSU, TTU, and BU are rivals. A&M has one true arch-rival and that's the school in Austin.
No, the school in Austin is not an arch rival. They used to be.
A&M moved on 7 years ago. And thankfully so. Best decision in the football program in at least 50 years.
Please stopWhatthefunyo said:
They would beat our butt up and down the field during the last several years in the Big 12. Now the role has reversed. The games are always too close to call. We first played in 1903 and have played 75 years total. The overall record is 41-31-3 in Arkansas's favor.
We think they are trash and they think the same about us.
Seems like a rivalry to me.
Emilio Fantastico said:
You don't think he's going to live 10 more years?
The Real Wiz said:
Some reading here want the straight view from an Arkansas perspective; some don't. When you're posting on an "enemy" site, you know that going in.
For those that do, here it is. The Aggies are "a" rival, but not THE rival. Truth is, we still haven't established that since our transition to the SEC, and I suspect your experience will be the same. Maybe 30-40 years from now (IF college football is still being played; but I digress) there will be enough history with one of the SEC schools for a real rivalry to have developed. Something that approaches - if not equals - what you AND Arkansas had with the Horns.
Texas played more games vs. A&M, and for that reason, I'd concede that they (UT) today consider A&M more of a rival than Arkansas. On the other hand, in a time and place most of you don't remember (though many of you will, and almost ALL of your parents/uncles, etc will), Texas and Arkansas was THE game - hands down - in the SWC for 3 decades. Obviously, with some exceptions; but in pre-season anticipation, and National attention, that was the best game by far. That's a fact. But it's also true that we stopped playing them every season once we moved to the SEC 25 years ago so we only play them every now and then now. Those old feelings do pop up when we meet them, but playing in the SEC is like playing 5 or 6 Texas teams every season. So that's what you replace the one big rival with.
And the other thing is that, for a LONG period of time, A&M just wasn't very good. I'm NOT trying to poke fun or insult you folks, but that's just true (just like Arkansas has sucked the last few years that's true too). Go back and look at the 60's, 70's and 80's. There were a few short periods of pretty good football (mid-70's under Bellard, mid to late 80's under Sherrill), but otherwise, pretty much a waste-land. Neither Arkansas nor Texas really made a big deal out of A&M for most of that time.
Now, it's Arkansas who has been in a rough cycle - the last 6-7 years have been as bad a stretch as the Hogs have EVER experienced. I've got to tell you, the thing that pisses me off the most is the 0-7 streak with A&M - for two reasons. One is that it disguises, at least for those who don't know the bier arc of the series, how Arkansas has dominated A&M for 5 decades. And secondarily, because Arkansas should (not could, but should) have won at least 4 of those recent games. I take nothing away from A&M that they did not melt down at the end of the games (or OT) as Arkansas did, but the fact is that Arkansas lost those games more than A&M won. That's more frustrating that getting your ears beat in.
I'm sure that will come across as sour grapes, and - yes - I am bitter about it. Again - A&M didn't cheat or do anything unethical - they just happened to be the beneficiary of some spectacular BAD football (by Arkansas) in situations where any generic team in Arkansas' position wins 95% of the time. So my frustration is aimed at my own program, not yours.
All of that said, I currently want to beat the Aggies more than anyone else on our schedule - yes, even Alabama. The reason is that even though I don't like to lose to anyone - Bama or anyone else; at least Alabama has been the "gold standard" in college football the last decade; there's no disgrace in losing to them. But a 7 game losing streak to the AGGIES? We have to put the universe back in order by re-establishing our dominance over your program. Hell - most of you even expect that to happen at a sub-conscious level, even if you aren't' aware of it.
Not sure if it will happen this year - probably not. Morris is recruiting very well, and I'm confident that things will turn around sooner than later. Bottom line is that I expect the next 10 years of Aggie-Hog games to be really, really entertaining games. Who knows we may even end up really being each other's rival.
And to the fellow who calculated how long it would take for the Aggies to catch the Hogs in the series - it won't happen in his lifetime. Take that to the bank.
Emilio Fantastico said:
You don't think he's going to live 10 more years?
Umm, my math is perfect. Your last line said...The Real Wiz said:Emilio Fantastico said:
You don't think he's going to live 10 more years?
There you go . . . doing Aggie math again (don't blame me - you did this to yourself).
Please explain how a team that is 10 games behind in a series will be AHEAD in the unlikely scenario that they win the next 10 years (one game per year)?
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By the way, I was being a little tongue in cheek with that "put the universe back in order" bit. Joking aside, I do believe the breaks, which have all gone A&M's way during this streak (although I'll grant that there were some games where the Ags dominated - I'm talking about the several very, very close games that Arkansas very creatively found ways to fold in), will start evening out. And the talent gap will disappear withing 2 years altogether.
Emilio Fantastico said:Umm, my math is perfect. Your last line said...The Real Wiz said:Emilio Fantastico said:
You don't think he's going to live 10 more years?
There you go . . . doing Aggie math again (don't blame me - you did this to yourself).
Please explain how a team that is 10 games behind in a series will be AHEAD in the unlikely scenario that they win the next 10 years (one game per year)?
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By the way, I was being a little tongue in cheek with that "put the universe back in order" bit. Joking aside, I do believe the breaks, which have all gone A&M's way during this streak (although I'll grant that there were some games where the Ags dominated - I'm talking about the several very, very close games that Arkansas very creatively found ways to fold in), will start evening out. And the talent gap will disappear withing 2 years altogether.
"And to the fellow who calculated how long it would take for the Aggies to catch the Hogs in the series - it won't happen in his lifetime. Take that to the bank."
The current series is at 41-31-3. Ten more wins makes it 41-41-3.
That's how math works. But you are from Arkansas, so it's probably beyond your grasp.
Little Rock Ag said:
I never want to say never, but I have serious doubts about Arkansas' ability to compete with A&M on a longterm basis. The public schools in Little Rock are in shambles and they no longer can provide a reliable source of athletes. Chad Morris MUST mine deep in Texas to get the kind of athletes he will need to win. And, he is going to have to know how to run the program, not just be a wunderkid genius on offense. His first season was rocky and I am not convinced he has the ability to manage a top-flight SEC program.
As for the past, A&M has been basically even with the Hogs since 1971 when scholarship limits were introduced. I know the Razorbacks have a hard time swallowing that pill, but the truth is there is no logical reason to expect Arkansas to surpass A&M unless WE blow it big time. It's in OUR hands, not the Hogs'.
gopitt said:
A&M has no rivals. Sorry, but true no matter how desperately y'all try to create one.
Army? You've got to be kidding.
Franklin Delano Bluth said:
Why would a pitt fan post over 6300 times on this board
Lateralus Ag said:Franklin Delano Bluth said:
Why would a pitt fan post over 6300 times on this board
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