Brennus said:
JFF backs Aaron Burr
I laughed way to hard at this.
Brennus said:
JFF backs Aaron Burr
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Let's say Johnny gets a back-up gig in the NFL at 500k. That's peanuts compared to a starting gig that he could get if he starts in the CFL and excels (like Flutie).
And no, he is never going to get an opportunity to start in the NFL by being a back-up there.
What happens if he does what you and some others here think he should do (play for a lower salary just to prove he isn't 18 anymore) and gets his knee blown out in game 3?CrazyDayDuck said:Threadbare said:Yeah, when you sarcastically referred to me as 'genius', I knew I had you...CrazyDayDuck said:Threadbare said:I really hope you are nowhere near the price-negotiation function of whatever enterprise you are associated with...CrazyDayDuck said:Threadbare said:I guess if you have the mentality of a beggar, you're a beggar. If they didn't want to pay him, they should have put a sock in June Jones' pie hole.CrazyDayDuck said:CoachLB said:
I would low ball him too. He sabotaged his career. I still think Johnny can and will play great if he stays focused and out of trouble. I have fewer doubts about his ability than I do his not messing up. I am a Johnny fan. But you just cannot screw your football career and former team and expect everybody just trust you with their team and throw money at you. Earn your trust and your money first.
Exactly
These Millennials just can not understand the concepts that "Beggars can not be choosers" and "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".
Johnny doesn't need the money (assuming he hasn't blown it all on hookers and blow that is).
What he needs is a second chance. Hamilton with June Jones as the coach provides that.
If Johnny can stay out of trouble for two years in the CFL (big if) then some NFL teams may take a chance on him.
Again, I don't know where this idea comes from that he has to sign right now. Let them feel a little pressure (they absolutely don't want to end up with nothing out of all of this), and see if they'll move a little, or trade his rights to someone that wants him more. I think he still has a little time to let it play out, and I'm sure that he and his agent know exactly what the expiration date on the offer is. Why should he panic and take a low ball offer right now?
To show how contrite he is? While I hope he learned something from his experience, that would just be dumb...
It's not just the opportunity to show his talent genius, everybody knows Johnny has talent.
It's the opportunity to show his maturity, which pretty much nobody believes he has.
And it's not about panicking. Well, unless he blew his NFL money on hookers and blow that is. In which case, he may be panicking in hopes of getting a back up NFL gig.
You know how I can tell when I am winning an argument? When the other person starts making personal attacks.
Get back with me you get your house paid off and have the tuition of your kids covered at the age of 52, okay kiddo?
I don't care what you have paid for or by when; by your arguments on this board, I stand by my original assessment...
Which is wrong.
But hey, some day when you grow up you will realize that you have to have long-term plans and not think what may be best for the short term.
Let's say Johnny gets a back-up gig in the NFL at 500k. That's peanuts compared to a starting gig that he could get if he starts in the CFL and excels (like Flutie).
And no, he is never going to get an opportunity to start in the NFL by being a back-up there.
Pretty sure JFF is not that worried about the money at this point. "Could not come to terms" could be about anything including length of contract. May have had nothing to do with the money.BombayAg said:Dr RC said:You do realize he is simply following the advice of his agent don't you?BombayAg said:
I read that they "could not come to terms". WTF does that mean? JFF is in no position to dictate terms. He just needs to see the field making minimum wage.
What else was the issue?
You are right, but that is what I find perplexing. Penny wise pound foolish in my opinion. JFF has no cards to play. His goal should have been opportunities to prove, rather than cash.
There are times in one's career when one takes a paycut in exchange for opportunity. Too bad.
JodyMcD96 said:
Take money out of the equation for a moment.
The Spring League is a chance to warm up, polish some understandably rusty skills and see where you are as a 25 year old versus a 22 year old.
A couple of outcomes are possible:
1. Johnny knocks the rust off, plays very solid, makes good reads and throws and shows Hamilton that he is solid enough to sign a contract with. He signs for $150k plus maybe a little more. Say $315K, why? Why not, I don't know how their contracts and pay work.
2. Johnny goes completely JFF and transcends the norms of football and then NFL scouts burn up the phone lines to home base saying, "We got to get him!" a bidding war commences and he signs with an NFL franchise and his team wins the Super Bowl with his play.
3. Something in between #1 and #2
4. Johnny has a bad showing. The TiCats deal is still on the table and Johnny takes it and spends the next two years trying to tune with June. Makes the TiCats something of a household name amongst Aggies and wins a Grey Cup.
5. It just doesn't work out.
None of those are really money dependent and are purely based on the outcome of his play, maturity and dedication. The Spring League is a really smart play. I will probably buy tickets and go watch if I am in town.
CrazyDayDuck said:
I think you're over-estimating Johnny's market value, as is Johnny's agent.
Most people see Johnny as a head case that was a bust in the NFL.
Better Hamilton image?Sharpshooter said:
Did he fail to make the casting call?
Apparel licensing for pro teams runs between 5% and 6%. I don't know how much apparel the CFL sells overall or if there's a league revenue share on apparel. If Hamilton keeps all apparel licensing revenue, JFF needs to generate $3 million in incremental sales for the Tiger Cats to break even on apparel. Since the most apparel sales for any CFL team was $10 million for the Saskatchewan Roughriders, it seems a stretch to think the Tiger Cats will be rolling in the dough from merchandise sales.zephyr88 said:This ^^^ times eleventy billion... like it or not...Viper16 said:
Hamilton is trying to get away with a cheap deal....JFF would instantly generate a few million in gear sales with his presence on the football field. I don't blame him for saying no to the bs deal.
Threadbare said:
So, some people are reporting that by signing the spring league contract he has forfeited the chance to play CFL this year. Is that correct??!!!
DSAg44 said:
Jff has been posting in premium for weeks now...we're like bffs now
he bought texagsBombayAg said:DSAg44 said:
Jff has been posting in premium for weeks now...we're like bffs now
Did JFF pay for premium?
Threadbare said:
So, some people are reporting that by signing the spring league contract he has forfeited the chance to play CFL this year. Is that correct??!!!
Old Town Ag said:
CFL requires 2 szn commitment.
I'm confuzd..BCG Disciple said:Old Town Ag said:
CFL requires 2 szn commitment.
Yep. It's comebackszn, not comebackszn. Do it on your terms, bro.