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Florida plays Florida State
Georgia plays Georgia Tech
South Carolina plays Clemson
Florida plays Miami (I think this is getting started again)
Kentucky plays Louisville
BYU plays Utah
New Mexico plays New Mexico State

All of these teams play "rivals" from other conferences and it doesn't seem to hurt them. No reason this game shouldn't be played again.

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And Iowa plays Iowa St. So what? We don't need them. We've moved on.

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and actually this list is half bogus anyway

UF and FSU - didn't even start playing until 1958

UF and Miami - have only played twice since 2004 and there was a long break from the 90s to 2000's or so.

KY and Louisville - before 1994 they rarely played, like 6 times total

BYU and Utah - they have played a total of 21 times and always sporadically never regularly

NM and NM St. - so what, seriously nobody cares.

The only comparable ones are UGA and Ga. Tech and Clemson and SC to a lesser degree in history.

And to that end......

Why do you suppose UGA still plays Ga. Tech - cuz they have a 39-13 records over them since 1964.
Likewise Clemson owned SC since 1970 with a 31-15 record (only a recent 5-0 stretch by SC under the HBC made it that close).

In both cases one team dominates the other. Of course it is in the interest of the little guy to play the big guy because thats their game of the year. SC and Ga. Tech also have no natural rivals in their own conference.

We aren't the little guy any more, we don't need it. And we do have other natural rivals in the SEC with LSU and Arky and something building with Bama too.

You can't take Charlie ' s comments in a vacuum. Our AD is saying we should play again. These sure smell like trial balloons. I'm not for renewing the series now. But I can believe there is some backroom dealing going on. Hope I'm wrong.

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what does "not needing to play them" even mean. That has nothing to do with it. The fact is the two biggest schools and most storied programs in the state of Texas should be playing one another every year regardless of the sport or conference. Politics, money, "need to", "want to", shouldn't and don't matter. It's the right thing to do and it needs to be done. Sports are entertainment and any time these two schools play it's entertaining.

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Maybe when one of the other three conferences let them in and puts their asses in check! Maybe the Big 10 or PAC can slap them around and put tu through a training course about doing business with other team members. Until that happens, they can continue to turn into beef jerky and shrivel dry for all I care! I'd rather see an in state rival with TCU or Houston than those losers!

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Let them say what they want. They know and we know THERES NO WAY IN HELL they ACTUALLY want to play us again.

We would mop the floor with those scrubs.

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Given the fact that we have only won 1/3 of our games against them in history, I seriously doubt this.

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But, putting those issues aside, this seems like a bad deal for A&M for two primary reasons:
1. Texas needs this game way more than we do because the Big XII is pathetic and this gives them a huge game
2. The goal is conference and national championships (this must always remain goal). A&M already has a difficult enough schedule. Playing this game does not help our goal.

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So, is t.u. (and other BIG 10-2 schools) pathetic or are they a "difficult" game? We seem to want to schedule at least one marquee out of conference game, why not make it t.u. instead of some PAC 12 school? For a school that loves tradition, we sure seem happy to kill one of the oldest games in college football.

The game is coming. Just a matter of time. We would have likely beat their @$$es the last 4 years. It's going to be really stupid when we decide to play them again after they've had a chance to reboot.

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We need to schedule west coast games for recruiting those kids to come play in the SEC. We do not need to help tu by giving them a marquee matchup and to assuage these nostalgic feelings from some older Ags. Playing them only helps them. We are busy.

I want the game to happen. I'm sick of losing recruits to a team we could easily beat, and this game could possibly sway some of them to the good guys.

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No. We've had a pretty good team the last few years and now that we're in a rut they're going to push for this? No.

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Ah, yes, another person willing to engage them in a pissing match but not a football game.

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I've been saying since we went to the SEC that we shouldn't rule out playing them. Never happened. Why should we let them off easy now? If we happen to meet in a bowl game? fine

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And the saddest humans are the ones that would be okay with a losing season as long as we win against the horns. So sad

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Winning the rivalry game makes for a great year. 1-11 with a beating of t.u. is a good year in my book

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1-11 is an epic failure.

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College football is about rivalries. It isn't about riding the coat tails of the SEC to mediocrity. We have a history of 100+ years of this rivalry and the culture of A&M was shaped by it. It is time to renew the heart of A&M football culture and bring back the rivalry.

No thanks. Leave that in the history books and move forward without them. Benefits us in no way.

What does two-buck chuck know about anything? He can't even remember his QB's name.

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And the saddest humans are the ones that would be okay with a losing season as long as we win against the horns. So sad

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Winning the rivalry game makes for a great year. 1-11 with a beating of t.u. is a good year in my book

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1-11 is an epic failure.

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College football is about rivalries. It isn't about riding the coat tails of the SEC to mediocrity. We have a history of 100+ years of this rivalry and the culture of A&M was shaped by it. It is time to renew the heart of A&M football culture and bring back the rivalry.

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I graduated in '98. That year we lost to Florida State and Texas enroute to a Big 12 Championship. It's my contention that that season was a lot more fulfilling and exciting for fans and player alike than going 1 and 11 with a win over Texas.

But, to each his own.

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But, putting those issues aside, this seems like a bad deal for A&M for two primary reasons:
1. Texas needs this game way more than we do because the Big XII is pathetic and this gives them a huge game
2. The goal is conference and national championships (this must always remain goal). A&M already has a difficult enough schedule. Playing this game does not help our goal.

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So, is t.u. (and other BIG 10-2 schools) pathetic or are they a "difficult" game? We seem to want to schedule at least one marquee out of conference game, why not make it t.u. instead of some PAC 12 school? For a school that loves tradition, we sure seem happy to kill one of the oldest games in college football.

The game is coming. Just a matter of time. We would have likely beat their @$$es the last 4 years. It's going to be really stupid when we decide to play them again after they've had a chance to reboot.

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We need to schedule west coast games for recruiting those kids to come play in the SEC. We do not need to help tu by giving them a marquee matchup and to assuage these nostalgic feelings from some older Ags. Playing them only helps them. We are busy.

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So you are saying beating t.u. and being in the SEC wouldn't be a huge recruiting advantage? Instead of pretending we are such a superior team in Texas, it would be nice to actually prove it. Playing them would help us. Losing to them would help them. Seems like most of the people on this board are just scared of that more than anything.

What are there, three SEC/Big XII tie-in bowls? We'll meet them at some point, when they qualify for a bowl game and have the matching record that year. It's not a mathematical certainty, but consider how few Big XII teams can qualify for bowl games with the round robin schedule they have. It's going to happen at some point.

And that bowl game will be like the Arkansas/horn game in Reliant a few years back. Sold out quickly. And then the horn fans were gone quickly. (Was at that game with The Hubs. Fun night!)

No need to schedule them for a home and home series, nor ever consider making it a permanent game on the OOC. Too limiting for us.

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But, putting those issues aside, this seems like a bad deal for A&M for two primary reasons:
1. Texas needs this game way more than we do because the Big XII is pathetic and this gives them a huge game
2. The goal is conference and national championships (this must always remain goal). A&M already has a difficult enough schedule. Playing this game does not help our goal.

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I take issue with both of those points.


1) "If its not us, then who?" maybe be our fundraising slogan, but if not us, it will be someone else on their schedule. They have games scheduled with LSU, Southern Cal, Ohio State, Michigan.

(And they also have Arkansas, FWIW.)

They don't need us to have a big non-conference game or even play an SEC West team.



2) Our schedule may be pretty darn difficult already, but that doesn't seem to faze Alabama or most other programs we aspire to be, who almost all regularly schedule marquee non-conference games.

Alabama is playing Southern Cal this season. LSU is playing Wisconsin. Florida of course plays Florida State. Etc. Etc.

Step up to the plate and challenge yourself. That's what the best do.

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are you suggesting we are not scheduling challenging OOC games? Because you are wrong.

The reason we will not play is because it will not make sense schedule wise especially as long as the big xii plays nine conference games.

charlie trying to screw herman...

Schedule a game with the whorns? I'd rather have surgery...

...on my nutz

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Florida plays Florida State
Georgia plays Georgia Tech
South Carolina plays Clemson
Florida plays Miami (I think this is getting started again)
Kentucky plays Louisville
BYU plays Utah
New Mexico plays New Mexico State

All of these teams play "rivals" from other conferences and it doesn't seem to hurt them. No reason this game shouldn't be played again.

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yeah there is. We do not need it.

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Texas doesn't deserve to play us. Hth

If they come to us like Oliver Twist and ask nicely then I say we play them.




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Let them say what they want. They know and we know THERES NO WAY IN HELL they ACTUALLY want to play us again.

We would mop the floor with those scrubs.

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Given the fact that we have only won 1/3 of our games against them in history, I seriously doubt this.

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When you quote history you show your orange colors. Just something to think about for your other socks.

Charlie Strong is just fanning flames

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Winning the rivalry game makes for a great year. 1-11 with a beating of t.u. is a good year in my book

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1-11 is an epic failure.

HTH

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College football is about rivalries. It isn't about riding the coat tails of the SEC to mediocrity. We have a history of 100+ years of this rivalry and the culture of A&M was shaped by it. It is time to renew the heart of A&M football culture and bring back the rivalry.

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College football is about winning championships. All else is secondary.

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So, we've been garbage since 1998. Got it.

As an outsider, Texas A&M doesn't need Texas.

Texas A&M is on a NATIONAL stage with the SEC. Texas is mired in a fecal regional conference on a network no one watches.

Why give Texas any opportunity to thrive?

Texas A&M has their foot on the neck of a school that desperately seeks attention. Why not crush their laranyx and be done with them ? They are not worth the dried sweat off a soiled jock strap.

Roll Tide

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Charlie Strong is just fanning flames

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Baylor is in deep doo-doo. The Big XII is the laughing stock of college football with the division issues, playing a round robin schedule, and a CCG. OU has been threatening mutiny.

Of course trotting out this tripe is the reliable shiny object.

The sips have finally realized that they have created a terrible conference for themselves. Their home schedule last year was pathetic and quite a few sips cancelled their season tickets because of it. With Bayrol self destructing they are losing one of their few interesting games. Chollie has not been recruiting very well despite the rankings, their QB situation can only be described as laughable. The sips have had two losing season in a row and are probably going to have another losing season this year. They are very possibly going to fire their coach at the end of this season and will be starting over again. The sips are in a world of trouble and they know it. The sips desperately need another big game at home every other year. The sips realize that they are quickly becoming irrelevant.

We are pretty much booked up for the next 6-8 years, UCLA, Clemson and I think Notre Dame are on our OOC schedule. We also are stuck with the Arki Game in Jerry World for another 10 years of so, that is another problem that limits us from scheduling the sips. So I really do not think that we can even fit the sips in for 6-8 years more like after the Arki /Jerry World deal ends in 10 years. I would be ok discussing returning the game in 10 - 20 years, once the sips have been lost in irrelevancy for a decade or more.

In the mean time I am content to watch the sips circle the bowl.

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Florida plays Florida State
Georgia plays Georgia Tech
South Carolina plays Clemson
Florida plays Miami (I think this is getting started again)
Kentucky plays Louisville
BYU plays Utah
New Mexico plays New Mexico State

All of these teams play "rivals" from other conferences and it doesn't seem to hurt them. No reason this game shouldn't be played again.

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None of those teams has their own network, keeps 100% of the revenues from their own network and demands the right to televise the rivalry game on their own network (as well as rebroadcasts if they win) with their instate rival.

None of those teams were in a conference with their instate rival where they saw them demand built in advantages for themselves while putting their instate rival, as well as all other conference members, at a disadvantage to them in every way humanly possible.

None of those other schools single handedly destroyed 2 entire conferences purely for their own greed!

Never play the sips again!

when's the last time Pitt played Penn State? Trust me there is precedent for when schools hate each other that they don't play EVER again.

Jackie and Joe Paterno hated each other, and vowed never to play again.

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when's the last time Pitt played Penn State? Trust me there is precedent for when schools hate each other that they don't play EVER again.

Jackie and Joe Paterno hated each other, and vowed never to play again.

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Pitt & Penn State played every year until 1992.

They've played 4 times since then, last in 2000 and play this year. Penn state going to big 10 & Pitt to big east caused schedule problems

Cool story though.

It's not a rivalry. t.u. said so. OU is their rival.

Every 6 to 8 weeks tu trots this out as an issue.

Then maybe we should stop singing about them at every event.

We should never play them again except in the playoffs.

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Then maybe we should stop singing about them at every event.

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except we sang that song (which may have been written about them but symbolizes much more) at EVERY game against EVERY opponent.

So about 90+% of the time that we have sung it historically it has NOT been when playing tu.

Why does it matter now just because it is 100% of the time? - actually we have played them in other sports

It's our song, it's our tradition.