I think the only way A&M gets him, is if he has some level of assurance he gets every chance at LT.

Getting drafted LT out of Rice is not going to be nearly as high a pick, as if it were a P5 school. He knows that.

Looking at our OL, IIRC, we played a bunch of Freshman during the year, and shuffled players around.

We have on our last depth chart listed:

Starters:
LT: Koda - 6'6"/310, Jr
LG: Prater - 6'4"/300, So
C: McCoy - 6'4"/315, So
RG: Lanfear - 6'6"/320, Jr
RT: Sutherland - 6'5"/310 Jr

2nds:
LT: Moore - 6'5"/317, Fr-HS
LG: McCollum - 6'5"/295, Fr-RS ...... Green - 6'6"/300, Fr-HS
C: McCollum
RG: Hocker - 6'5"/318, Fr-HS...... Congel - 6'3"/315, Fr-HS
RT: Daimler - 6'7"/325, Gr-TR

Signed last year, and not on the depth:
T: Grayson Reed: 6'5"/304
G: Adrian Wolford: 6'5"/310

So... we already have a pretty veteran OL. IF everyone stays healthy. Him waiting until Spring to decide could very well take into consideration that with OL... you will have injuries and that is opportunistic for him.

Without looking at other school's rosters, I would think if he wanted to be a Sip... on the surface, that would have been done, already. Their OL is terrible... they are desperate for players and I can't imagine Hermie wouldn't tell him he has the spot at LT, if he wants it.

Going to either OU or Sip wouldn't make sense if he wants to improve the quality of players he faces, above what he got at Rice. He likely didn't face any NFL quality DL there... and he likely won't see more than 1 or 2 playing for OU or Sip.

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Thought he was a sip lock.

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This! All the sips on here had him pegged as their starter next year.
Maybe he doesn't like being kissed by men?

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I still think he is a lock.

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If your lock is considering Michigan TAMU Auburn and tu plus he wants to be an NFL lineman he's not that smart. One of those schools clearly is not like the others for putting lineman in the league. Know which one it is?

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I think he is smart enough to know that a person is not very smart to think that, if are a first round pick, you may not be if you go to that "one" school.

He told SI that he's looking to showcase his skills for the NFL with film against top defenses as opposed to the AAC.

He's approaching this systematically as a business decision and also looking for a coach who can make corrections to his technique.

That would seem to bode well for A&M as Turner is known as an intense, meticulous technician and Anderson has already noted A&M would let him play against the SEC (plus Clemson) while staying in Texas. No doubts that would let him line up against top competition.

He'd probably be able to compete for a starting slot at LT. Turner was trying to find his rotation last year and didn't seem settled at OT between Martin, Green, Moore, etc.

Although Martin is our most experienced OL, he was downright terrible at times last year. I seem to remember him getting benched in the bowl game after committing a few holding penalties after getting horribly out of position.

Emilio Fantastico said:

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Although Martin is our most experienced OL, he was downright terrible at times last year. I seem to remember him getting benched in the bowl game after committing a few holding penalties after getting horribly out of position.

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This.

Martin's performance all year was one of the most disappointing I've seen. Maybe we got used to top notch LT's. All season we watched him either get blown up or get called for holding...sometimes both. I remember him getting called for 2 penalties on one play in the bowl game.

The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

Martin had a rough year for us. I wouldn't be surprised to see him transfer out this spring.

Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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How many were from the Big 12?

Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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I think he's including the Longhorns among the mediocre teams where the NFL will still somehow find you.

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Martin had a rough year for us. I wouldn't be surprised to see him transfer out this spring.

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i can see him going to syracuse if he goes. their coach is his father-in-law.

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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Because Rice played a schedule that included the #3, 9, 12 and 14th ranked teams last year. He should just stay there.

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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How many were from the Big 12?

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NFL - grouped all OL's together into one position category.

2017 OL Drafted (32)
SEC - 6 (4 tackles)
Big12 - 1 (0 tackles)

2016 OL Drafted (41)
SEC - 12 (5 tackles)
Big12 - 5 (2 tackles)

2015 OL Drafted (46)
SEC - 11 (5 tackles)
Big 12 - 4 (3 tackles)

2014 OL Drafted (45)
SEC - 11 (5 tackles)
Big 12 - 2 (1 tackle)

SEC has more tackles drafted than Big 12 OL's drafted (centers, guards and tackles) for each of the past 4 years.

SEC Tackle's drafted

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Martin had a rough year for us. I wouldn't be surprised to see him transfer out this spring.

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If he graduates this spring, it wouldn't surprise me if he joined his dad and father in law at Syracuse for his final season as a graduate transfer.

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cevans_40 said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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Because Rice played a schedule that included the #3, 9, 12 and 14th ranked teams last year. He should just stay there.

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Lol at schedule smack. Have you seen our schedule next year?

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cevans_40 said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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Because Rice played a schedule that included the #3, 9, 12 and 14th ranked teams last year. He should just stay there.

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Hey Bro, please indicate which 4 teams that Rice played last year that ended the season ranked. I could find only 1, Stanford.

The Aggies will play 5 teams that finished ranked In the top 20 in 2018. If he wants competition, he will choose A&M
Here is their schedule:
Stanford,UAB, N.Texas, UTSA, Old Dominion, Houston, FIU, Army, la. tech, S.Miss, UTEP, La Tech

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TheBro said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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Because Rice played a schedule that included the #3, 9, 12 and 14th ranked teams last year. He should just stay there.

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Hey Bro, please indicate which 4 teams that Rice played last year that ended the season ranked. I could find only 1, Stanford.

The Aggies will play 5 teams that finished ranked In the top 20 in 2018. If he wants competition, he will choose A&M

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He's a sip referring to their schedule (however inflated those numbers were).

cevans_40 said:

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DOG XO 84 said:

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TheBro said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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If The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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Because Rice played a schedule that included the #3, 9, 12 and 14th ranked teams last year. He should just stay there.

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Hey Bro, please indicate which 4 teams that Rice played last year that ended the season ranked. I could find only 1, Stanford.

The Aggies will play 5 teams that finished ranked In the top 20 in 2018. If he wants competition, he will choose A&M

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He's a sip referring to their schedule (however inflated those numbers were).

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Did not catch that, thanks. Still, I don't believe he will face the best defenders in B12. OSU, w.Va, Tech etc. won't prepare him for NFL if he wants to play there

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cevans_40 said:

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If The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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Because Rice played a schedule that included the #3, 9, 12 and 14th ranked teams last year. He should just stay there.

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Hey Bro, please indicate which 4 teams that Rice played last year that ended the season ranked. I could find only 1, Stanford.

The Aggies will play 5 teams that finished ranked In the top 20 in 2018. If he wants competition, he will choose A&M

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He's a sip referring to their schedule (however inflated those numbers were).

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Did not catch that, thanks. Still, I don't believe he will face the best defenders in B12. OSU, w.Va, Tech etc. won't prepare him for NFL if he wants to play there

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You are correct. If he wants to play against the best, he will chose us or Auburn.

Didn't Martin play 3 different OL positions to accommodate injuries?

While he may not have been great... moving OL positions to fill holes can't be dismissed.

cevans_40 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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Because Rice played a schedule that included the #3, 9, 12 and 14th ranked teams last year. He should just stay there.

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Hey Bro, please indicate which 4 teams that Rice played last year that ended the season ranked. I could find only 1, Stanford.

The Aggies will play 5 teams that finished ranked In the top 20 in 2018. If he wants competition, he will choose A&M

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He's a sip referring to their schedule (however inflated those numbers were).

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The CFP inflates their rankings now?

Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan.

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And the #2 pick was from A&M

Way to cherry pick numbers

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan.

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And the #2 pick was from A&M

Way to cherry pick numbers

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Way to miss the point. By your logic Aggie OT should have been #1 by default of sec. You prove my point even more.

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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How many were from the Big 12?

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NFL - grouped all OL's together into one position category.

2017 OL Drafted (32)
SEC - 6 (4 tackles)
Big12 - 1 (0 tackles)

2016 OL Drafted (41)
SEC - 12 (5 tackles)
Big12 - 5 (2 tackles)

2015 OL Drafted (46)
SEC - 11 (5 tackles)
Big 12 - 4 (3 tackles)

2014 OL Drafted (45)
SEC - 11 (5 tackles)
Big 12 - 2 (1 tackle)

SEC has more tackles drafted than Big 12 OL's drafted (centers, guards and tackles) for each of the past 4 years.

SEC Tackle's drafted

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I have already addressed this. First, there are only 10 teams in Big 12. Second, the Deep South is the most fertile recruiting region in the country. The SEC is in the middle of all that. Follow the heat maps of 4 and 5 stars and it falls in line with black demographics of Urbin areas and Deep South areas of country. Like 70% of NFL rosters are blacks. The states with most blacks per capita send most nfl players per capita.

Now, certain areas are better at certain positions. Texas, QBs and skill players. Deep South almost everything... but perhaps lagging in Pro QBs. Big 10 corn fed white boy OL, etc. it's a regional thing. But overall the sec has a huge advantage with blacks per capita. No surprise most nfl players come out of sec.

Emilio Fantastico said:

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Martin had a rough year for us. I wouldn't be surprised to see him transfer out this spring.

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If he graduates this spring, it wouldn't surprise me if he joined his dad and father in law at Syracuse for his final season as a graduate transfer.

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His dad is also a coach for them now.

Can you imagine playing for both your Dad and Wife's Dad?

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Bottlehead90 said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan.

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And the #2 pick was from A&M

Way to cherry pick numbers

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Way to miss the point. By your logic Aggie OT should have been #1 by default of sec. You prove my point even more.

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Typical tsip. Always arrogant.

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DOG XO 84 said:

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TheBro said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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The SEC and Big Ten are tops for sending offensive linemen to the NFL. If he wants to test himself against the best d-lineman in college he will come to the SEC. Otherwise he could have just stayed at Rice

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Because Rice played a schedule that included the #3, 9, 12 and 14th ranked teams last year. He should just stay there.

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Hey Bro, please indicate which 4 teams that Rice played last year that ended the season ranked. I could find only 1, Stanford.

The Aggies will play 5 teams that finished ranked In the top 20 in 2018. If he wants competition, he will choose A&M

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He's a sip referring to their schedule (however inflated those numbers were).

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The CFP inflates their rankings now?

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The rankings are always hotly debated. You know, like when the Big 12 got left out of the playoff.

Wtf are you doing on the A&M football board, sip? Go back to your hole in the old rivalries board.

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akm91 said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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How many were from the Big 12?

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NFL - grouped all OL's together into one position category.

2017 OL Drafted (32)
SEC - 6 (4 tackles)
Big12 - 1 (0 tackles)

2016 OL Drafted (41)
SEC - 12 (5 tackles)
Big12 - 5 (2 tackles)

2015 OL Drafted (46)
SEC - 11 (5 tackles)
Big 12 - 4 (3 tackles)

2014 OL Drafted (45)
SEC - 11 (5 tackles)
Big 12 - 2 (1 tackle)

SEC has more tackles drafted than Big 12 OL's drafted (centers, guards and tackles) for each of the past 4 years.

SEC Tackle's drafted

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I have already addressed this. First, there are only 10 teams in Big 12. Second, the Deep South is the most fertile recruiting region in the country. The SEC is in the middle of all that. Follow the heat maps of 4 and 5 stars and it falls in line with black demographics of Urbin areas and Deep South areas of country. Like 70% of NFL rosters are blacks. The states with most blacks per capita send most nfl players per capita.

Now, certain areas are better at certain positions. Texas, QBs and skill players. Deep South almost everything... but perhaps lagging in Pro QBs. Big 10 corn fed white boy OL, etc. it's a regional thing. But overall the sec has a huge advantage with blacks per capita. No surprise most nfl players come out of sec.

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^^^Trying too hard to justifying big wtf mediocrity.

If you want to create a bunch of game film against future NFL draft picks, you go where the future NFL defensive lineman are. It doesn't matter how or why they got there, so your rant manages to both miss the point and strengthen the case for A&M or Auburn.

Wolford gone medically I'm pretty sure.

Texasteasipper said:

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akm91 said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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The # 1 pick in the entire draft in 2013 was an OT from Central Michigan. The top 2 OT's taken in the last 3 drafts were not from SEC.

If they are good enough, they will go high... period. The SEC resides in the Deep South. The most fertile recruiting region in the country. Demographics. It's that simple.

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How many were from the Big 12?

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NFL - grouped all OL's together into one position category.

2017 OL Drafted (32)
SEC - 6 (4 tackles)
Big12 - 1 (0 tackles)

2016 OL Drafted (41)
SEC - 12 (5 tackles)
Big12 - 5 (2 tackles)

2015 OL Drafted (46)
SEC - 11 (5 tackles)
Big 12 - 4 (3 tackles)

2014 OL Drafted (45)
SEC - 11 (5 tackles)
Big 12 - 2 (1 tackle)

SEC has more tackles drafted than Big 12 OL's drafted (centers, guards and tackles) for each of the past 4 years.

SEC Tackle's drafted

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I have already addressed this. First, there are only 10 teams in Big 12. Second, the Deep South is the most fertile recruiting region in the country. The SEC is in the middle of all that. Follow the heat maps of 4 and 5 stars and it falls in line with black demographics of Urbin areas and Deep South areas of country. Like 70% of NFL rosters are blacks. The states with most blacks per capita send most nfl players per capita.

Now, certain areas are better at certain positions. Texas, QBs and skill players. Deep South almost everything... but perhaps lagging in Pro QBs. Big 10 corn fed white boy OL, etc. it's a regional thing. But overall the sec has a huge advantage with blacks per capita. No surprise most nfl players come out of sec.

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Weird how the Big 12, with 40% of the schools in Texas, one of the states with the most NFL players in the country, and with at least two other schools (OU and OSU) that primarily recruit Texas, and they still can't seem to get that many draft picks.



I guess the AAC is located deeper south than the Big 12 though. That's why they had more draft picks this past year.

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Wolford gone medically I'm pretty sure.

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This is correct

If you have one season to prove you can play with the big boys, playing in the SEC is a no-brainer.

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bemer said:

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Wolford gone medically I'm pretty sure.

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This is correct

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Sorry to hear this. Thankfully there's life after football. A&M degree is worth a lot.