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I bring up the money aspect because a number of pro game posters believe it brings us more money.

Still waiting for the answer.

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Higher ticket prices and resale values, ancillary revenues, merchandise, higher TV ratings that can lead to more lucrative TV contracts, merchandise, ad revenue for game audio streams, local business sales and tax revenues, and did I mention merchandise?

Rivalry games create excitement, excitement creates demand, demand creates potential to make money. Are you truly not able to grasp this or are you trying to keep the hay from falling out of this straw man argument?

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hockeyag said:

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I bring up the money aspect because a number of pro game posters believe it brings us more money.

Still waiting for the answer.

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Higher ticket prices and resale values, ancillary revenues, merchandise, higher TV ratings that can lead to more lucrative TV contracts, merchandise, ad revenue for game audio streams, local business sales and tax revenues, and did I mention merchandise?

Rivalry games create excitement, excitement creates demand, demand creates potential to make money. Are you truly not able to grasp this or are you trying to keep the hay from falling out of this straw man argument?

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So could playing any other P5 OOC team like a say Clemson, or Miami or Norte Dame or Michigan. So if I'm saying I'd rather play teams like that on a home and home basis, explain to me how that makes me a coward? And make absolutely no mistake, those games will generate more national buzz and more revenue. Y'all just don't get why not playing them is more advantageous for us right now. And yes, if you can't see it you're a dumbass, they need us more right now and until some things change off the field, they will always try and slant things to their advantage. It's unfortunately in their dna, just remember our move to the SEC as a little hint.

I can see it, I understand it, and I really don't care. They have money, we have money, both programs will be fine. Just play the game. It would be a blast.

I hate the 'sips and have no need to be around them if it isn't necessary. Goodbye texas university.

Jacks Smirking BAS said:

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hockeyag said:

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I bring up the money aspect because a number of pro game posters believe it brings us more money.

Still waiting for the answer.

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Higher ticket prices and resale values, ancillary revenues, merchandise, higher TV ratings that can lead to more lucrative TV contracts, merchandise, ad revenue for game audio streams, local business sales and tax revenues, and did I mention merchandise?

Rivalry games create excitement, excitement creates demand, demand creates potential to make money. Are you truly not able to grasp this or are you trying to keep the hay from falling out of this straw man argument?

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We aren't going to charge a higher price for season tickets the years that we play t.u. at home. So, that takes out all but about 10,000 tickets. We already charge a premium for marquee games--this one will not produce noticeably more, and, if it takes the place of our games with schools like Clemson and UCLA, then it will be a wash.

Resale values don't do much for A&M, other than whatever commission they take on Flash seats (pocket change).

This game would be a regional game of interest--the ratings would not be anything special, particularly depending on when it was played. If we screwed over the rest of the SEC by asking them to shuffle the schedule so that we could play this on a more limited window during Thanksgiving weekend, and then play it on Thursday, or worse yet, Friday morning/afternoon, then it might get marginally better ratings, but at the expense of screwing up everyone's Thanksgiving (and with few students in town).

Local businesses would actually fare worse than having someone like Clemson come in.

In the end, it's about nostalgia, and people wanting to have bragging rights at the office water cooler, and that is it.

jesus, 9 pages?

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jesus, 9 pages?

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Something new about this tired subject has to have been said right?

My thoughts exactly twk. If we had a more competitive team- a ranked team- the money made playing L S U would be at least what would be made by playing tu. Also the game would really mean something. ..maybe playing in the SEC Championship.

I think the times have changed dramatically, especially in the last few weeks.

I look at it this way, t.u. is awful and they will continue to be awful for a couple of years. We have the opportunity to make a huge jump in national perception. If we played them next year how interested would the rest of the nation be in watching that game. People may tune in for the 1st one, but the 2nd one would lose it luster.

Now, I believe that playing Clemson. Miami. Michigan would help in creating a new narrative of our program moving forward, much more so than playing a flailing t.u.

I will say this, I absolutely hate the tips, and nothing would please me more than to curb stomp them on the field. it may help with flipping a few recruits, but with Jimbo's staff, we quit possibly will be able to flip those recruits regardless.

Who would benefit most from this game right now, with out a doubt it's t.u. and I want nothing to do with those d-bags! they can suffer an wallow in the conference they built!

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Why?

The Herman era can definitely go either way, but a rough first year says nothing damning about a coach's full tenure. Hell, Nick Saban went 6-6 his first year at Alabama and Herman has put together a pretty solid looking recruiting class. The guy's play calling during Ohio State's national title run was absolutely great, and he won at UH. Time will tell, but the quality of Herman's tenure at t.u. is an absolute unknown.

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Who would benefit most from this game right now, with out a doubt it's t.u. and I want nothing to do with those d-bags!

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This is a farce that the insecure, jilted lovers among our fanbase keep pushing.

-t.u. is still making a ton of money.
-Herman is showing that they can still recruit at a high level.
-OU has shown their is an absolute path in the BDF to get into the playoff, a path that's likely easier than the very tough SEC West.

We would hurt t.u. in the fact that we would be a ***** of a game at the end of their schedule each year. We would destroy their soft over ranking when we beat them, because we know that the media would over rank them due to their softer BDF schedule, and we would kill them in recruiting for beating them.

I know you're scared that the series would be lopsided as it was in the past, but we aren't the same program that we used to be.

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I fully support playing them again. Home and home on Tday + 1. I'm not going to subscribe to the group think on this site. It was one on the greatest rivalries in football. It was on par with Mich ND, USC ND, UGA FLA, aub ala. you guys are happy to have LSU or arky as our rivalry game. These are not rivalries.

Why do you want to throw away decades of history? Just stop.

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Why do you want to continue playing an opponent who can't compete on an even field so they stack the deck in their favor, on and off the field?
Just stop.

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hahahahaha you're so scared of tu, my god

It's like you weren't paying attention back then or you were born yesterday.

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At least they don't charge to read their site.

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Really? They can barely get people to read it for free.

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The tailgate on Wednesdays is pretty funny. You should branch out and try reading it.

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Just tried... 2/10 wnb

Good luck landing some recruits with a MAC like conference schedule sip.

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I know you're scared that the series would be lopsided as it was in the past, but we aren't the same program that we used to be.

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While I agree with most of your post, I felt the need to correct this statement. Since 1975, which is just after scholarship limits were imposed, and just before the formation of the CFA...in other words, the birth of modern college football...A&M has won more games against the horns (19) than they have against us (18).

seen fewer neutered bovines in west texas feedlots than there are on this thread.

smell is overpowering.

It is not a foregone conclusion that the rivalry game will be renewed. We will pay even less attention to them as soon as we get more SEC success.

I vote yes. Florida-Miami-FSU all play each other. USCe-Clemson play the game. Whip their asses and dominate recruiting. I don't care what anyone says. One of the best rivalries ever and made Thanksgiving weekend complete

Tuck Fexas.

Play them and crush them...
See them driven before you...
And hear the lamentations of their women...

Doubt it

These threads ALWAYS have staying power...no need to bring back the hate...it never actually left!!

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Tuck Fexas.

Play them and crush them...
See them driven before you...
And hear the lamentations of their Men...

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FIFY

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Tuck Fexas.

Play them and crush them...
See them driven before you...
And hear the lamentations of their Non-gender identified partners...

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FIFY

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FIFYF

Why in the world would we take that hit to our strength of schedule?

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Why in the world would we take that hit to our strength of schedule?

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As already pointed out, it will add to our strength of schedule.

Let's be real, over the long run the sips have a ton of resources, our state produces a ton of talent, eventually they will field decent if not elite teams.

When they do field decent teams the media will absolutely over rank them just as they always have so at the end of the season we will get to blow out a top 15 ranked t.u. team that's really just a fringe top 25 team after we've been hardened by the SEC West schedule ourselves. A big win over an over ranked team is always good for a program late in the season.

Rivalry is important?

Why do we need a thread for any time someone brings up this game? Stop obsessing over a program that hasn't been good this entire decade. They're old news, literally not worth anyone's time

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Tuck Fexas.

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And hear the lamentations of their Non-gender identified partners...

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Is that you, Dan Campbell?

This thread and playing tu

Do you remember what they said when we left? All the lies and manipulation that occurred? The ridiculous call the last time we played them to help them win the game?

It's like the spouse that keeps screaming "I want a divorce" and once you've had enough, move out and start divorce procedures they come back with "I didn't mean it." Remember how good it felt to leave the BDF and that den of snakes in Austin?

And now some of you want to go back? I suggest you call one of the abuse hotlines for help.

Wow. Did anybody look at the survey results? I say play the game, but those results almost have to be doctored...

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I fully support playing them again. Home and home on Tday + 1. I'm not going to subscribe to the group think on this site. It was one on the greatest rivalries in football. It was on par with Mich ND, USC ND, UGA FLA, aub ala. you guys are happy to have LSU or arky as our rivalry game. These are not rivalries.

Why do you want to throw away decades of history? Just stop.

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No, no it was never on par with any of those rivalries. At no point in the history of our rivalry did the outcome of the game ever determine the national champoinship. At no point in the history of our rivalry were there ever more than a handful of situations bigger than state bragging rights. I think there are less than 10 times where both teams have been ranked in the top 15 in ohr history. That is decidedly not a series with annual national impmications.

Outside of the two fanbases, the series always has been little more than a state series important to only those tied to the game. I didnt realise this until I lived out of state for several years.

They hold at .667 or so winning advantage over us, and outside of an awesome run in the mid 80's to mid 90's, we have never been much of a contender. Those are simple historical facts.

The single best thing we have done as a program os divorce ourself from worrying about what tu does or thinks. Until we care more about what A&M needs to do for the sake of A&M and,not how to one up tu, we will never truly be the flagship in the state. Too many folks like ceicel77 around whos entire life has been spent worrying about tu.

Quit worrying about tu, worry about making A&M better.

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As an Aggie, I don't see how the potential of beating tu every year doesn't get your blood pumping.

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Because right now we need to worry about the SEC west first and foremost, and honestly watching tu have a hard time with Iowa State in front of tens of people is a much better method of watching them slide further into irrelevancy.

They wont always be irrelevant, enjoy it while it is in the here and now, and dont be the guy that gives them a helping hand when they are down. They would not be so favorable to us.

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Wow. Did anybody look at the survey results? I say play the game, but those results almost have to be doctored...

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Texags has a disproportionate amount of bad Aggies who want to eschew traditions and rivalries in favor of #branding. Don't be shocked when it doesn't line up with most Aggie football fans.

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too bad they aren't our rival, they are OU's rival. You should get over it and move on like our administration has. We are in the SEC now, learn to hate Arkansas and LSU because we actually play them.

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I enjoy the Arkansas and LSU games, but they have nothing on t.u. in terms of rivalry and never will. A handful of people I knew in High School went to LSU, where as a significant portion of my graduating class and friends from High School went to t.u. Through working in Texas after college, I've met a couple of LSU folks whereas I've had a ton of coworkers/colleagues that went to t.u.

We live along side people from t.u. Going back home and talking **** with sips was always fun during Thanksgiving week and was at work after graduating.

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I am the opposite - the majority of those i interact with are LSU alums, i rarely come across any tu alumns in my day to day operations. A few t shirt fan holdovers on occasion, but not nearly as many as just a few years back.

We will never be competitive in the series with tu, but in our lifetime we could change history against both LSU (whom we do have a long history with and an emerging rivalry with) and Arkansas (whom we have a long history and rivalry with). We are less than 15 games behind LSU in the series and about 10 or 11 behink Arkansas. I would love to see us ahead of them, because it is not only attainable, but attaonable in a relatively short time frame.