gocobra said:
Wow. That says a lot when the other team's best players are afraid we might hurt them in a bowl game.
MassAggie97 said:
I had no idea NC State was so overflowing with NFL-caliber talent!
jxs40 said:
Maybe the bowls should provide a free Lloyd's of London insurance policy to players identified with NFL talent.
(half serious half joking)
Kozmozag said:
Has any player bailed on a championship game yet?
Agsuffering@bulaw said:
These situations should be evaluated case-by case. I agreed with the WR, b/c he is projected mid 1st round.
Unless there is some undisclosed reason, I disagree with Spratt's (the LB) decision. Most projections have him in rounds 2-3. He probably received a round 2 draft grade. In other words, he is looking at $0.5-4 mil guaranteed.
But if he has a big bowl game against a good SEC rushing team, he could play his way into the 1st round and be guaranteed $10 mil or more. The scouting reports all seem to say he has NFL tools, but he needs to get more physical against blockers.
Agsuffering@bulaw said:
Assuming no preexisting conditions, Anybody know the cost of a loss of value policy for a projected mid 1st round player? mid 2nd round player?
How much would it cost to insure a player for a bowl game?
Little Rock Ag said:
This is a bad trend in my opinion. I understand why players feel that way, but, c'mon, you're still a vital part of the NC State team until the game is over.
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"It's very important to remember that the threshold is 40 percent below their projected earnings,"
Mateo84 said:
How is a bowl game any more or less meaningless than any other game other than a playoff game? If these players are skipping a bowl game, why not skip the last game of the season? Why not just skip the whole year and wait for the NFL?
Signel said:
We've had guys in the past play for us and have insurance to protect their draft status. I like how this works. It gives them a chance to experience the final game with their teammates AND reap the rewards of their hard work.
Four years of a pampered lifestyle, room and board and books, special accommodations, tutoring, and more, all for a limited amount of effort is more than enough pennies.decent looking Ag said:30wedge said:
They need some skin in the game so to speak. If they sit out and do make it to the NFL, they should have to pay back some of their scholarship.
How many millions of dollars do universities make off of these kids without them ever seeing a penny?
Yes the coaches should. But that would never happen because you have universities that come up with stupid contracts where they get paid even if they don't coach for several years on their remaining contract. Like Sumlin.PacifistAg said:30wedge said:
They need some skin in the game so to speak. If they sit out and do make it to the NFL, they should have to pay back some of their scholarship.
Then you'll just get players claiming muscle tightness and they don't feel comfortable playing.
Should coaches pay back part of their salary if they accept another job and don't coach the bowl game?
HoustonAg2106 said:Little Rock Ag said:
This is a bad trend in my opinion. I understand why players feel that way, but, c'mon, you're still a vital part of the NC State team until the game is over.
It's a meaningless game with a lot of money at stake for some of these players, I would make the same decision as long as it wasn't a playoff game
30wedge said:Four years of a pampered lifestyle, room and board and books, special accommodations, tutoring, and more, all for a limited amount of effort is more than enough pennies.decent looking Ag said:30wedge said:
They need some skin in the game so to speak. If they sit out and do make it to the NFL, they should have to pay back some of their scholarship.
How many millions of dollars do universities make off of these kids without them ever seeing a penny?
30wedge said:Four years of a pampered lifestyle, room and board and books, special accommodations, tutoring, and more, all for a limited amount of effort is more than enough pennies.decent looking Ag said:30wedge said:
They need some skin in the game so to speak. If they sit out and do make it to the NFL, they should have to pay back some of their scholarship.
How many millions of dollars do universities make off of these kids without them ever seeing a penny?
Mateo84 said:
How is a bowl game any more or less meaningless than any other game other than a playoff game? If these players are skipping a bowl game, why not skip the last game of the season? Why not just skip the whole year and wait for the NFL?
Little Rock Ag said:HoustonAg2106 said:Little Rock Ag said:
This is a bad trend in my opinion. I understand why players feel that way, but, c'mon, you're still a vital part of the NC State team until the game is over.
It's a meaningless game with a lot of money at stake for some of these players, I would make the same decision as long as it wasn't a playoff game
Glad to know you're okay with NC State winning. Since it's a meaningless game and all.
Totally disagree.wbt5845 said:When you look at the benefits the kid receives from the school vs. the number of hours of work the kid puts in to play his sport - he would do better flipping burgers at McDonalds.decent looking Ag said:30wedge said:
They need some skin in the game so to speak. If they sit out and do make it to the NFL, they should have to pay back some of their scholarship.
How many millions of dollars do universities make off of these kids without them ever seeing a penny?
So yeah the kid has no incentive to play in a glorified exhibition game that might endanger his ability to support his family for years to come. It's a no brainer, actually.
That's ridiculous.Bockaneer said:
Bowls are like extra practice- early spring if you will... Let them sit and see what the new talent can do
Onionman said:That's ridiculous.Bockaneer said:
Bowls are like extra practice- early spring if you will... Let them sit and see what the new talent can do
Why even play any game in the season then???
Crocker said:
Players are free to walk at any time. I don't begrudge any individual who makes that personal choice. Not sure what I'd do balancing loyalty, commitment and risk. I do think it's worse to leave a team before a season is up than to forgo an entire season.
Games without key players lose entertainment appeal accordingly. This is the issue for me. I do think our bowl has lost some atteactiveness with a weakened side and my level of interest has been lessened. Sucks to play anyone who can make excuses for a loss. Also it just kind of sucks investing time following a sport where the players walk away before busniness is concluded.
Ag4coal said:Onionman said:That's ridiculous.Bockaneer said:
Bowls are like extra practice- early spring if you will... Let them sit and see what the new talent can do
Why even play any game in the season then???Apparently not.Quote:
The season is obviously a different beast.Quote:
And we are already starting to see more guys sit out seasons, or half seasons. It will increase as the years go along and I don't blame them one bit.
The university can pay for it if they want. Amazingly enough, not only does the NCAA allow this, despite being backwards and wrong-headed in so many other ways, they actually give each school "student assistance" money! From the ESPN article linked above:HoustonAg2106 said:Signel said:
We've had guys in the past play for us and have insurance to protect their draft status. I like how this works. It gives them a chance to experience the final game with their teammates AND reap the rewards of their hard work.
Not everyone can afford that kind of insurance though
I didn't know this before, but good bull!Quote:
The student assistance fund is money provided to every university by the NCAA that can be used for a variety of scenarios to help student-athletes financially for everything from travel for funerals to formula for babies. The NCAA allows universities to pay for the insurance policies out of this fund, but not every university chooses to do so. Texas A&M, for example, paid $50,000 from this fund to help offensive lineman Cedric Ogbuehi secure insurance. Butt and his family secured loans to pay for the premium instead of using the student assistance fund at Michigan.
Ag4coal said:Mateo84 said:
How is a bowl game any more or less meaningless than any other game other than a playoff game? If these players are skipping a bowl game, why not skip the last game of the season? Why not just skip the whole year and wait for the NFL?
I think you will start to see people, especially at RB, skipping entire seasons. OL and DL would also be good candidates to sit out once their worth has been proven, but they aren't necessarily sexy enough to be remembered after a year off.
jt16 said:Ag4coal said:Mateo84 said:
How is a bowl game any more or less meaningless than any other game other than a playoff game? If these players are skipping a bowl game, why not skip the last game of the season? Why not just skip the whole year and wait for the NFL?
I think you will start to see people, especially at RB, skipping entire seasons. OL and DL would also be good candidates to sit out once their worth has been proven, but they aren't necessarily sexy enough to be remembered after a year off.
That's ironic since the first to try that was a RB that was a monumental bust after a year away from a college football program
